Did we actually land on the moon?

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We TaRdED

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hom36rown said:
Yes, at the exact same initial velocity a jump on the earth will take about 6x longer on the moon, however once again this does not mean that footage taken on the moon will look identical when played at 6x speed....once the astronaut reaches the top of his jump he still falls at the same rate as if he were the stationary ball being dropped....ok this may seem a little confusing so I will explain it using math
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You do know that the rate at which object rise and fall are the exact opposite(neglecting wind resistance, but there is no wind resistance on the moon anyways),right?

So if an object jumps off the ground at an initial rate of 20ft/s than after it reaches its apex and comes back down, it will hit the ground at the exact 20ft/s.

You do know that right?

So the flight upwards is equal to the drop downwards except inverse (in reverse), the rate of speeds will be equal in everything except its polarity (positive or negative sign).

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

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hom36rown

hom36rown

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We TaRdED said:
You do know that the rate at which object rise and fall are the exact opposite(neglecting wind resistance, but there is no wind resistance on the moon anyways),right?

So if an object jumps off the ground at an initial rate of 20ft/s than after it reaches its apex and comes back down, it will hit the ground at the exact 20ft/s.

You do know that right?

So the flight upwards is equal to the drop downwards except inverse (in reverse), the rate of speeds will be equal in everything except its polarity (positive or negative sign).

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
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yes I know this, its is included in my math even
 
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hom36rown said:
yes I know this, its is included in my math even
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"Yes, at the exact same initial velocity a jump on the earth will take about 6x longer on the moon, however once again this does not mean that footage taken on the moon will look identical when played at 6x speed...."

What do you mean, in words, by the bolded part?

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

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hom36rown

hom36rown

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meaning if you jumped on the moon, you would get 6x higher and 6x more air time than if you jumped with the exact same amount of force on the earth
 
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hom36rown said:
meaning if you jumped on the moon, you would get 6x higher and 6x more air time than if you jumped with the exact same amount of force on the earth
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Ok, I thought that I said that in the first place? That was my first educated postulate on moon gravity dynamics.... HAHA.. (You just contradicted yourself.... I'm confused now...:?)

I thought your argument was that you would only get ~2.5x more air time.. Isn't that your argument? Wasn't that your rebuttal to my postulate? I conceded with you that my postulate might be amiss after you showing me a formula, simply because my moon postulates was my best educated guess..

So my question is, what do you believe? Do you think an object on the moon takes 2.5 or 6 times as long when the same force is applied to the object?

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
hom36rown

hom36rown

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We TaRdED said:
Ok, I thought that I said that in the first place? That was my first educated postulate on moon gravity dynamics.... HAHA.. (You just contradicted yourself.... I'm confused now...:?)

I thought your argument was that you would only get ~2.5x more air time.. Isn't that your argument? Wasn't that your rebuttal to my postulate? I conceded with you that my postulate might be amiss after you showing me a formula, simply because my moon postulates was my best educated guess..

So my question is, what do you believe? Do you think an object on the moon takes 2.5 or 6 times as long when the same force is applied to the object?

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
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hom36rown said:
so yes your game is right, a jump with equal amount of force takes about 6x longer on the moon....however, like I said this does not mean that footage of the moon at 6x speed mimics gravity on the earth ....here I'll explain further...

lets start by figuring out exactly how high a jump with 10m/s of force will get you on the moon, we can figure this out by the formula: v(f)=v(i)^2+2a*d

so.....
0m/s=(10m/s^2)^2 + 3.2m/s^s*d

100m/s^2/(3.2m/s^2)=d

d=31.25m

ok so we have figured out that if you jump 31.25m on the moon, it will take a total of about 12.6 seconds from beginning to end.....so then by your logic(footage at 6x speed should mimic earths gravity) a 31.25 m jump on eath will take 2.1 seconds ( 12.6/6=2.1)

alright so now lets figure out how long it would take from beginning to end for for a 31.25 m jump on earth and see if does indeed take 2.1 seconds (somehow I doubt it)

so we know t=sqrt(2d/g) so...
t=sqrt(62.5/9.8 )
t=sqrt(6.4)~2.5*2= 5 seconds

so It takes a total of 5 seconds for a 31.25m jump on earth, so you are WRONG....ok now lets go back and divide the two times and see what the correct ratio is

12.6/5= whatddya fucking know its fuckin 2.5 again, like Ive been saying this whole fucking time....YOUR GRAVITY THEORY IS WRONG
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yes, you are indeed confused....I did not contradict myself, you just dont understand....poseidons game proves my point, the ball falls 2.64x slower..........please take a look at the math...Im not sure how I can explain this any clearer.....a 5 ft jump on the moon takes 2.64x longer than a 5 ft jump on the earth....however a jump of of equal force will get you 6x higher on the moon than on the earth...look at the math it makes perfect sense......can you prove your theory mathematically?....no.....can you refute my math?....no....
 
