Does Fox Farm Suck?

The reason I ask is because I feed my plants at 1.2 EC and the runoff comes out at 3.5 to 5.0 EC. I called my grow store and they told me they are having the same problem. thoughts??

HI quit using fox farm. My buddy and I are growing the same strain. Last go around I used fox farm while he used bone/blood meal, osmacot, and alaskan fish. His results were way better than mine. This go around I'm using the stuff he uses and I see a big change already.

There are different types of FF soils, which one are you referring to?

I use Ocean Forest from germing through harvest and no issues so far, only user errors

i use froxfarm organic and for my first grow with just bagseed mids it was pretty dank shit.

I've had the same problem as the OP with Happy Frog. I also had a poor experience with spidermites from my first bag of OF. I switched to Roots Organic. BUT..... i can't say that OF is a poor product. just had bad experiences with it.
If it's happening with Happy Frog there's gotta be a problem somewhere along the assembly line. I encountered it with two different bags.
I also use FF liquid trio, but don't care for the bloom formula.

I use Pro mix soil the orange and white label. Big bloom, tiger bloom, grow big.

Pro mix is probably not as strong as the soil you guys are using and my EC from my runoff is out of control

Some growers swear by fox farm, but others tend to hate it. Depends, but it has gotten pretty good reviews.

Any Ideas on why my EC is so high from the runoff? I'm using pro mix mycorise

Does any one check there EC from there runoff??

ataxia said:

I've had the same problem as the OP with Happy Frog. I also had a poor experience with spidermites from my first bag of OF. I switched to Roots Organic. BUT..... i can't say that OF is a poor product. just had bad experiences with it.
If it's happening with Happy Frog there's gotta be a problem somewhere along the assembly line. I encountered it with two different bags.
I also use FF liquid trio, but don't care for the bloom formula.

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I just opened 8 bags of Roots Organic and 6 had fungus gnats!! nothing is safe. The best thing to do is buy your soil two weeks before you need it and pour Azamax in the bags, Ive done this with FF-OF but haven't needed to with RO till now.

cannabis420420 said:

i use fox farm it seems to be great stuff so far never had a problem with them

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Have you checked your EC or PPM from your runoff?

My biggest problem with them is that they use more bark as filler every year they come out. But they really have a complex blend of naturally derived fertilizer and ph control. Its almost worth it to buy your own perlite and screen the soil for the bark before you put in indoors for a few months. You'll be shocked with all twigs and bark left over.

i use oceanforest soil and used to use the ff nutes. they don't "suck", i just find i get better results with the stuff i use now, but i still use the soil. i never even thought to check the ec of the runoff as i'm not sure what could be learned from it. i'm assuming that the solution is leaching stuff out of the soil a bit causing your ec to rise. the older your plants are the more stuff has been dumped in the soil. just because of this thread though i am going to check the ec of my runoff. i'd bet i get similar results to you. my blooms were just fed today so it will be a few days, but if i remember to do it i'll get back to you.

i've always had real good outcomes using fox farm products but i've learned i get just as good results using miracle gro products for a fraction of the price. i have no idea about the spike in numbers you are having. why are you measuring the run off, having a problem or out of curiousity?

i bet you nailed the awnser to his question.

Total Head said:

i'm assuming that the solution is leaching stuff out of the soil a bit causing your ec to rise. the older your plants are the more stuff has been dumped in the soil.

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i flushed a seedling that popped about 3 weeks ago. it's in a 5 gallon bag and i have not fed it any nutrients yet. The EC came out at 6.0

from my understanding the pro mix should only be at .5 to .7 ec

i wanted to do this with the blooms because my veg tent has only been fed so many times, but i was curious. the lowest my meter goes for ec is .2, and fresh tap doesn't even register. i mixed up my nutes and they read .6. the plants were really dry so i ran a gallon of plain water through first (3 gal pot) which most of it just ran right out the bottom of the dry soil. the runoff after the plain water read .6, same as the nutes. so then i ran the nutes through. ec went to 1.4, just over double, and this was after running the plain water through. my plants are fine so my conclusion is that this is normal, and i don't really think there is much to be learned from it except for a really vague idea of what might be in the soil. if someone thinks otherwise i'm all ears. or eyes i guess.