Does feminizing a seed change it's DNA?

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Mr. Diamond

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I'm curious for breeding purposes. Is a feminized seed an exact copy/clone of the mother? If so or if not. Which method is the best to use to create a stable copy of the mother?


Thanks guys.

Mr. Diamond
I love seeds.
 
Dank You, More Please

Dank You, More Please

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A feminized seed is a seed, it can become any of the possibilities of the genetics of that plant, so no it's not going to be guaranteed a copy of the mother, just a guaranteed female of that strain. There are still different phenos that can come out.

Only way to get an exact copy is to take a clone.
 
hornedfrog2000

hornedfrog2000

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No, there actually are clone seeds but sending them would probably be extremely illegal basically like sending actual plants. The feds would stop that in a second.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Those are tissue cultures, not clone seeds. Although I guess you could call them that.

Anyway it doesn't change anything about the plant being feminized. You only get the female half of the genetics though when you feminize. So it's basically heavy inbreeding.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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technically any breeding changes the "DNA" but it will be limited to the genetics of the parent or parents, unless of course there is a mutation.
 
hornedfrog2000

hornedfrog2000

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The dna is still coming from a lineage of elite genetics. Inbred or not is kind of schematics. Tit tat you could argue it to death.Its not inbred. And female seeds are NOT generally selfed, or "inbred". They are normally fertilized by pollen of the same strain, but diferent mother by spraying colloidal silver on a bud until it throws pollen. ( I've made female seeds before).

Also, yes they are technically tissue cultures, but if they ever make it to market i would bank on them being called " clone seeds" http://www.strainhunters.com/forums/topic/4315-clone-seeds/

My advice would be not to start threads asking questions because you just get a lot of people who have never grown, or are fairly new to the game responding and trolling. Find a good discussion thread like hellraisers, homebrewer, etc. People who know generally aren't coming in threads like these because you get dumb fucks trolling. Just an fyi... Read.
 
Uncle Pirate

Uncle Pirate

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Some breeders take phenotype A and reverse it and pollinate phenotype B of the same strain to get fems (sannie's jack). Some breeders reverse a plant and hit a clone off the same mother to make S1's. Cali Connection sells a lot of selfed beans of the elite clones. Most of the time, when crossing two different strains, a breeder will pick one preferred pheno to reverse and another preferred pheno of a different strain to accept the pollen. The plant chosen to reverse is completely morphed into a male, not a herm (common misconception). Why would anyone call tissue culture, clone seeds? Is GHS trying to coin the term or something?
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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hornedfrog2000 said:
The dna is still coming from a lineage of elite genetics. Inbred or not is kind of schematics. Tit tat you could argue it to death.Its not inbred. And female seeds are NOT generally selfed, or "inbred". They are normally fertilized by pollen of the same strain, but diferent mother by spraying colloidal silver on a bud until it throws pollen. ( I've made female seeds before).

Also, yes they are technically tissue cultures, but if they ever make it to market i would bank on them being called " clone seeds" http://www.strainhunters.com/forums/topic/4315-clone-seeds/

My advice would be not to start threads asking questions because you just get a lot of people who have never grown, or are fairly new to the game responding and trolling. Find a good discussion thread like hellraisers, homebrewer, etc. People who know generally aren't coming in threads like these because you get dumb fucks trolling. Just an fyi... Read.
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Noun1.inbreeding - the act of mating closely related individuals

When someone breeds with themselves or brother/sister, that's as inbred as you can possibly get. You might want to look up some basic definitions.

Ironically though, the last bit of advice isn't that bad. Except for your insinuation that we're trolling him and don't have a clue what we're talking about (ironic).

 
sorethumb

sorethumb

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i really dont understand the methods of seed companys how do you get seed's reproduction how can you get feminized seeds only i had a hemie give my fem's seeds does that make them both or females i dont understand this fem seed thing .
 
hornedfrog2000

hornedfrog2000

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OGEvilgenius said:
Noun1.inbreeding - the act of mating closely related individuals

When someone breeds with themselves or brother/sister, that's as inbred as you can possibly get. You might want to look up some basic definitions.

Ironically though, the last bit of advice isn't that bad. Except for your insinuation that we're trolling him and don't have a clue what we're talking about (ironic).

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Exactly. You can argue it to death. People breed " brother sister" plants all the time. Nobody calls it inbred. Schematics, and arguing for the sake of it. It's dumb. The questiom has been answered. I'm not saying everyone in this post is trolling, but the shit gets old. I'm not here to argue specific definitions because this isn't english/debate class or whatever. I get the vibe a lot of people around here have very limited growimg experience but quite a bit of
talking experience.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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inbreeding in plants is a completely different thing from inbreeding in vertebrates
many plants self pollinate
 
sorethumb

sorethumb

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hornedfrog2000 said:
Exactly. You can argue it to death. People breed " brother sister" plants all the time. Nobody calls it inbred. Schematics, and arguing for the sake of it. It's dumb. The questiom has been answered. I'm not saying everyone in this post is trolling, but the shit gets old. I'm not here to argue specific definitions because this isn't english/debate class or whatever. I get the vibe a lot of people around here have very limited growimg experience but quite a bit of
talking experience.
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i like the part about ppl having limited growing experience. and quite a bit of talking experience .lmao
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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It is actually inbreeding..

I don't know however if it results in a higher proportion of genetic mutations like inbreeding of humans does. There is a reason that banging your sister is illegal, and it's not because she is super fat, wears pink sweat pants, and shops at wallmart in a mobility scooter.
 
Dice Clay

Dice Clay

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anytime I have ever made feminized seeds, I force a couple of male pollen sacs and pollinate the plant with it... If self pollination is not considered inbreeding...I don't know what is... just another pissing contest on RIU with someone who has just the tiniest semblance of a clue therefore feels he is the end all expert.
 
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