Doctors that'll sign for a minor(my son).

Yessicat

Yessicat

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Jackal69 said:
have you tried acupuncture for the headaches, I would at lest try a physiotherapist ... it may be the accident or sports injuries could have some underlying injury. I know when I would get I debilitating headache around my physio time... he popped couple needles in and the rush of relief blasted over my skull.... acupuncture is wicked if you can find someone who can do it right.
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I've actually looked into that! We went for acupuncture and a professional massage earlier this summer. I mean, it felt amazing for me, but he said he didn't get any long-term relief.

leaffan said:
I find it amazing that a doctor prescribed marijuana for a 14 year old for panic attacks.
Not trying to be a prick. I've just never heard of this before for a 14 year old. I talk to a lot of doctors, so this is why I am so interested.
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Yeah. I mean, I haven't talked to a whole ton of doctors regarding this, so I don't truly know how rare it is. I think it's a matter of presenting your case and the illness being severe enough in the first place. For example, my son's been admitted to a psychiatric ward for his anxiety, and so was the 14y/o boy. I think that it's really a matter of proving the severity of your case.

But then again, I truly am not experienced in this.
 
WHATFG

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Now I'm confused..

Yessicat said:
The kid, however, supposedly suffered from panic attacks quite frequently. I'm getting this from his parents, who I'm not quite "good friends" with, but we've had them over for dinner a few times. If Dr. Abbasi still accepted patients, I wouldn't have to post this thread :)
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Is this your son or foster kid?...?
 
Yessicat

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WHATFG said:
Now I'm confused..



Is this your son or foster kid?...?
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There's two kids. One, not mine, who got a signature from Dr. Abbasi. And the other, who is in fact my son, who can't get a signature because Dr. Abbasi doesn't do MMR anymore. I'm not related to the kid who got the signature at all. (Sorry for the confusion).
 
Jackal69

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Yessicat said:
He saw a physiotherapist initially after the injury, and nothing came of it. We stuck with her for a few months but he decided that he didn't see a change.
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don't have to say or nothing but did he have issues before the "injury", just wondering?
 
Hazydat620

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leaffan said:
I know Israel is doing an amazing job with cannabis research, but I thought they only had 15,000 odd patients that were prescribed? Any source for the 100,000 people reference?

"Israel is so far thought to have permitted cannabis to be prescribed to somewhere between 80 and 100 children, most of them cancer patients."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.578170
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Sorry 90,000 off, I smoke a lot, for many different reason,read it in a high times while on the shitter smoking a fatty. See what happens when you actually open up your eyes. Just a few posts ago you stated that you had never heard of a child being prescribed cannabis for anything but epilepsy, but just now you say there is 80- 100 prescribed for cancer reasons. What is it?
 
Jackal69

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I personally would see a sports medicine physiotherapist that knows his shit for the injury side of things(whether it's a car accident or whatever), you may have to go through a couple to find someone that knows what the hell their doing. As you have said they have not diagnosed anything in the brain, maybe they aren't looking in the right spot? I dunno but no Doctor is equal to another there are real shitty types and really good types. I know when ya take pain out of the situation life is way easier. Good luck in what ever ya do for yer kid
 
leaffan

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Hazydat620 said:
Sorry 90,000 off, I smoke a lot, for many different reason,read it in a high times while on the shitter smoking a fatty. See what happens when you actually open up your eyes. Just a few posts ago you stated that you had never heard of a child being prescribed cannabis for anything but epilepsy, but just now you say there is 80- 100 prescribed for cancer reasons. What is it?[/QUOT
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You don`t have to be sorry, no worries.
I guess I should have said in Canada I have never heard of a prescription for anything but epilepsy for children.
( Is this why you say my views are ignorant?)

I think Canada should allow it for all cancer patients regardless of age!
Mental health issues I view differently.
I`m just trying to learn. Talking with as many doctors and patients as possible.
 
Yessicat

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Jackal69 said:
I personally would see a sports medicine physiotherapist that knows his shit for the injury side of things(whether it's a car accident or whatever), you may have to go through a couple to find someone that knows what the hell their doing. As you have said they have not diagnosed anything in the brain, maybe they aren't looking in the right spot? I dunno but no Doctor is equal to another there are real shitty types and really good types. I know when ya take pain out of the situation life is way easier. Good luck in what ever ya do for yer kid
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Thanks. I think I'll be needing some luck after reading all this, haha.
 
Yessicat

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leaffan said:
You don`t have to be sorry, no worries.
I guess I should have said in Canada I have never heard of a prescription for anything but epilepsy for children.
( Is this why you say my views are ignorant?)

I think Canada should allow it for all cancer patients regardless of age!
Mental health issues I view differently.
I`m just trying to learn. Talking with as many doctors and patients as possible.
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I'm definitely for cancer patients receiving MMJ, but I fail to see why mental health issues shouldn't be viewed in a similar light. I get why they should be viewed differently, but I think the outcome, or the prescription, should more or less be treated the same way.

