Do You Believe In Ghosts?

mouthmeetsoap said:

Who would have thought, rollitup could have their own psychic network with all these mediums coming out in this thread.

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I don't prefer myself to be a psychic. Never have and never will claim to be one.

However.. I do strongly believe that if (for me example) someone happens to be extra sensitive to energy spikes and other sensations that come from energy spikes? They should listen to those extra senses. Just my opinion though.

I believe that I'm just sensitive to energy fluctuations.. and the night I felt all the sorry, grief.. mixed with almost a little anger?? Yeah, it fits. It's how those children probably feel right now. It's the energy their spirits are giving off.. that I'm sensitive to.

I mean, I've personally never actually seen a true "spirit" or "ghost". Most people tend to think that a ghost is like seeing an invisible person.. or a transparent human. Or an all white floating energy. Whatever the case might be.. I believe that when you pass, you do indeed enter the afterlife. Whatever it might be.. I believe that we all (our souls) do indeed go somewhere.. to some type of 'afterlife'.

I mean I have seen some VERY indisputable pictures/videos that would blow your mind. Some of them that I've seen in the past, were actually captured on police car dash-cameras. So its not like they're going to lie about something like that. Highly unlikely.

But yeah, there's some type of 'afterlife' for each one of us.. as we exit this reality - we then enter another one.

peace

This was no projection from memory's. This was the spirit of a lady dieing not more than 3 feet from me telling her granddaughter how happy she was with her and how she was always her favorite, and on and on.

euthanatos93420 said:

Pecause the dead are dead. You are seeing projections of the family's memory.

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mouthmeetsoap said:

If anything were to happen to GIs comp, you'd be in deep shit. This thread was a good read until your feelings were hurt and you started just plain ol' being rude to people. You are getting defensive out of simply not being able to defend yourself, at least not as well as karri0n and Golden Ganja.

Sidis was very very intelligent. Like an IQ of 300 I believe. He was also an atheist.

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Heh, there's always got to be someone to ruin it for the rest of us. I'm use to it though.

Everyone needs to just chill out and maybe smoke a bowl if ya got one. I know I do..

Lets forget about the immature kids.. and continue on with this interesting thread, shall we?



peace.

bobbypyn said:

OHHHHH wait just one second my friend! in order for my terroristic threats to have any validity what so fucking ever, you have to admit that they are based in an ability to act upon them! NOW we're getting somewhere. and relax, Werner; I'm just weary of taunts from those who refuse to explore possibilities. do you really blame me? seriously?

for the record, I would never attack in such a manner unless it was warranted, cuz the people involved wouldn't support such acts... but shutting up a smartass with a bunch of inconveniences IS on the menu. I didn't threaten him; just his electronics. he'll live without em if this should come to fruition. Actually i was trying to set up some practice for our little experiment... not to harm your gear, mind you, just to let you get a peek behind the veil.

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We live in a world that values a free marketplace of ideas & the right to express them. In this environment we are bound to hit upon offensive concepts. It is impossible to never be offended. Everything you say or do offends someone, somewhere on some level. Any clothes you might wear offends someone for some reason, and if you take them all off you offend even more. The only way to grantee that no one is ever offended is to never let anyone say or do anything. Furthermore, being offended does not in any way justify causing harm to others, or silencing them. The very idea offends me.

bobbypyn said:

Hey, Guy Incognito; will you please post a few more times so my friends can practice their homing skills and fry your comp for me? come on badass... let's play! my buddies would LOVE to make your acquaintance. real talk. you opened the door by disrespecting my beliefs; game on bitch.... game fucking ON. so go ahead and talk your shit now homey... please.

GG, stay out of this: I'm sick of this one's bullshit. my friends don't care for his attitude either. they wanna play now...

LMAO: when GI has to go to the library to get online (cuz his computer doesn't work) to beg me to make them stop fucking with him, we'll see who needs to be institutionalized. indeed we will.

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Yes believe me or I will scare you into believing with violence. Why would I believe in your magic powers if my computer gets infected/fried? Wouldn't a much much (millions of orders of magnitude) more likely explanation be a non magical computer hack? Or just that a component failed and fried? Computers get hacked and fried every day and has nothing to do with the supernatural. I have had computers fry. Maybe I pissed of a phony psychic? Your beliefs (the ones presented in this thread) do not deserve any respect.

GoldenGanja13 said:

This was no projection from memory's. This was the spirit of a lady dieing not more than 3 feet from me telling her granddaughter how happy she was with her and how she was always her favorite, and on and on.

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Eh, what now? lol - I wasn't disagreeing with you on anything. I do indeed believe that spirits are all around us.. I've seen too much credible but unexplainable evidence to not believe in it. Plus, when I was younger.. I had a 'near death' experience. Happened when I was 10 years old - I've posted the story around here somewhere if your interested.. most people aren't though.. which I don't blame them.

