DillWeed's 2009 fall grow journal: BLUEBERRY, VIOLATOR KUSH, SENSI STAR and more...

theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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if you don't understand the relativity of the references then you should really look into them. There is a hell of a lot more there than just this or that. These are important issues that anyone should be aware of.

The legality of Cannabis is often used in educational practices to point out more specific and practical understandings of the United States Constitution and other legal documents, it is a reference point for experts on the Constitution, the law, and our government, used to point out issues such as "the law as it is written, and the law as it is practiced" which plays crucial roles in your every day life that you probably aren't even aware of (as most of the country seems to not be). And since you are already so educate, please tell me why the quoted phrase is quoted.
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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I hate to interject myself into this mess, but TLD how about you put up or shut up? Right now you come off as one of those people who think we dont actually have to pay our income taxes.

Forget about having people do their own research and come to their own conclusions, how about you make a thread, present your evidence and let people decide then if its really illegal or legal. Thats what this forum is here for right? To educate people.

Most of us wouldn't have a clue where to start to research this our own. Having someone who's already done the leg work would benefit all of us.
 
poplars

poplars

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theloadeddragon said:
if you don't understand the relativity of the references then you should really look into them. There is a hell of a lot more there than just this or that. These are important issues that anyone should be aware of.

The legality of Cannabis is often used in educational practices to point out more specific and practical understandings of the United States Constitution and other legal documents, it is a reference point for experts on the Constitution, the law, and our government, used to point out issues such as "the law as it is written, and the law as it is practiced" which plays crucial roles in your every day life that you probably aren't even aware of (as most of the country seems to not be). And since you are already so educate, please tell me why the quoted phrase is quoted.
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I'm sorry but it just offends me that you assume I have no idea about all these things simply because I don't take the time to state the proof that I do? or what?

man I'm totally done here. and I mean done with this argument. I'm always reading, always learning more.

all I was asking for was a straight up answer, you couldn't give me one, and I'm pretty sure you're not going to even if I keep asking. so I'm done here.
 
aa614

aa614

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I'm sorry, DillWeed, for using your grow journal as a place to have this discussion.



To theloadeddragon:

First of all, this is a public website, so I didn't speak out of turn. Second of all, I didn't misinterpret anything. I may not have interpreted the statement as you intended, but that does not mean that it was misinterpreted. It simply means that you chose the wrong words to convey the message that you were trying to get across. My opinion, though, is that I interpreted your statement in the same manner that everyone else who read it did--accurately--and that you are upset because my comment exposed your post for what it is; very paradoxical (I think this word is more accurate than oxymoronic). Given the context and tone of your comment, it implies that you are worried that StickyMango can somehow affect you negatively in a way related to the cultivation of marijuana. The fact that you posted this comment in DillWeed's journal (a thread viewed by numerous people daily) on RIU (a website known for having information about growing marijuana) makes it paradoxical. Now you are upset because what you wrote gave many people the impression that you are foolish. Every post that you've put up since the "I really wish he didn't come back..." post is contadictory to it. The goal of the subsequent posts is merely to look like less of a fool, or to "save face". If what you do is legal in the sate and federal legislature, then why post the comment at all? Also, it is obvious that the "you" used in your comment was referring to StickyMango. If it was referring to yourself, then tell me how this would make sense at all:

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Originally Posted by theloadeddragon
I really wish he didn't come back...... especially under same alias....... kind of pisses me off when I get those posts in my journal.......

Why/How yah think he got busted? Not using the noggin....

Its nothing personal.......

But damn........

I got kids.......

You know what that means?

your always a split second from the wrong move or wrong decision that will ruin LIVES, and not just your own......

I would Kill for my kids without even thinking about it....... I provide for my kids, they rely on ME....... so...... you fuck with me, your fucking with me kids..... even if your not trying to fuck with me..... get it?

That statement in no way infers that the "you" being used actually refers to YOU. How could that be true when the words "I" and "you" are both used simultaneously when mentioning your kids? It's apparent that the "I/my/me" refers to you; theloadeddragon, and that the "you/your(you're)" refers to someone else; most likely StickyMango. If I have misinterpreted your statement, then you, sir, do not know how to communicate effectively. Even though I may have lost your respect, I can assure you that you've lost the respect of many. I think that you may be able to gain back the respect of some by just admitting that your post was senseless instead of trying to convince everyone that you meant something completely different than what you typed.
 
donkeyote

donkeyote

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poplars said:
freedom of speech. none of you have the right to say anything about whether or not mango should have changed his name,
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LOL, Freedom of Speech means that i have the right to my OPINION that the person in question should get a new alias, just as it gives the right for the person to tell me to go fuck myself. It works both ways.