Coming from my experiences with depression, it sucks. I don't know what my son is feeling, but when I was depressed, I found it hard to get out of bed in the morning. The simplest of tasks required way too much effort. I don't have experience with anxiety, but if his depression is caused by anxiety, I'm going to do my best to tackle his depression at the root.
 
tip top toker

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Yessicat said:
I'm definitely for cancer patients receiving MMJ, but I fail to see why mental health issues shouldn't be viewed in a similar light. I get why they should be viewed differently, but I think the outcome, or the prescription, should more or less be treated the same way.

Coming from my experiences with depression, it sucks. I don't know what my son is feeling, but when I was depressed, I found it hard to get out of bed in the morning. The simplest of tasks required way too much effort. I don't have experience with anxiety, but if his depression is caused by anxiety, I'm going to do my best to tackle his depression at the root.
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Then you need to find out what he is feeling! Do not just give him cannabis because he's just stating "depression". But i believe you need to approach it from a specific angle. You say he is forthcoming and honest about things with you, but at the end of the day most young kids will bend a truth if it could benefit them (especially in this kind of manner, given that he's tried it and seemingly "got on well" with it). Maybe from an angle of you are going to talk to some doctors out away away, and need to know exactly what kind of level of depression he has, what the risks are, basically i'm saying you need to found out the level of depression without him using it to turn a tide in his favour, such as if he wants cannabis more than he needs it, he might exagerate a bit.

Heck, it is also honestly worth baring in mind that kids of that kind of age will often go from depression to self harming because of the benefits of the added attention. Do not rule out that concept, it happens. You need to find out exactly where his head is at.

I say all this from someone who's crap at the whole depression game though, i tried to kill myself countless times between 18 and 20, and i never once won.
 
Yessicat

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tip top toker said:
Then you need to find out what he is feeling! Do not just give him cannabis because he's just stating "depression". But i believe you need to approach it from a specific angle. You say he is forthcoming and honest about things with you, but at the end of the day most young kids will bend a truth if it could benefit them (especially in this kind of manner, given that he's tried it and seemingly "got on well" with it). Maybe from an angle of you are going to talk to some doctors out away away, and need to know exactly what kind of level of depression he has, what the risks are, basically i'm saying you need to found out the level of depression without him using it to turn a tide in his favour, such as if he wants cannabis more than he needs it, he might exagerate a bit.

Heck, it is also honestly worth baring in mind that kids of that kind of age will often go from depression to self harming because of the benefits of the added attention. Do not rule out that concept, it happens. You need to find out exactly where his head is at.

I say all this from someone who's crap at the whole depression game though, i tried to kill myself countless times between 18 and 20, and i never once won.
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Oh believe me, I'm not just taking everything out of his mouth as the truth. He's very open and tells me what he's feeling, his symptoms, etc, but the reason I say I don't know how he feels is just because I really don't know what's true and what's not.
Of course I believe him when he tells me things, but I don't think any 15y/o tells their mother the complete truth about things, especially emotions and the like.
 
Hazydat620

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leaffan said:
You don`t have to be sorry, no worries.
I guess I should have said in Canada I have never heard of a prescription for anything but epilepsy for children.
( Is this why you say my views are ignorant?)

I think Canada should allow it for all cancer patients regardless of age!
Mental health issues I view differently.
I`m just trying to learn. Talking with as many doctors and patients as possible.
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Are you talking with doctors who already have the same view toward cannabis as you? What kind of doctor are you btw? Have you ever conducted tests of your own or prescribed cannabis to a patient besides for cancer? Have you ever had a patient ask for cannabis for a condition and turn them down because you thought it wouldn't help them, why? sorry for the form of the Q's if they com off wrong I apologize, It's my way of trying to figure where you are coming from.
 
Brewery

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Yessicat said:
I'm definitely for cancer patients receiving MMJ, but I fail to see why mental health issues shouldn't be viewed in a similar light. I get why they should be viewed differently, but I think the outcome, or the prescription, should more or less be treated the same way.

Coming from my experiences with depression, it sucks. I don't know what my son is feeling, but when I was depressed, I found it hard to get out of bed in the morning. The simplest of tasks required way too much effort. I don't have experience with anxiety, but if his depression is caused by anxiety, I'm going to do my best to tackle his depression at the root.
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In my experience if you want to deal with the depression and other mental illnesses "at the root" you need to do psychotherapy. Cannabis will not "cure" it. Sure it will take away some of the underlying symptoms but it will not treat a depressed person. Get him a therapist he is comfortable with and let him build a relationship with the therapist. Think years not months. I really think cannabis is "barking up the wrong tree".

Good luck whatever you do and please keep this forum updated.

And lastly, kudos for being a compassionate and caring parent! Keep talking to your son and helping him through this.

Brewery.
 
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