DIY Closet DWC Grow - First grow ever

Big day for the girls. They are no longer on a diet. Before we wanted them nice and healthy, now we want them to fatten up a little (you guys know you really like the big girls). They got a dose of the FloraNectar bud sweetener, and man I think it is going to be nice.

So to make a long story even longer I'll tell you my nutrient saga (ok it's not that long a story). I always say my tank is 30 Gallons. That is not totally accurate. The tub itself holds 34 before I drilled holes. I think I got the 30 gallons because when I first put the little plants in, when they were 'clones' (as if they grew out of being clones) I think I put in 30 gallons. However since then I just say 30 gal. And in my head it is 30 gal. But really after the first week, after they started showing roots there has ever only been 28 gal. in there. Plus now that the roots are taking up around 3 gallons of space the fill line gets reached with only about 25 gallons added. So.... I have been giving my girls over the max nutes the whole time, I knew this, but didn't really care because they never got burned and figured I couldn't hurt anything, just waste some nutes.

Well... now that I'm preparing to add the gravity next rez change I wanted to get all my levels dialed into reality. So when I calculated the mix on the Dutch Master site I entered 25 gal instead of 30 gal. Filled with that level and got the ppm that they told me to expect. Added my sweetener and ph'd. So before, the past few weeks, I had been running at 1900-2000 ppm. Now I am at around 1600, and that is with the sweetener.

Next week when I add the gravity I am going to give nutes at 30% of this level I am running right now. I'm confused as to he additives. I am guessing I'll lower those levels too, but not sure which ones.

I think I will cut the Potash, Silica, and Max like the regular nutes. I am going to keep the water conditioner at the full strength. I don't think that will be a problem.

I did a lot of tucking, pulling and arranging tonight. It was seriously a lot of work. It's really sad, I'm having to pull tiny little flowers I was hopeful for, but they are in total shade now. This screen thing is tough.

Snapped some good pics tonight for you. Enjoy.

(last pic - big boy: you better watch out)

drynroasty said:

added FloraNectar last Sunday and saw some great physical results already.

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The journal is once again back to maximum potential. Like 'x-men:2' the team has been assembled once again.

Did you guys see that movie, I never watched the first x-men (can't comment), but the second movie I think they called it X-2 was bad ass. I watched it like 5 times. And I'm not one to watch too many movies (mostly just good ones, I don't like wasting my time, haha, at least not on movies).

Hey roast, not to assault you with questions, but.... where you at with your growing right now, you vegging some new stuff?

And more importantly, do you know if the poppies are blooming yet? I was planning on a trip this weekend to see the fields, you live out that way right?

Thanks for stopping by.

For people like me who have trouble converting days into weeks. We are pretty much through 4 weeks of flower here. And yes it easy enough to convert days to weeks, but it's not easy in your head (or my head at least). So things are really starting to smell nice around here. Whenever I do anything with the plants my hands get sticky and they smell like crazy. Man, the smell is so intense on my fingers and I'm not even halfway through. Not like I'm looking forward to it, but it will be interesting to see how much things things really do smell at full tilt. They are half Skunk.

As for the co2, I think is making a difference. Hard to tell, but I think it is. As of now I have it at the back of one of the little fans underneath. I have the fan pointed up slightly to hit the bottom of the leaves and the other fan circulates the air good I think.

Plants like the new lower level of nutrients, that might be helping them do nicely as well. What do you guys thing, too much nutes maybe hindering things a little in the past? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know much about that kinda thing.

I still need to pick up a dehumidifier.

Some of the shoots in the back and along the side are developing really nicely. Letting the sides grow up like that is really working out. There are two shoots in particular where all the budsites look like they have connected with eachother, already. I'm hoping every branch growing vertically though the screen will end up as one bud each, hopefully there won't be too many popcorn buds. Not that popcorn is bad.

Damn I'm getting excited. I remember what the feeling was like when you are a kid waiting for Christmas. I want time to move faster.

Sorry no pics tonight.