I love when people cite freedom of speech, then immediately say that someone doesnt have the right to say something.
 
poplars

poplars

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donkeyote said:
LOL, Freedom of Speech means that i have the right to my OPINION that the person in question should get a new alias, just as it gives the right for the person to tell me to go fuck myself. It works both ways.

I love when people cite freedom of speech, then immediately say that someone doesnt have the right to say something.
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yeah I'll admit that's a bad habit of mine. but whatever, what's said is said. I have the right to be wrong as well. ahaha.
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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Fine.... LAZY!

You can find the Constitution and some extra info about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution

You can find info on ONDCP here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_National_Drug_Control_Policy

And here http://www.ondcp.com/

You can find information on the DEA and FDA here http://www.justice.gov/dea/index.htm here http://www.fda.gov/ and here http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=8&ved=0CB8QFjAH&url=http://leda.law.harvard.edu/leda/data/78/thunn.rtf&rct=j&q=DEA+FDA+established+legitimate&ei=Av0vS6-jI5HasQP6-6SHBA&usg=AFQjCNFR6gy4khmGKyc1hUyLxYsbzH5kgw

you have to pay close attention to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Seven_of_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Six_of_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

You can find limmited info on the CSA here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act and some more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Drug_Abuse_Prevention_and_Control_Act_of_1970

The Single Convention Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs

its quite simple

Alcohol was prohibited

Cannabis has never been federally prohibited

Cannabis is regulated

Cannabis is regulated by agencies that don't actually technically have the authority to do so.

The Bill of Rights sets forth Every God Given natural right a person has to consume cannabis as deemed by themselves personally, or as allowed by local laws, setting specific provisions for the States to have the legal authority to do so. No such power has ever been delegated to the Federal Government to do so.

It is our Constitutional right to freely exercise our religions

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–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. 6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. 7. religions, Archaic. religious rites. 8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
—Idiom 9. get religion, Informal. a. to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices. b. to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.
Origin:
1150&#8211;1200; ME religioun (< OF religion) < L religi&#333;n- (s. of religi&#333;) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig(&#257;re) to tie, fasten (re- re- + lig&#257;re to bind, tie; cf. ligament ) + -i&#333;n- -ion; cf. rely



re·li·gion (r&#301;-l&#301;j'&#601;n)
n.
    1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
    2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
  2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
  3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
  4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

[Middle English religioun, from Old French religion, from Latin religi&#333;, religi&#333;n-, perhaps from relig&#257;re, to tie fast; see [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1] rely[/SIZE][/FONT].] The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Word Origin & History

religion
c.1200, "state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods," in L.L. "monastic life" (5c.); according to Cicero, derived from relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read" (see lecture). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare "to bind fast" (see rely), via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. Meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c.1300.
"The equal toleration of all religions ... is the same thing as atheism." [Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]​
Modern sense of "recognition of, obedience to, and worship of a higher, unseen power" is from 1535. Religious is first recorded c.1225. Transfered sense of "scrupulous, exact" is recorded from 1599.



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to not have a religion is to live a religion, simply by living you are exercising the definition of religion (noun) and are thereby practicing religion (verb, adverb)

to live, is to have a religion

The Executive Branch delegates the power of Federal Administration, conflicting with constitutional rights

The Federal Administrations Administer the law, though, for some reason the American people have allowed them to illegally delegate the laws.

There is no Amendment in the Constitution allowing for this to happen.

But, it is up to the people to enforce the Constitution.

Temple 420 did, and they are still around :D

I did, and I am still around.

Now we get to "Reality"

Where the "Law as it is written" separates from the law as it is interpreted or used and practiced.

It is simply a matter of Us the People Executing the Law in a mature and responsible manner.
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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Letsgo through this shall we..... seems some people need to learn how to read comprehensively...... notice the breaks between the statements I make.... broken up just like paragraphs.... Why do people organize and separate paragraph? and what do these dotted lines represent that I am always using?........ possibly a relative connection between the ideas being presented before the "....." and after? And Why don't I always "......" at the end of every statement? If I don't use the "......" does it mean the thought is concluded?



I really wish he didn't come back...... especially under same alias....... kind of pisses me off when I get those posts in my journal.......

(using the word he rather than you is clearly a sign of general discussion, and is not addressing any person in particular, meaning I wasn't specifically talking to "him")
(I didn't say what it was that pissed me off about the posts in my journal, or even which posts, so it would be your own supposition that would determine your perceived inference)

Why/How yah think he got busted? Not using the noggin....

(again the use of the word "he" being subjective and obviously targeted toward another audience, so I am still not talking to Sticky Mango)

Its nothing personal.......

