Does the Northern Lights #5 from the 90’s still exist?

Boatguy

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I grew a few of the white strains.. White Russian , White Widow and Rhino.
Rhino was my favorite based on flavor and strength.
A lot of guys were traveling to Amsterdam and we chose strains based off their recommendations .
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I just tried to pop a bunch of doc d's tpr.. No sprout. They were pretty old though
 
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It still exists!! Im growing the old school photo period version right now!! It's amazing and started smelling the 2nd week of flower!! Im about 5-6 weeks into flower now and it's a monster! Grown in a 3 gal fab pot! Go here to get real old scool genetics www.agseedco.com or google ag seed co!! Todd Mccormick has stuff from even the 70s!! Original Skunk...original Haze...NL#2 &#5 go check out his site for real old school goodies!! Peace Growmies!!
 

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TheWholeTruth

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Hairstoned84 said:
It still exists!! Im growing the old school photo period version right now!! It's amazing and started smelling the 2nd week of flower!! Im about 5-6 weeks into flower now and it's a monster! Grown in a 3 gal fab pot! Go here to get real old scool genetics www.agseedco.com or google ag seed co!! Todd Mccormick has stuff from even the 70s!! Original Skunk...original Haze...NL#2 &#5 go check out his site for real old school goodies!! Peace Growmies!!
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Tod has seeds from the 70s ? Last time i knew skunk man had given him seed he had made after 2000. And mell had given him seed he had reproduced himself afew times. His skunk#1 isnt the original version but the stabalised version with the extra afghan#1 in that goes around holland. And im not sure were the old northern lights dude got his males from to remake the original versions of nl as he had lost them till someone gave him a ibl nl#2 afew years back and magicly he had all his nl again. Dont be so quick to belive stories people make up, some people like to make lies up to sell seed and tod has been cought out on many, its why he wont come on the forums no more.
Unless you telling me tod has the original parents to make all those old strains as clones. Tell him to show you one single plant from the 70s or even 80s. Or a seed pack he was given that has some date in the 70s on it or the 80s, or maybe ask him to get any of the people who gave him seed verify they gave him a batch of seed that was made in the 70s or 80s. And what special procedure he used to germinate these old seeds, and how many wouldnt germinate or had viral issues.
 
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Week4@inCharge

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Tod has seeds from the 70s ? Last time i knew skunk man had given him seed he had made after 2000. And mell had given him seed he had reproduced himself afew times. His skunk#1 isnt the original version but the stabalised version with the extra afghan#1 in that goes around holland. And im not sure were the old northern lights dude got his males from to remake the original versions of nl as he had lost them till someone gave him a ibl nl#2 afew years back and magicly he had all his nl again. Dont be so quick to belive stories people make up, some people like to make lies up to sell seed and tod has been cought out on many, its why he wont come on the forums no more.
Unless you telling me tod has the original parents to make all those old strains as clones. Tell him to show you one single plant from the 70s or even 80s. Or a seed pack he was given that has some date in the 70s on it or the 80s, or maybe ask him to get any of the people who gave him seed verify they gave him a batch of seed that was made in the 70s or 80s. And what special procedure he used to germinate these old seeds, and how many wouldnt germinate or had viral issues.
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He never claimed he had the original parents. Just chill man.
 
Week4@inCharge

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but he has made other claims hasnt he. I didnt make the claims and mislead people ( wich isnt fare) did i. But wat do i know. Probably best to just just be upfront as then the people who spend their hard earned money dont be disapointed later.
But i can chill. Peace
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His seed has been the best I've grown to date. I don't know of any claims he's made that's misled people. His Skunk #1 grows out super healthy and is very robust. He's been around advocating for cannabis rights since who knows when and folks still shit on him. Shame.
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Week4@inCharge said:
His seed has been the best I've grown to date. I don't know of any claims he's made that's misled people. His Skunk #1 grows out super healthy and is very robust. He's been around advocating for cannabis rights since who knows when and folks still shit on him. Shame.
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Oh . Probably best i just leave it. By the way did you ever get the skunk#1 from sam , wat was the difrence. How about did you buy the skunk#1 from nevil in the late 80s, the one were most of the potent cuts were found from and kept like the 89 cheese and others held privatly. How about the nevils haze tod sells in his crosses, are you sure its nevils haze. Did you hear the story about him going to cannabis castle with his girl friend and staying the night with nevil and a seed fell out of some bud he was smoking with nevil and he kept it. Oh only problem is at the time he claims to have done that nevil had sold the castle to sensi seeds and had worked for them and left. Oh by the way youll probably find posts from tod on the forums somewere were he was posting 10 - 15 years ago ( had no haze like he claims he had and was given in 2010) were he describes the exact secenario about visting the cadtle with a gf and the seed droping out, only it was a freind of his who made that claim wen giving him a unknown cutting that tod convinently sells in crosses as nevils haze now. I can go on and on and on and list many lies and tod knows himself wat im saying is true. Is that my fault, is that me shitting on him. Or is it a case of you wasnt around so you wont know these things. I could say a whole lot more but then if you have broght things from him im sure you would rather not know as you think he is a hero. Do you think wen he got cought with hundreds of plants and went court he made his defence to help you. I will leave it at that, just remember i did nothing wrong so your pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
 