Guys, I'm putting this one on you too. I don't know where the hell I got 8 weeks for my Hindu Skunks. I looked tonight and everywhere says 9 weeks (except one site said 10-12, I think they are smoking more than pot).

So I guess I am going to put off the gravity for another week, and I think I will need to buy another bottle of sweetener before it is over.

I'm not complaining so much, it is nice that they will have another week to get fatter. To think they have 5 more weeks to get bigger and stinkier.... Man, this stuff really is going to stink by then. I'm just bummed because this puts 'christmas' that much further away.

And I was just kidding, I don't expect anyone to know the flowering times of my strain. You guys are just supposed to give me tips on my electrical work, haha.

just like all ladys, as soon as they settle in, set up home,

they want to gobble up the sweets, and get fat on you.

I went as saw them last weekend.

I spoke to the ranger and he said this year wasn't too eventful, but last year was. I've never seen those fields before, but I did drive up the 101 to Santa Cruz and saw a vast expanse of fields of flowers that will never be matched (I hope so though). So to me, it wasn't all that spectacular, but they are true beauty.

I tried taking photos of the edge of the road where the longest stretch was seen, but there were too many cars passing by and I didn't want them in front of me on the drive home (mostly old with HUGE dark sunglasses spells SLOW and DANGEROUS), so I left before the shot cleared.

Remind me to tell you about the passing on the wrong side of the road and my current 4 kush plants (3 purple and 1 Bubba)

You and everyeone else should check the pictures in my album... just go to my profile and it's call "where I live".

There are shots of the poppies last year... it was something.

Thanks for the info.

And yeah thor... those ladies are all the same, haha.

Here are two videos... not the best quality.

First one is beginning week 2.

Second is end week 4.

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run the debugger and fix that code.

drynroasty said:

run the debugger and fix that code.

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I just went back to where you posted the bike videos and copied what was written there.

[youtube] then the video code ie. wazySKimGFI [ then close the bracket ]

pretty easy really.

Where's the debugger anyhow?

OMG! I am jealous, you are right. Not bcuzz the pineapple flavor, I will just smoke a bowl and eat some pineapple for that, I'm jealous because you have done your setup the best it could be done for a first attempt. I am thoroughly stoked for you because I didn't see anything I would've done differently, except not cutting a hole thru the door...lol. Great job! "the Force is strong in this one..."

I am anxious to see how much you pull from those sexy dames, maybe you might have begun a new technique for growing under a screen.

Dude! The vids are not too long. I had to back away from the keyboard while watching the second one becasue the slobber would make the keys stick, again. Looks like you have some skillz with the media; on the next vid, jog FForward thru the dollying to your subject, I think it will look great. Is the white widow delilah? lol Good choice fer musik.

As I mentioned, I have been super busy with school and work and schtuff. I put 4 gurls in box on the 25th of March and things look swell. I am taking my time and learning the plant this time so's to become my own guru of purple kush.

Also, I'm playing with light height and which bulbs to run to fill screen optimally. For example:

After putting the 3 prettiest gurls in the box (I chose from my cut clones and bought a Bubba clone), I hit them with both MH and HPS 500Watts until I saw a bunch of new shoots emerging, I then raised the light to max height and ran MH only to make them stretch a bit. After 3/8" stretch (3/8' is just a random guess for my size screen, so I'll let you know how it went), I then lowered the lights to orig. position and ran only MH. I realized that I only needed to run the MH when lights are in low position, because with both, the plant grows wide and not tall.

Great job!

There is no debugger...lol I was fuckin with ya. Well, I actually thought you had written code (HTML) as a text file and uploaded it. When I first saw that you posted videos, they didn't appear/load properly and all i saw was the HTML script. They look fine now. I must've landed on your thread while you were uploading.

I will go see your vids. I wasn't impressed after seeing the fields off the 101. The ranger said that last year was awesome.

Thanks for the kind words. You and hulk have been my right and left hand men on the thing so you deserve some credit.

