Desperate for help! (Laughing Buddha/Blue OG/Wonder Woman grow)

View attachment 3194013 Hello Rollitup! This is my first post on this site and I'm in dire need of some advice! Just a quick background...
Laughing Buddha and Blue OG went into flowering about 5 weeks ago, my 2 Wonder Woman's went almost straight from sprout to flower (they're doing great though).

The middle photo is my laughing Buddha, the leaves are droopy and turning brown and crispy and falling off. There are tons of bud sites and they seem to be doing great but almost all the leaves look bad. On the other hand, u have my blue OG which is budding phenomenally with next to no lead damage at all! The wonder woman's I just threw in there because I wanted a little extra yield and I got lucky w 2 females, but I'm worried about this Buddha.

The temps get up to 90 sometimes, usually around low 80s though (aren't sativas supposed to do better than indicas in high heat though?? Could be a nute problem, I give them both fox farm organic nutes and they both get the same amount. I'm stumped. Any input is appreciated, I'm really excited to try this Buddha and want it to be perfect. Btw, this is my first grow. Thanks!

A few more things,

1. I didn't realize the pics would be huge, sorry for that, I uploaded from my phone.
2. The top photo is my Blue OG, the nugs are looking even better than that, I'll get updated pics soon. The middle is my laughing buddha, again it's not a completely up to date photo and the leaves look worse than that now, and the bottom are my 2 Wonder Women which are doing surprisingly well since I got them to sprout and immediately through them in the flowering room. They're about 1 month old.
3. I'm using a 400w HPS light and I'm doing 11/13 light/dark cycle (taking DJ Short's advice). I have a 200CFM fan in a 500 SQ foot closet with a couple regular fans acting as intake fans. I use fox farm nutes and fox farm oceanic mix soil. they're in 3 gallon buckets and I water til about 10-20% is dripping out the bottom.

I'm wondering if I may need to water the buddha more frequently or possibly switch it to a 5 gallon bucket? I'm doing PH'd water and Fertilized water switching off every 2-3 days. Thanks!

btw delete pic with any form of contacting you like the canine college lol just saying

Hahaha yea probably a good call, thanks. I'll upload a better pic of the plant tomorrow

some help!

Quick Deficiency Guide

Nitrogen: Entire plant is light green in color; lower leaves are yellow; growth is stunted....

Phosphorous: Entire plant is bluish-green, often developing a red or purpleish cast; lower leaves may be yellow, drying to a greenish-brown to black color; growth may be stunted...

Potassium: Leaves have a papery appearance; dead areas along the edges of leaves; growth is stunted...

Magnesium: Lower leaves turn yellow along the tips and margin and between the veins; the lower leaves wilt...

Calcium: Young stems and new leaves die...

Zinc: Leaf tissue between the veins is lighter in color; yellowed; papery in appearance...

Iron: Leaf tissue appears yellow, while the veins remain green...

Copper: Leaf edges appear dark green or blue; leaf edges curl upward; young leaves permanently wilt...

Sulfur: Young leaves turn pale green, while the older leaves remain green; plant is stunted and spindly...

Mananese: Growth is stunted; lower leaves have a checkered pattern of yellow and green...

Molybdenum: Leaves are stunted, pale green, and malformed...

Boron: Young leaves are scorched at tips and margins...

I grow laughing buddah.

I don't see any pics to show any deficiencies, but the usual deficiency suspect is a cal/mag issue.

also the LB loves to be FIM'd, supercropped and lollipopped, and can go as long as 10 weeks

Here's a good picture of the problem I'm having here. From pictures I've seen online it looks like a phosphorous deficiency?