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We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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hom36rown said:
meaning if you jumped on the moon, you would get 6x higher and 6x more air time than if you jumped with the exact same amount of force on the earth
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Why did you say that you would get 6 times more air time? Why would you say that if your trying to prove that it would take 2.5 times longer? Or "2.5 times more air time".... (Was that a typo or something? You must have been confused.)

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

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hom36rown

hom36rown

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No that is what I meant, you are confused, look at the math...look at poseidons game even...things fall 2.64 times slower, but equal force will get you 6x higher/airtime on the moon....its not that difficult to understand
 
PoseidonsNet

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YOUR GRAVITY THEORY IS WRONG
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ITS NOT MY GRAVITY THEORY
ITS ISAAC NEWTONS

i cant take credit for it, sorry

plug the code into visual basic or ask someone at a vb forum to do it for you.
its a very easy application to learn vb with from a coding point of view.

see what a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER who works with these things all the time
has to say

if you think i rigged the app then y would i put up the source code?

as for the comments on streaming : take a computer course sometime.
its not a video its an application!

It cannot stream. same as you cannot put a vhs video into a betamax


the reason why 2.5~ is wrong is that if you put two bodies in motion at the same time

with equal distance from the surface, (one on earth, the other on the moon),

then when the one hits the earth,
the other will have only covered 1/6th of the distance.

but heres the rub: the object that hits the earth has to stop at this point
giving the object on the moon time to accelerate and catch up

thats bias. the 2.5~ idea is a mathematical illusion

if these answers do not prove anything, then why have you all been arguing against them?

take my source code to your prof and ask him to plug it into his computer if he knows how to program vb he will be forced to agree :

the lunar landings were faked
if you do not see or understand the math at all then ....

how do you explain armstrong saying he saw a ufo on the way to the moon?
do you moon believers also believe in ufos now? (still no answer after umpteenth query)

btw only 3 of you have so far downloaded the app.
there have been far more detractors than that!

and keep a copy
nasa may just dislike what i have proven
and you may never hear from me again

like those 40% of astronauts that died in 'car crashes'

and where is the blackened blast on the surface of the moon from the rocket engine?
and y was the dust not blown away from the blast of the rocket?
and if they can take a quadbike, y not a few rolls of color video?
and how can apollo turn around in 3 months in 1969
but the shuttle which only goes to orbit takes 6 times as long with 2008 tech?
and y did the russians not even try?
or anyone else for that matter?
y have the americans not been back?

surely if mars was the next mission they would at least be going to the moon once every ten years as training, not only for astronauts, but ground crew too? (more important than astronauts actually)

and y have no space tourists paid america to do it?
y does america not want space tourism at all?

do you yanks not like money anymore?

i'm starting to wonder if america only consists of hollywood and wigwams and bufallo
i'm starting to believe that your economy is bolstered by fraud
i'm starting to wonder if russian communism failed as a result of american lies
i'm starting to think that america is not the next nazi germany, but the current one
i'm starting to distrust everything american
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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PoseidonsNet said:
i'm starting to wonder if america only consists of hollywood and wigwams and bufallo
i'm starting to believe that your economy is bolstered by fraud
i'm starting to wonder if russian communism failed as a result of american lies
i'm starting to think that america is not the next nazi germany, but the current one
i'm starting to distrust everything american
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I'm starting to think the same way. I think America is the current Nazi Germany too, especially the way the past 7 years have gone.

Just watch these..

YouTube - Grow more pot! Part 1
YouTube - Grow more pot! Part 2

The Money Masters - Part 1 of 2
The Money Masters - Part 2 of 2

Ring of Power - Parts 1-5 - Sprword.com
Ring of Power - Parts 6-10 - Sprword.com

America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Channel: UKUFO on LiveVideo.com

Esoteric Agenda - Sprword.com

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

HAHAHAHAHA............... Makes you wonder.....

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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hom36rown

hom36rown

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PoseidonsNet said:
ITS NOT MY GRAVITY THEORY
ITS ISAAC NEWTONS

i cant take credit for it, sorry

plug the code into visual basic or ask someone at a vb forum to do it for you.
its a very easy application to learn vb with from a coding point of view.

see what a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER who works with these things all the time
has to say

if you think i rigged the app then y would i put up the source code?

as for the comments on streaming : take a computer course sometime.
its not a video its an application!