(this obvously means that, it is nothing personal to me, or in other words, has nothing really to do with me, doesn't have to affect me, Im not worried, and Im not directing anything negative toward the subjected party)

But damn........

I got kids.......

You know what that means?

your always a split second from the wrong move or wrong decision that will ruin LIVES, and not just your own......

(I haven't been speaking to Sticky Mango the entire time, still not speaking to him, so he obivously can't be "You" specifically, but possibly generally, as in "You" people" the "You" being all inclusive)

(Now Notice the Difference in how I wrote "You" and "you" .... one is Capitalized, the other is not, this is suggestive of uses in different contexts, where in the first "You" I am addressing the general audience, in the second "you" is describing an idea or concept, as represented by the following analogy refferring to the previously mentioned statement "I got kids......." the "......" leading into the first "You", but no "........" leading into the second "you")
(Now really, how is StickyMango's internet Activity thousands of miles away from me going to Ruin my kids lives? But I am right here, and one wrong move away from ruining my kids lives..... hmmmm.....)
(there is a "....." leading away from this last emboldened statement, lets see what it connects to)

I would Kill for my kids without even thinking about it....... I provide for my kids, they rely on ME....... so...... you fuck with me, your fucking with me kids..... even if your not trying to fuck with me..... get it?

(Well, Oh, would you look at that........ the statement immediately following the "....." is all about me, me and my kids, and how I would go to any extent for them, the "......" coming from the statement starting with "you" leads into it...... hmmmm, and then I put in even "if your not trying to fuck with me", well, I generally try not to fuck with myself, "get it?")

I have no need to "save face" as I have lost none.

I will jump on your words though, I will exploit what they mean, and the contexts with which you use them.
 
growin4it

growin4it

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dill is there a way to just block dragon from the thread? he is never going to let this go, and will continue to argue until everyone agrees that he is in the right, which obviously is not going to happen. he is ruining your journal... he can start his own thread and talk about it there...

have some respect for the guy who started the journal, and just let it go... seriously
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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the second you, besides myself, applies to anyone else that has children.

That's why I didn't post I in that section, but in the next that it leads into......

(wow, look ^^^^ Im using the Exact same context I ALWAYS USE!)

and guess what.... I went off on FDD on day when he didn't deserve it about some BS, and I was WRONG, and I readily admited to it.

I state my intentions clearly. Interesting how people compliment how clearly I depict things.

The only thing that I did or said that was fucked up..... was take up so much space here on Dills thread trying to explain simple reason, get you stoners to do some of your own research and learn about some very important topics, and explain the definition of words and how the way I use grammer and syntax is constant and plainly evident of many minute details that without close inspection and a clear understanding of the English language (both as written and spoken) the reader would never notice. For example, I only use Capital letters for particular reasons, but Typically, if you see me use a capital letter in the middle of a sentence for a word or words that it would not be grammatically corect to capitalize, there is a (or many) good reason for it. Typically, Captial. Typically, when you see a Series of Dots, it means........ it leads somewhere. Typically when an idea is complete, it is followed by ending punctuation. If the context of the following statement don't correspond with that of the next, a break of lines is usually provided to signal it.

The ONLY thing that I have been hot headed about, that I have been upset about, was the insult from the person that has no children, about what it is to be a good parent and "....truly care about your children...." wish you could say that to my face. And the face of every other parent grower on this site. Hope you find out while your in jail for improperly defending yourself for cannabis cultivation, that she is expecting, keeping it, and your not getting out for 5 yrs "Mr. Good Parent".
 
baggednismo

baggednismo

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wow people... have you not taken the time to realize you have been arguing since page 25 and here it is now 30 and there is no sign of it stopping. You completely hijacked this guys thread, none of this has anything to do with HIS grow... To tell you the truth, I could give a fuck about your problems and the need to defend ones self image portrayed on a fucking forum... Im sick reading it and im sure Dillweed is as well so please move that shit else where! might i suggest PM? or possibly a new thread under the category Who Gives A Fuck?

sorry to hear about people getting busted through a forum, but you didnt think they would find out if they were really interested? I have had police come to my work with photos from myspace and facebook... they arent fucking stupid... sorry again that such a thing has happened but if you want to live in the US, this is what most of us must go through. (not specifically sought after through RIU but you get the idea)

Dillweed, your last pic update was the 9th? wtf man... lol im only messin around, eagerly awaiting an update though!
 