But anyhow, yeah I was clinically dead for 3 minutes the first time. The second time my heart stopped for just over 3 minutes.. and I'm telling you man, what I told my parents after I recovered.. doesn't make sense to most people. I actually told them that I remembered meeting my great grandpa/grandma.. not only that! - but I also described them, as how I remembered seeing them. I even talked to them.. can't remember what we spoke about (which I hate.. I wish I could).

The thing to my experience is that I never got the chance to meet my great grandma/grandpa of course.. because I was not born into this world just yet of course. But yet, when I told my parents about the experience, I described them to the freaking 'T', as to how their hair was fixed and what they were wearing when I spoke/seen them. Freaked my parents out because I described them.. as they were when they past away and were buried.

I know, I know.. most of you can and probably will call my a nutcase, but I'm not a nutcase and I know that so that's all that matters. It's great for me, because I know that there is something after this life on Earth.. just not 100% sure exactly what it is.

Each and every one of us.. will eventually one day know.

peace.

Heisenberg said:

So you support terrorism as a method of defending your beliefs? You have just removed any sort of substance your opinion had left. For the record I don't agree with calling anyone mentally retarded outside of a clinical context. I believe even the smartest person can still fall victim to tricks and mistakes if they are not careful; it is completely understandable. What is not understandable is making threats in an attempt to stifle another's right to express their opinion. How would you feel if we simply silenced you for expressing your opinion and promised harm? Would that strike you as being fair? Do you believe in setting a good example by following the standards you've set for others?

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I said mentally ill, not mentally retarded; though I may have used that terminology somewhere in this thread, and I still think it's applicable. Have you read what they are posting? They have gone way beyond merely falling victim to some mistake or illusion. They are absolutely delusional.

Goldenganja never saw the things she is claiming, nor can she do the things she claims she can. No one can. I realize this, and you realize this. She is either a liar or she really believes the stuff she is saying, in which case I don't know what you would call it other than being mentally ill. It is certainly not mentally healthy. The same applies to bobbypyn.

uggghh.. its useless. I'm done with this thread.


buh bye now.

cannabisguru said:

I mean I have seen some VERY indisputable pictures/videos that would blow your mind. Some of them that I've seen in the past, were actually captured on police car dash-cameras. So its not like they're going to lie about something like that. Highly unlikely.

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Hrmm well I would want something to be disputable, and in fact be disputed and ideally hold up under this scrutiny. Maybe this is what you meant by indisputable, but it sounds like your saying no critical examination ever took place (because it was deemed unneeded). I also don't in general think paranormal claims are simply a matter of lying or telling the truth, but also mistakes and bias and many other subtitles.

OPERATOR: "911, what's your emergency?"
Guy:"Um... yeah, I need to report a terroristic threat."
OPERATOR: "Ok, sir. What was the nature of this threat?"
Guy: "This dude online said he was gonna sic his ghost friends on me and mess up my computer."
OPERATOR: *click*

GMAFB!!!!!

do you really not see the dichotomy here? in order to be offended by my "threats" you will have to give credence to my ability to follow through on them. otherwise, I should be as offensive to you as a homeless person saying he's going to nuke DC. I should in fact appear as pathetic, but you see it as sinister. we are making progress with you, Werner.

bobbypyn said:

OPERATOR: "911, what's your emergency?"
Guy:"Um... yeah, I need to report a terroristic threat."
OPERATOR: "Ok, sir. What was the nature of this threat?"
Guy: "This dude online said he was gonna sic his ghost friends on me and mess up my computer."
OPERATOR: *click*

GMAFB!!!!!

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Illustrating the ridiculousness of your threat doesn't mean it wasn't a threat.

bobbypyn said:

that's unfortunate. Ok Karrion... have you ever met JR in the tubes? if you have, you KNOW who I'm talkin about when I say JR. How about Keenan? Blaize? Luke? any of those names ring a bell, blindwalker? if so, ask them who I am; for I am known there by many. If all of this is greek to you (which I rather suspect it is cuz I think you're what they call a "sewer rat" in the tubes; an interloper that JR & co. are charged with clearing outta the tubes when ya'll chew your way in,) next time you go there, tell em you're talkin to Luke's dad online. see what they tell you. smartass.

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Dude. Tubes? wtf are you on about? You must be a pretty worthless piece of shit(literally) if your underworld looks like a sewer. More likely is that you're delusional, and even more likely is that you're a troll.

JR? Keenan? Blaize? You're naming characters from Dallas, Nickelodeon, and Streets of Rage. Entities in the underworld, if they have names, are either native/ tribal names, are concepts, or have names such as "Bear" or "Eagle". If they were ever people, they have generally shed their earthly identity long ago. The exception is when you are explicitly journeying as part of a soul retrieval ritual and you are bringing "fragments" back to your client/patient.

You sound like someone I knew in High school - one day, there was an episode of Xena where she met some kind of spiritual/martial arts teacher and learned lessons from him. The very next day, this person came into school and said they met a new spirit guide on the astral plane, who was an old asian martial artist and phiosophical teacher, who had the same name and appearance as the character on Xena. He pulled shit like this all the time. In this instance, however, several other kids in our group had also seen that episode the day before. He insisted that he had some explanation as to why it wasn't bullshit - something like the writers of the show accidentally channeling the same spirit guide before writing them into the episode.