It cannot stream. same as you cannot put a vhs video into a betamax


the reason why 2.5~ is wrong is that if you put two bodies in motion at the same time

with equal distance from the surface, (one on earth, the other on the moon),

then when the one hits the earth,
the other will have only covered 1/6th of the distance.

but heres the rub: the object that hits the earth has to stop at this point
giving the object on the moon time to accelerate and catch up

thats bias. the 2.5~ idea is a mathematical illusion

if these answers do not prove anything, then why have you all been arguing against them?

take my source code to your prof and ask him to plug it into his computer if he knows how to program vb he will be forced to agree :

the lunar landings were faked
if you do not see or understand the math at all then ....

how do you explain armstrong saying he saw a ufo on the way to the moon?
do you moon believers also believe in ufos now? (still no answer after umpteenth query)

btw only 3 of you have so far downloaded the app.
there have been far more detractors than that!

and keep a copy
nasa may just dislike what i have proven
and you may never hear from me again

like those 40% of astronauts that died in 'car crashes'

and where is the blackened blast on the surface of the moon from the rocket engine?
and y was the dust not blown away from the blast of the rocket?
and if they can take a quadbike, y not a few rolls of color video?
and how can apollo turn around in 3 months in 1969
but the shuttle which only goes to orbit takes 6 times as long with 2008 tech?
and y did the russians not even try?
or anyone else for that matter?
y have the americans not been back?

surely if mars was the next mission they would at least be going to the moon once every ten years as training, not only for astronauts, but ground crew too? (more important than astronauts actually)

and y have no space tourists paid america to do it?
y does america not want space tourism at all?

do you yanks not like money anymore?

i'm starting to wonder if america only consists of hollywood and wigwams and bufallo
i'm starting to believe that your economy is bolstered by fraud
i'm starting to wonder if russian communism failed as a result of american lies
i'm starting to think that america is not the next nazi germany, but the current one
i'm starting to distrust everything american
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you obviously didnt read what I wrote at all :roll: your game is right and it proves my point
 
hom36rown

hom36rown

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the ball is no different than an astronaut at the top of his jump, and the time it takes for an astronaut to fall at the top of his jump is equal to the time it took for him to get to the top of his jump, so if a ball falls 2.64 times slower from equal distances that means an astronaut will fall 2.64x slower at an equal distance....so a 6ft jump on the earth as compared to the moon will take 2.64x faster to reach the top of the jump, and 2.64x faster to hit the ground again, so if you speed up moon footage to 2.64x (not 6x) speed, it would mimic ballistic motion on the earth, very simple....
 
We TaRdED

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This is a long ass thread! HAHA

I wonder how many people can actually read all of this and fathom everything said. Some people just aren't educated enough.

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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blackout

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PoseidonsNet said:
that happen 2 u 2?

man i did the moon on shrooms with only half gravity instead of one sixth,

i couldnt tell if it was slow motion or fast motion, or the moon or the hollywood hills,

forgot my golf ball up there too. damn.
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ithink i was raped ,and horrible things put in my mind ,oh no i did that with the mushrooms.:peace:
 
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NJgrower187

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-If it was stagged they wouldn't have gone to such extreme measures, would have come up with an easier to way to persuade us more.

-There were to many people involved in this project where something like staging it just could not possibly go unoticed.

-Mythbusters have busted all the conspiracy theories with actual testing.

-I don't believe neil armstrong would have wanted to be the icon of a pile of lies. He seemed like an intelligent man and not the kind of person who would take such a bribe.

-After all these years someone who would have be in on it would have opened their mouths for the title.

-I know the gov. has lied about some fucked up shit in the past and are very good at hiding it aswell, but to the moon?? com'n

-Although the U.S. was extremely power hungry back then, more than usual, but there was better ways where we could've gained more superiority than staging a trip to the moon.




And who the fuck cares man?? It may be an accomplishment in some peoples eyes but damn, think outside the box, the moon sucks. Wow, we went to a piece of desolate rock in space. It doesn't matter what so ever, it changes nothing for the good of humanity. We wasted are money and time, could of used the billions of dollars on something that would benifit humanity alot more...as usual.

"Both are infinite, human stupidity and the universe, but i'm not sure about the universe"
 
vag

vag

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you seriously have to be retarded to think we didnt land on the moon. if you dont think we landed on the moon where do you suppose the rockets go in the videos when you watch it go into space
 
JOEGALLO

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Puff said:
yea we did land on the moon, even left a moon buggy there. I want to take this thing for a ride in 1/6 earth's gravity. Imagine the jumps you could make! How did they get that thing there anyhow? The lunar lander doesnt look like it has a trailer hitch on it? What do you think?
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I worked with a guy in Houston when I was doing refinery inspection ... his name was bill peacock, his dad was one of the designers/egnineers of that moon buggy.... dont know why I thought I would share that but was interesting to me when I heard about it.
 
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