TreeTrunkBuds
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First of all, I try to be a spiritual person, but I am first and foremost a skeptic and a cynic. There is a ton of shit out there that people will peddle as enlightenment and spirituality and its nothing but complete bullshit.
That being said, of the hallucinogens that I've tried, every single one has at one time or another magnified my focus on human interaction a thousand fold. I'm talking, being able to carry a full conversation with someone with very minimal actual words being spoken, just being so on the same level you just understand.
I smoked salvia with a couple of new room mates, and when we were in the depths of the trip, i could feel the way that they perceived me, almost in a physical way. I could feel their 'auras' for lack of a better word, emanating from them. one had positive vibes whose waves reached out and overlapped my own. with the other room mate, it felt like there was a barrier between us. it was fairly early on in the year, and i had an open mind about becoming friends, but i could feel this tension he was giving off. i also had the distinct, specific feeling like both of these kids understood what i was realizing. not feeling the same exact thing, but realizing that i was feeling it. just like that, after we came down from the trip, the more negative room mate started acting much kinder, like he knew.
On acid once, I was with a group of people and it had been a while into the trip and we were sitting in a circle on the lawn. soon, i was noticing that everyone's movements had become extremely repetitive, each person utilizing only a handful of movements over and over as we conversed. One person's movements spurred another person's, and in turn signalled the next person's, in an endless chain reaction. even when i was aware of this and wanted to stop, i was helpless and carried on through the actions compulsively. it was just a spiral of human will affecting human will.
i'm pretty sure this is a universal thing after giving it much thought, that people do tripping or not (definitely more while tripping), and that every person shares this aspect with varying degrees of awareness, and i would definitely appreciate either confirmation or negation of this idea. back to the point - even though the movements were the same every time, somehow the meanings changed. the only way i can describe it is that the person put different feeling into it each time, into the same motions, and i could empathize with them to feel the different emotions they put out each time.
my point is - human communication existed before language. somehow i feel like language is a convenient way to think about all communication, but it makes it easy to disregard the rest of it. i've had conversations in complete giberish with a friend about absolutely nothing while tripping, and yet i find i can still convey emotion and perceive it just as easily as if we were using english. I believe that most people dont believe in telepathy, simply because their ears for it have been trained shut by society. once you take a hallucinogen, and it sets the stage for your mind to entertain such abstract thoughts, you realize that some just might be true.
one last example, i was tripping with my girlfriend and we were really close at the time. for most of the trip, we were touching each other, getting really in tune. whenever i left the room she was in, even if either of us was talking to someone else, i could still feel her, and i could feel her feeling me as well. later on when we went to bed, we were still tripping. when i touched her hip, it would trigger her rubbing her foot on my leg, which would trigger a series of movements which eventually led back to me touching her hip again, which would trigger her rubbing her foot on my leg. it was very loving, but gradually felt very autonomous, which made me wonder if i was going crazy, being forced to do these seemingly arbitrary motions over and over again. and then - wait a minute - i realized that i had been doing this for my whole life, that everyone has, and that everyone had always been crazy only i had just become aware of it. haha, boy that was a tough pill to swallow. this call-and-response set of touching and feeling that my girlfriend and i were stuck in, was just one big looping trap. if i left one of her carresses without my own reply, i could immediately feel her disapointment and sadness, and she would quite literally repeat the same motion in reverse, as if taking it back. if she would stop, i did the exact same, retracing my motions in reverse without even thinking about it. it was all just so seemless and natural, like another language that i dont remember any of anymore. anyway looking back on that trip (bad trip, only because of how i took that one realization) it made me realize that was probably an unhealthy relationship, both of us far too attention starved.
sorry for all the tangents, a lot of stuff i'm just thinking about for the first time in years that i want to get out of my head, but i feel like it all connects somehow. have psychedelics helped any of you realize something that feels like "telepathy"? (i really hate using that word, it makes it sound all mumbo-jumbo)
That being said, of the hallucinogens that I've tried, every single one has at one time or another magnified my focus on human interaction a thousand fold. I'm talking, being able to carry a full conversation with someone with very minimal actual words being spoken, just being so on the same level you just understand.
I smoked salvia with a couple of new room mates, and when we were in the depths of the trip, i could feel the way that they perceived me, almost in a physical way. I could feel their 'auras' for lack of a better word, emanating from them. one had positive vibes whose waves reached out and overlapped my own. with the other room mate, it felt like there was a barrier between us. it was fairly early on in the year, and i had an open mind about becoming friends, but i could feel this tension he was giving off. i also had the distinct, specific feeling like both of these kids understood what i was realizing. not feeling the same exact thing, but realizing that i was feeling it. just like that, after we came down from the trip, the more negative room mate started acting much kinder, like he knew.
On acid once, I was with a group of people and it had been a while into the trip and we were sitting in a circle on the lawn. soon, i was noticing that everyone's movements had become extremely repetitive, each person utilizing only a handful of movements over and over as we conversed. One person's movements spurred another person's, and in turn signalled the next person's, in an endless chain reaction. even when i was aware of this and wanted to stop, i was helpless and carried on through the actions compulsively. it was just a spiral of human will affecting human will.
i'm pretty sure this is a universal thing after giving it much thought, that people do tripping or not (definitely more while tripping), and that every person shares this aspect with varying degrees of awareness, and i would definitely appreciate either confirmation or negation of this idea. back to the point - even though the movements were the same every time, somehow the meanings changed. the only way i can describe it is that the person put different feeling into it each time, into the same motions, and i could empathize with them to feel the different emotions they put out each time.
my point is - human communication existed before language. somehow i feel like language is a convenient way to think about all communication, but it makes it easy to disregard the rest of it. i've had conversations in complete giberish with a friend about absolutely nothing while tripping, and yet i find i can still convey emotion and perceive it just as easily as if we were using english. I believe that most people dont believe in telepathy, simply because their ears for it have been trained shut by society. once you take a hallucinogen, and it sets the stage for your mind to entertain such abstract thoughts, you realize that some just might be true.
one last example, i was tripping with my girlfriend and we were really close at the time. for most of the trip, we were touching each other, getting really in tune. whenever i left the room she was in, even if either of us was talking to someone else, i could still feel her, and i could feel her feeling me as well. later on when we went to bed, we were still tripping. when i touched her hip, it would trigger her rubbing her foot on my leg, which would trigger a series of movements which eventually led back to me touching her hip again, which would trigger her rubbing her foot on my leg. it was very loving, but gradually felt very autonomous, which made me wonder if i was going crazy, being forced to do these seemingly arbitrary motions over and over again. and then - wait a minute - i realized that i had been doing this for my whole life, that everyone has, and that everyone had always been crazy only i had just become aware of it. haha, boy that was a tough pill to swallow. this call-and-response set of touching and feeling that my girlfriend and i were stuck in, was just one big looping trap. if i left one of her carresses without my own reply, i could immediately feel her disapointment and sadness, and she would quite literally repeat the same motion in reverse, as if taking it back. if she would stop, i did the exact same, retracing my motions in reverse without even thinking about it. it was all just so seemless and natural, like another language that i dont remember any of anymore. anyway looking back on that trip (bad trip, only because of how i took that one realization) it made me realize that was probably an unhealthy relationship, both of us far too attention starved.
sorry for all the tangents, a lot of stuff i'm just thinking about for the first time in years that i want to get out of my head, but i feel like it all connects somehow. have psychedelics helped any of you realize something that feels like "telepathy"? (i really hate using that word, it makes it sound all mumbo-jumbo)