Three things I think helped the most:

1. Time spent in preparation (research + construction/ shopping)
2. Time spent working with plants.
3. Time spent on this grow journal, as people can help with suggestions or offer advice.

I read (well skimmed through) on grow journal, I think it was 65 pages long. I remember counting about 10 posts that were longer than 1 line. I don't know how much the OP or anyone else got out of that journal. I'm not trying to diss anyone, but just like the scrog I think a good journal reaps good rewards.

Thanks for the support.

SCroG is the best way to get max output per plant per square Ft, as far as i can tell. it is almost impossable to break 1.25 Oz a Sq Ft, so, what we are looking to hit, (me and my son) is 6 to 8 Oz per plant. i will veg it, 8 to 12 weeks, deliver 24 to him, a month, 30" tall (i got an exemption for 45 plants, my wife gets 50)

then, he will Screen ity, to a 2 Ftx2Ft square, should take 2 weeks. 4 plants in a 4x4 space, one 1000W HPS on a 4x4 area, 6 1000's per flower room, be nice to hit 10 Lb on 24 plants indoors. will keep you posted. my son does outdoors in summer, so i will veg his, starting in july, and by Oct, i will test this thery. if i ship 24 a month to him......

well, you get the pic!

Hey jig,

Its been awhile since i looked through your journal the whole way through.

All i can say is wow, great job man. Your screen is so lush I'm really hoping to have similar results with the new vertical method.

I had two suggestions for you if you don't mind. Sorry its so late in your grow, but i think it will help you.

First haha love the cool tube man i remember you said you had the same one. i think i actually prefer the curve of it over the fancy straight tubes everyone else has. Well anyway i found that the ends of the glass tube are around 5 inches in diameter and that a 5 in to 4 inch reducer duct from homedepot fit it perfectly. I put a strip of weather stripping around the lip of the glass tube and then squeezed the reducer on then attached the 4 inch ducting. It was such a perfect fit.

Second is your DIY co2. Very good, however i see some problems with its efficiency. Now I'm not knocking what you've done its very good, but i have a tremendous amount of experience with them in the aquarium world. The majority of my growing experience is actually from growing aquatic plants in my aquarium, which is actually starting to change. During that time i injected co2 into the aquarium water using 4 diy co2 reactors made from 2 liter bottles.

All that said i posted on a different thread a detailed explanation of my methods, tips, and experiences with using these co2 reactors. I am linking you to it below. I hope this info helps you and i will continue to stop by, props on the screen a true master in the making.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/112167-hydroponics-question-answer-newgrowth-style-44.html#post2283552

aww now videos cant get any better man i think you have done everthing with this grow and being your first one, you are going to have many fun filled years of growing to come. I saw in the video you said you dont even use your thermostat ? whys that?

I would guess that he has that fan running full time.

Yea thats what i was thinking but wanted to make sure pluss hes pulling air from inside so the temp inside does not change to much. I was going to hook a thermostat to my canfan that pulls air from outside witch durning the summer yea the fans not going to shutoff to much unless it rains or the night temp gets below 65. But in the winter when its really cold i hope its goign to help keep the temp right by shutting it off. I just was making sure that the thermostat was good and not a piece of junk before i go buy another one.

Second is your DIY co2. Very good, however i see some problems with its efficiency.

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smoote1987, what is it that he is doing that could be done better??? Please share.

Hulk. I see what you are saying. The intake for his is the ambient temp of the house, whatever the thermostat is set at, but if it were coming from outdoors he would have to regulate. I understand.

For me, vegging during the summer will be my issue (with heat) if I plan to go 24hr lights on, unless I leave the AC on also. I'll be saving enough money that would otherwise be going up in smoke, so I'm not worried.

drynroasty said:

smoote1987, what is it that he is doing that could be done better??? Please share.

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I linked to my post on another thread that states my reasons but if you would prefer that i post the same info here i would definitely do it as long as Jig doesn't mind. It's a long post and it might mess up his threads flow and i would hate to do that unless we specifically wanted the info here.