There are techniques out there, if you're willing to actually read and do work(doubtful) for differentiating between whether you are actually journeying or just imagining shit. I recommend you look into them.

karri0n said:

Dude. Tubes? wtf are you on about? You must be a pretty worthless piece of shit(literally) if your underworld looks like a sewer. More likely is that you're delusional, and even more likely is that you're a troll.

JR? Keenan? Blaize? You're naming characters from Dallas, Nickelodeon, and Streets of Rage. Entities in the underworld, if they have names, are either native/ tribal names, are concepts, or have names such as "Bear" or "Eagle". If they were ever people, they have generally shed their earthly identity long ago. The exception is when you are explicitly journeying as part of a soul retrieval ritual and you are bringing "fragments" back to your client/patient.

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you are sadly mistaken, broseph. and you have no clue WTF youre talking about. My dead wife's name is Rita Standing Deer; grand daughter to Paul Standing Deer, Shaman to the Eastern Band Cherokee Nation. fuck you.

Blaize Blouin. Keenan Milton. and fuck you again.

guy incognito said:

I said mentally ill, not mentally retarded; though I may have used that terminology somewhere in this thread, and I still think it's applicable. Have you read what they are posting? They have gone way beyond merely falling victim to some mistake or illusion. They are absolutely delusional.

Goldenganja never saw the things she is claiming, nor can she do the things she claims she can. No one can. I realize this, and you realize this. She is either a liar or she really believes the stuff she is saying, in which case I don't know what you would call it other than being mentally ill. It is certainly not mentally healthy. The same applies to bobbypyn.

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Oh you certainly have a point. I suppose things like hyperactive pattern recognition do qualify as abnormal. I am not a doctor so I am not sure the exact classifications. But yes, the more GG explains the more it seems as if her beliefs could be the result of or at least exasperated by an illness pattern.

What I meant to state for the record is, I don't think someone believing in ghosts is anymore delusional than someone who sees god in a taco, or experiences sleep paralysis and interprets it as a close encounter, and these things often happen to people who otherwise exhibit no signs of mental disability. I didn't mean it as a direct retort to your comment.

bobbypyn said:

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Yes, Cherokee shamans are WELL known for sharing their secrets with white men.

bobbypyn said:

OPERATOR: "911, what's your emergency?"
Guy:"Um... yeah, I need to report a terroristic threat."
OPERATOR: "Ok, sir. What was the nature of this threat?"
Guy: "This dude online said he was gonna sic his ghost friends on me and mess up my computer."
OPERATOR: *click*

GMAFB!!!!!

do you really not see the dichotomy here? in order to be offended by my "threats" you will have to give credence to my ability to follow through on them. otherwise, I should be as offensive to you as a homeless person saying he's going to nuke DC. I should in fact appear as pathetic, but you see it as sinister. we are making progress with you, Werner.

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What I see is someone using scare tactics, attempting to instill fear, in order to silence an opinion. Whether those tactics were grounded in reality has no bearing on the intent.

karri0n said:

Yes, Cherokee shamans are WELL known for sharing their secrets with white men.

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who said he shared anything with me!?! I wasn't treated well by them, to say the least. But the fact remains of who my wife is. she is the secret. I'm possessed of zero abilities myself. and for the record, I earned the respect I have been given by her people now.

And Paul adopted a white child and raised him as his own. You are ignorant.


and once they found out I'm part Cherokee, they let me make it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ik09xFT6mk

ya know what....? I'm over this. you assholes don't deserve to live in my reality. have fun with yours. I'm gonna go skate now. later.

I believe in ghost,demons, supernatural stuff but some of the stuff they talk about is fake. Some is not fake.
i love ghost hunting myself

PeacefulKid1992 said:

I believe in ghost,demons, supernatural stuff but some of the stuff they talk about is fake. Some is not fake.
i love ghost hunting myself

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I like the idea of ghost hunting too, in spite of the cheesy practice television glamorizes. I wonder, how do you distinguish between what is fake and what is real? I like to closely examine my criteria for what I deem is real, and also make room for something simply being unexplained, as opposed to fake or real. I like to set a consistent standard for going from unexplained to explained by supernatural, and so far, that standard has not been met.


For anyone who is interested, I found this podcast enjoyable.

From the site

Joe Nickell explains why he investigates the paranormal, as opposed to merely pronouncing his skepticism of it. He talks about his training as a detective and why it was formative, along with his background in magic. He explains why field experience is so important to scientific paranormal investigation. He distinguishes between skepticism and debunking, and what results from each approach. He argues that the existence of the paranormal is not the only question to answer while conducting paranormal investigations. He explains why he continues investigating subjects he has already looked numerous times, such as ghosts, lake monsters and miracle claims, and why he spends time on the paranormal as opposed to other important topics. He talks about whether the supernatural claim that God exists should be a focus of the paranormal investigator. And he comments on the new trend of skeptical paranormal investigation groups starting up in cities throughout North America.

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