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Oh . Probably best i just leave it. By the way did you ever get the skunk#1 from sam , wat was the difrence. How about did you buy the skunk#1 from nevil in the late 80s, the one were most of the potent cuts were found from and kept like the 89 cheese and others held privatly. How about the nevils haze tod sells in his crosses, are you sure its nevils haze. Did you hear the story about him going to cannabis castle with his girl friend and staying the night with nevil and a seed fell out of some bud he was smoking with nevil and he kept it. Oh only problem is at the time he claims to have done that nevil had sold the castle to sensi seeds and had worked for them and left. Oh by the way youll probably find posts from tod on the forums somewere were he was posting 10 - 15 years ago ( had no haze like he claims he had and was given in 2010) were he describes the exact secenario about visting the cadtle with a gf and the seed droping out, only it was a freind of his who made that claim wen giving him a unknown cutting that tod convinently sells in crosses as nevils haze now. I can go on and on and on and list many lies and tod knows himself wat im saying is true. Is that my fault, is that me shitting on him. Or is it a case of you wasnt around so you wont know these things. I could say a whole lot more but then if you have broght things from him im sure you would rather not know as you think he is a hero. Do you think wen he got cought with hundreds of plants and went court he made his defence to help you. I will leave it at that, just remember i did nothing wrong so your pointing the finger in the wrong direction.
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You have a lot on your chest don't you. Just because your having a bad day doesn't mean I have too.
 
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Week4@inCharge said:
You have a lot on your chest don't you. Just because your having a bad day doesn't mean I have too.
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Dude im not asking you to have a bad day. I havent said nothing to you personaly, nor blamed you for anything. I just told the truth, or maybe you want me to go along with people being decived or lie. Im not here putting up proof ect am i cus it aint that important too me cuz id never buy anything from him. You accused me of doing someone wrong or implied it and implied i should be ashamed. Im not the one who tells people bs to take their money. What do i gain, nothing. And it makes no sense for me to openly lie about someone as well know as that in the comunity in publicly unless im telling the truth. You can go and ask tod yourself, ask him did he go cannabis castle like he claimes and stay over night with nevil. Ask him is the nevils haze in the crosses he sells to people like you who trust his word is it actualy nevils haze or if he knows exacly what it is. Like i said what ive put here is just a small bit. I dont get wound up over him or the internet as i can switch it off wen i want and he can take nothing from me.
Thers no point arguing with me over things you dont know 100% yourself as it just means your arguing blind. So it probably fare we both give this a rest and move on. My pont at the start was alot of the things he sells arnt exactly what your being told they are and thats it. Is that ok.
Im not telling you to like him or not.
 
Week4@inCharge

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TheWholeTruth said:
Dude im not asking you to have a bad day. I havent said nothing to you personaly, nor blamed you for anything. I just told the truth, or maybe you want me to go along with people being decived or lie. Im not here putting up proof ect am i cus it aint that important too me cuz id never buy anything from him. You accused me of doing someone wrong or implied it. Im not the one who tells people bs to take their money. What do i gain, nothing. And it makes no sense for me to openly lie about someone as well know as that in the comunity in publicly unless im telling the truth. You can go and ask tod yourself, ask him did he go cannabis castle like he claimes and stay over night with nevil. Ask him is the nevils haze in the crosses he sells to people like you who trust his word is it actualy nevils haze or if he knows exacly what it is. Like i said what ive put here is just a small bit. I dont get wound up over him or the internet as i can switch it off wen i want and he can take nothing from me.
Thers no point arguing with me over things you dont know 100% yourself as it just means your arguing blind. So it probably fare we both give this a rest and move on. My pont at the start was alot of the things he sells arnt exactly what your being told they are and thats it. Is that ok.
Im not telling you to like him or not.
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I'll read what you laid out, thanks. I'm just trying to watch the game right now. I think I know what your trying to say.
 
Week4@inCharge

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TheWholeTruth said:
By the way did you ever get the skunk#1 from sam
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No, that would've been an experience for sure

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from nevil in the late 80s
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None from him in the 80's ,
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Did you hear the story about him going to cannabis castle with his girl friend and staying the night with nevil and a seed fell out of some bud he was smoking with nevil and he kept it.
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No never heard of that one but anyone who was there would probably have kept a seed or two, are you kidding me? Hell I'd be looking for seeds that might have fallen on the floor, volunteering to help clean...lol, can't be hard on someone for keeping a seed. I don't know man, I do remember hearing a story like Nevil selling or creating Sensi Seeds, all a fog really but the way I see it, Todd was there. Is it possible he did grab some seeds? How he got them might be controversial but he still possibly might have gotten a hold of some seeds. He was there. Yes I am new here so I'll refrain from adding more to this, (true lie) thanks for your input. I just hear there's no way he can have it, I don't hear that from Mel or Sam... Just from everyone else except the OG guys who gave him the seeds ..isn't that weird?
 
