DIY E-Nail

been reading up on these.. i was wondering if anyone knew if i could use the power inlet/switch to control the power to the PID to read the temp of the nail and then instal another rocker switch on the front to turn on the actual coil? the initial wiring diagram shows 2 switches so i am assuming that is what it is for? any info would be much appreciated and thanks budbro for this badass thread!
 

budbro18

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been reading up on these.. i was wondering if anyone knew if i could use the power inlet/switch to control the power to the PID to read the temp of the nail and then instal another rocker switch on the front to turn on the actual coil? the initial wiring diagram shows 2 switches so i am assuming that is what it is for? any info would be much appreciated and thanks budbro for this badass thread!
Yes you can thats what some have but i like sleek and simple.
 
thanks for the clarification man.. any idea about the coils from that site and if they come with the XLR male attached and if it comes with a XLR female port or would that be separate?? sorry about all the questions im just trying to get my drawings and supplies together and didnt want to order to many parts or have to wait a week because i thought everything was included. thanks again
 

Fadedawg

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Lookin good man! If i were you though id fuck with Auber. 5-10 bucks more than the shitty mypins and they have amazing autotune. As well as constant Ai so if you tune it in a house thats 75 then take it to a friends who keeps his house chilly in the 60s it will compensate for ambient temp and sense the difference in fluctuations and adjust accordingly.

On top of that theyre a US company and have a very nice warranty. Best PID for an Enail on the market today. IMHO

auber SSRs are good as fuck too! same warranty and company.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll check out the Auber. I notice it has been promoted as a better choice on this thread and others, but I needed to build one exactly like the one in So Cal which wouldn't work, where the parts were owner furnished.

I also just happen to have one more Mypin lying around, from picking up 15 of them off E-bay, for various beta projects. I only paid $16 apiece for them, but alas it was $26/each, by the time they got through porking me on shipment. So far all of mine worked, but the one in So Cal is seemingly busted, soooo thus far it is about a 6% failure rate.

No idea what was done to it, before it was turned over to WW to finish, so that number is tongue in cheek. Things get dropped and shit happens...................

What failure rate have you seen with the Auber?
 

Fadedawg

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Well its only a 125-200w coil max. So not that much. About as much as a few old incandescent bulbs. But most of that is on start up.

Unfortunately i dont have a killawatt but i would assume it would be like an electric oven. Larger amount at the beginning then small amounts once it gets flowin.

Maybe someone who has one on here would be kind enough to hook it up to their killawatt if they have it.

I know people keep em on 24/7 almost and dont see a noticeable increase in their electric bill.
In these parts, 200W 24/7 would cost about $14.00/Mo.
 

budbro18

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Thats not bad itd be around 10 per month for me.

But heres the thing it only draws that 200w if that on start up. Once its up there it coasts into the PID wave pulsing a much lower amount of power through it. Im not sure exactly how much but thats the whole point of the PID algorithm is to fluctuate the current to hold a stable temp.

You probably know way more about that then me so i dont know why im sayin it haha.

Ive wanted to make my own vac oven of sorts because they seem easy ish. We have a ton of 304 stainless sheet metal and the abilities to make a solid one. Mount the heating element connect to the pid/ssr find a good place to put the thermocouple. Id probably make it like a giant vac pot but square. with the lid on top.

Back to the subject. I havent put it through its paces but it seemed to be solid. Ive tested my unit thoroughly but from what ive seen its the coil that fucks up first then depending on which SSR you get it can possibly fail if its too small. I like everything about the functionality of it. Easy to work with. Some people like the double row temp for set temp and current temp but i like it. Im also gonna start ordering them with different color front displays. haha.

The AI is perfect. I just uploaded a video for it and ill post it shortly.
 

budbro18

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AI is artificial intelligence.

as for the fuses i got 6 amp fuses from radio shack because they didnt have the 10 or 15 amp ones.

My coils will be removable the first few i made werent.
 

LiquidJunglist

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Also like your idea on a Vac Oven. If you make one do one that is smaller for some guys like me who don't have room for a big lab but are down to make a small pro level lab. I've seen some small ones but there old and used. Wouldn't trust them.

I've though of making one myself but wanted to do the enail first. I'm going call Auber tomorrow about just going over to pick my PID and SRR up. I live less then 20 mins from Alpharetta I happen to have grown up there so it would be be nice to see the changes. If not PID and SSR will be ordered.

BudBro did you start a website yet for your enails?
 

budbro18

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Thanks guys cant wait to get this shit finished! The website is slowly comin along. Still waitin on all the supplies to come in and bulk up on enails before i start it up. Trying to figure out how to do this pre order shit. I dont like deadlines and i dont like taking money and not immediately shipping out what was paid for.

Its in full swing over here lifes been a little crazy lately. So many things goin on its hard to keep track.


I have this thread and the enails to make, the nails im getting made, my glass guy workin on drop downs and quartz domeless enail nails, website to design and code and purchase domain name. Thats just my website life.

Then we get to growing and i have my 2x4 veg and 4x4 flower to tend to, trying to upgrade to a 4x8 or 5x10 as we speak, so doubling production, tryin to get super soil ready for this years outdoor season, getting all the pots and clones ready for that.

THEN! I have my hash making life. Ordering butane and vac chambers and blasting tubes, talking to closed loop makers, parting out the costs of making it myself, drawing designs, doing calculations to make sure everything will work (im bad at math) finding welders, making a DIY fume hood with explosion proof fans. And last but not least turning the product into killa shatter.

So thats strictly my weed life. On top of my regular life and working ive managed to learn/think while sleeping hahaha

Ive got a ton on my plate right now but im hustlin to get it done for you guys and everyone here. Gonna be doing a big thread on my BHO tek soon and hopefully not too long after that ill be able to make one using my closed loop! Give insights on vac time/temp as well as which products to use and which to avoid. Im not sponsored by any of those people i just find good quality shit and stick with it until i am unsatisfied.

WEEEEW that was long winded. Sorry guys. But yeah ill be staying active on here as much as i can so if theres a slight delay in my response figure im doing on of the above hahaha.

Really glad this thread took off and people are finding it useful. The reddit one was so fucking annoying to find information.

Like i said before im probably gonna make a new one to post just my pictures and videos so its nice and stream lined and use this thread for discussion.

Ok thats the end. Hope to talk to you guys soon. BACK ON THE GRIND.
 
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