BooMeR242

BooMeR242

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come on gusy peace and love 8)

lol anyways dill im still here chillin followin silently with my bubb

fuk the piggies too and the feds sneaky bitches
 
baggednismo

baggednismo

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^^ well said boomer lol short sweet, i like it

Kinda reminded me of a couple years ago, I had just finished off a fat bowl of BBxAK-47 sprinkled with a penny size pile of kief when I had realized for the past 8 months I was posting detailed pics/reviews of weed, bong rippin vids, etc with the same damn username as my email, photobucket, youtube, and that stupid mistake of even making a myspace let alone it was the same display name...

not really sure why this didnt dawn on me before, within 2 weeks of that I saw first hand they werent afraid to use social networking sites for criminal investigations... It wasnt me they were investigating thankfully however from the photos i was shown printed from myspace they were able to piece together when he stole the laptop *featured in pictures the night of theft* along side his pics of rolls, coke, and weed stash. Our shop is well known in the area to purchase used equipment so naturally we had purchased the laptop a couple days before hand.

not even 20min after he left i went back to all the accounts and shut them down, created new ones all with different names this time
 
Boulderheads

Boulderheads

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I am with Boomer, Dill always has such wonderful journal's... great info, and great pics.. can we just get back to the issue at hand.."Dill's" journal not whatever else is going on.. I respect everyone's opinion, but this is someone's journal, let him have his peace here. Rock-on Dill!
 
growin4it

growin4it

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DillWeed said:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023

That utility will completely block any specific user's posts from showing up on this forum if you add them to your ignore list. It only works if you use Firefox as your browser though, but that should be a given.
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nice.. much better now

so now that you're running both tents at the same time, how are you keeping temps down in each? perhaps you have a more efficient way than what I'm doing, which is nearly identical to your DIY vent system but used for channeling the cold air in rather than the hot air out.. if that makes sense lol.. just ripped some nice hash bongsmilie:weed:
 
aa614

aa614

Member
theloadeddragon said:
Letsgo through this shall we..... seems some people need to learn how to read comprehensively...... notice the breaks between the statements I make.... broken up just like paragraphs.... Why do people organize and separate paragraph? and what do these dotted lines represent that I am always using?........ possibly a relative connection between the ideas being presented before the "....." and after? And Why don't I always "......" at the end of every statement? If I don't use the "......" does it mean the thought is concluded?



I really wish he didn't come back...... especially under same alias....... kind of pisses me off when I get those posts in my journal.......

(using the word he rather than you is clearly a sign of general discussion, and is not addressing any person in particular, meaning I wasn't specifically talking to "him")
(I didn't say what it was that pissed me off about the posts in my journal, or even which posts, so it would be your own supposition that would determine your perceived inference)

Why/How yah think he got busted? Not using the noggin....

(again the use of the word "he" being subjective and obviously targeted toward another audience, so I am still not talking to Sticky Mango)

Its nothing personal.......

(this obvously means that, it is nothing personal to me, or in other words, has nothing really to do with me, doesn't have to affect me, Im not worried, and Im not directing anything negative toward the subjected party)

But damn........

I got kids.......

You know what that means?

your always a split second from the wrong move or wrong decision that will ruin LIVES, and not just your own......

(I haven't been speaking to Sticky Mango the entire time, still not speaking to him, so he obivously can't be "You" specifically, but possibly generally, as in "You" people" the "You" being all inclusive)

(Now Notice the Difference in how I wrote "You" and "you" .... one is Capitalized, the other is not, this is suggestive of uses in different contexts, where in the first "You" I am addressing the general audience, in the second "you" is describing an idea or concept, as represented by the following analogy refferring to the previously mentioned statement "I got kids......." the "......" leading into the first "You", but no "........" leading into the second "you")
(Now really, how is StickyMango's internet Activity thousands of miles away from me going to Ruin my kids lives? But I am right here, and one wrong move away from ruining my kids lives..... hmmmm.....)
(there is a "....." leading away from this last emboldened statement, lets see what it connects to)

I would Kill for my kids without even thinking about it....... I provide for my kids, they rely on ME....... so...... you fuck with me, your fucking with me kids..... even if your not trying to fuck with me..... get it?

(Well, Oh, would you look at that........ the statement immediately following the "....." is all about me, me and my kids, and how I would go to any extent for them, the "......" coming from the statement starting with "you" leads into it...... hmmmm, and then I put in even "if your not trying to fuck with me", well, I generally try not to fuck with myself, "get it?")

I have no need to "save face" as I have lost none.

I will jump on your words though, I will exploit what they mean, and the contexts with which you use them.
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My point is that no one in their right mind would possibly interpret your post in the way which you CLAIM to have intended it to be. I think you're lying about what you meant when you typed the statement. And if you're not lying, that means that you have no idea which words to use when trying to convey an idea to other people. Either way, you are being percieved by many people as an ignorant person because of your recent posts.
 
DillWeed

DillWeed

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Now that this thread has turned into a full fledged debate that has absolutely nothing to do with my journal, I might as well just start a new thread. I'll sleep on it.
 
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