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Dude im not asking you to have a bad day. I havent said nothing to you personaly, nor blamed you for anything. I just told the truth, or maybe you want me to go along with people being decived or lie. Im not here putting up proof ect am i cus it aint that important too me cuz id never buy anything from him. You accused me of doing someone wrong or implied it and implied i should be ashamed. Im not the one who tells people bs to take their money. What do i gain, nothing. And it makes no sense for me to openly lie about someone as well know as that in the comunity in publicly unless im telling the truth. You can go and ask tod yourself, ask him did he go cannabis castle like he claimes and stay over night with nevil. Ask him is the nevils haze in the crosses he sells to people like you who trust his word is it actualy nevils haze or if he knows exacly what it is. Like i said what ive put here is just a small bit. I dont get wound up over him or the internet as i can switch it off wen i want and he can take nothing from me.
Thers no point arguing with me over things you dont know 100% yourself as it just means your arguing blind. So it probably fare we both give this a rest and move on. My pont at the start was alot of the things he sells arnt exactly what your being told they are and thats it. Is that ok.
Im not telling you to like him or not.
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Not worth arguing about it is right. And funny I don't see anything listed on his site as Nevils Haze, unless I missed it, (but I've only heard him say his Haze was from Sam.. ) but I just looked and I didn't see any Nevils Haze. There is a Nevils Haze on Shantibaba site, is that worth grabbing? (It's half time right now, rooting for the Mavs) So yeah, I'm probably just ignorant about all this, I wasn't on the scene back then.
 
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Week4@inCharge said:
No, that would've been an experience for sure


None from him in the 80's ,

No never heard of that one but anyone who was there would probably have kept a seed or two, are you kidding me? Hell I'd be looking for seeds that might have fallen on the floor, volunteering to help clean...lol, can't be hard on someone for keeping a seed. I don't know man, I do remember hearing a story like Nevil selling or creating Sensi Seeds, all a fog really but the way I see it, Todd was there. Is it possible he did grab some seeds? How he got them might be controversial but he still possibly might have gotten a hold of some seeds. He was there. Yes I am new here so I'll refrain from adding more to this, (true lie) thanks for your input. I just hear there's no way he can have it, I don't hear that from Mel or Sam... Just from everyone else except the OG guys who gave him the seeds ..isn't that weird?
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Nah the true story is ben dronkers bought the then the seedbank and the cannabis castle and his seed stash from nevil because he had him over a barrel pretty much nevil was facing jail and needed the money so he sold up to ben sensi seeds was borne out of that this why kees of sssc shut down for all those years too cos they seen the shit nevil was getting and didnt want that
 
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Dude tod didnt even go to amsterdam till gone 93. This is were people refuse to belive the truth. He wasnt ther with his gf in 93 and didnt spend the night at the castle. He went ther with jack herer and that was the first time he ever went to dam. Nevil wàsnt sleeping in the castle at that point cus sensi owned it all he did was work ther in the day. And at the 93 cannabis cup jack got to visit, nevil wouldnt come out infront of ppl especialy americans as he still had to watch out that no one grassed on were he was so usa could come and kidnap him and extradite him. The whole story about tod and nevil is all fabricated. It was a story someone told to tod to try to sell some unknown cutting. Later tod tried to make out it was him. Tod left a trail all over the internet confirming this. Dude i told you your arguing for someone you have no clue about and strains you dont realy know about and you wasnt around for to know the history. Tod had strains listed one is caled original nevils haze on haze go look thats just one.

(ON Haze x Original Haze) x Northern Lights #2 Seeds
This is a classic combination of some truly outstanding genetics. Starting with a Nevil's Haze female cutting that I had been growing since 2004 , I desired more of an emphasis on the Haze, so back in 2013, I back crossed it to an Original Haze male that smelled incredible and had extremely vigorous growth.

Here i didnt even have to look hard to find what he cals origina nevil haze ( on hz). And know he also didnt have sams haze in 2013 he was only given it not long befor he opende his seed company.
By the way skunkman came to holland in 1984. By the time 1988 came he had already inbred and stabalised the skunk#1 from what it originaly was so what you got from tod as skunk#1 is no special than other by then blander versions. Its not the older untouched version. Sory . What is the new norther lights ? Is it the old northern lights or some new version? Is certanly not the original versions is it.
 
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