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You need to keep your room under 80...a good looking plant can dry to nasty hay if your in the nineties and upper 80s.. if you chop it and it's loose and fluffy even though it looked great growing then heat had an impact on you.. Also lack of moisture in the plant material could be your problem anyway but i didn't look hard quick glance.. Get the temps down

one more heads up on the LB, that bish is extremely hermie prone from light leaks. had 2 cycles of LB's herm on me, I now made adjustments to my flower room. no hermie this time.

kermit2692 said:

You need to keep your room under 80...a good looking plant can dry to nasty hay if your in the nineties and upper 80s.. if you chop it and it's loose and fluffy even though it looked great growing then heat had an impact on you.. Also lack of moisture in the plant material could be your problem anyway but i didn't look hard quick glance.. Get the temps down

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Getting the temps down before this plant is done is going to be near impossible, for the most part its in the upper 70s, but it does reach up to high 80's-91 at peak times of the day. Do you think foliar feeding may help if it's a moisture issue? I read not to do this in flower as you can help induce mold, but if that's what I gotta do it may be worth a shot?

don't spray anything in flower. its not worth the risk of potentially ruining a crop due to mold.

put dry ice in your grow room if you need to lower temps and you don't really have any other way to do so.

You can spray all you want in that temp no mold will be growing lol.. but it won't help . you need to do whatever you can to get that temp down.. I find it funny when people say they can't, ok then why bother because the product will look great growing but when it dries it will be crap.. I taught a buddy and explained the temps were causing problems we needed either a better exhaust system or an ac.. he goes eh i don't want to spend any money, so i sat back and watched him grow hay to learn his lesson.... if you want decent herb you NEED to get the temp down bottom line, otherwise you are wasting your time

Ya I get what ur sayin, and after this harvest it's all moving to my basement, was just wondering if there was a quick fix for now because in my upstairs closet I've already got a 400 cfm outlet fan and ac unit but still doesn't wanna stay in the 70s for me.

And also, the sativas come from the equator I've also heard that 90s are very common. My indicas doing amazing in the closet, the sativas the only one giving me trouble oddly enough. Guess well see in a month

kermit2692 said:

You can spray all you want in that temp no mold will be growing lol.. but it won't help . you need to do whatever you can to get that temp down.. I find it funny when people say they can't, ok then why bother because the product will look great growing but when it dries it will be crap.. I taught a buddy and explained the temps were causing problems we needed either a better exhaust system or an ac.. he goes eh i don't want to spend any money, so i sat back and watched him grow hay to learn his lesson.... if you want decent herb you NEED to get the temp down bottom line, otherwise you are wasting your time

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even when running in a basement, you still need something to control temps. all that heat from your lights has to go somewhere. basement ambient temps (at east in my house and my old condo) were 74/75* in summer, and maby a degree or two cooler in the winter. this was with out a grow. after a 600wmh/hps or two, the temps most likely will rise to about 77-79.

Ya in the summer my basement is very cold, probably in the 50s I'm going to get a grow tent and pull that air through w my inline fan/ducing straight outside.

if you going to be pushing 440cfm worth of air outside your basement without and air coming in to even out the pressure, you might run into issues with your gas furnace/hot water heater. I had an hvac guy at my old condo where I grew in the basement, and was having issues with my furnace and hot h2o tank. he asked me if I vented the hot air outside, and if I had a fan to replenish the air in the basement. I told him I only had it exhausted outside, and no air coming back in. made an intake to get air back in the basement and never had any issues since.

You will be better off when you move it down and you can limp through this grow and may get lucky but I'm guessing you will get fluffier hay smelling weaker pot.. good luck on that not happening but from the next grow on stay under 80, yes in the wild those Sativas live in hundred degree weather however indoors the light intensity is greater and the moisture levels are lower which leads to heat having a greater affect.. lower temps in the eighties and especially nineties are still just too much for indoors for that same strain.. One way to allow yourself a larger window is grow with co2, plants with co2 supplemented prefer around 85 because the plant can basically breathe better in less words..

Cool thanks very much for the help guys. I hope, like you said Kermit, that I can limp my way through this one. Spent a lot of money to get the setup right and of course I just can't get that damn temp down to save my life in that closet (Or my plants life in this case).

And good point Demon, I'll have to look into that. It's a walkout basement though so I'm hoping that may help with getting some air in.