Debating with a Trumper part three

sixstring2112 said:

i was outsmarted by the jew media

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sixstring2112 said:

If you think there is any kind of adult conversation going on at this site,in this section you will be disappointed. If these guys could actually debate and converse without throwing temper tantrums you might actually find a trump voter who will debate you like an adult.in the meantime we have buck cuck and biglube and all their lil cronies running around making up lies and calling everyone a retard that doesn't share their cluster fucked views. So what we get is the "other side" basically doing the same shit lol

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DiogenesTheWiser said:

Not even Trump's acolytes in the WH and the federal government can make an argument for any of the shit they do or advocate. It's all based on this slippery "make America great again" nonsense. How can "greatness" be measured? How can "greatness" be activated or re-activated? When was America "great" in the first place?

As long as the Trump cultists build their rhetoric around this slippery twitter hashtag, there'll be no debating Trumpers.

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DiogenesTheWiser said:

Not even Trump's acolytes in the WH and the federal government can make an argument for any of the shit they do or advocate. It's all based on this slippery "make America great again" nonsense. How can "greatness" be measured? How can "greatness" be activated or re-activated? When was America "great" in the first place?

As long as the Trump cultists build their rhetoric around this slippery twitter hashtag, there'll be no debating Trumpers.

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sixstring2112 said:

trumpers are just sick of how our government has been run the past few decades and saw an outsider who already had money that might be able to actually make changes like "draining the swamp" or change how nato operates off mostly US dollars.we cant afford to keep doing things the way they have been done these past few decades.

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DiogenesTheWiser said:

Twitter asshole: The Constitution guarantees the states the power to run their own affairs regardless of what the federal government does.

Me: Actually, the Constitution gives the federal government the power to oversee the states' powers.

Twitter asshole: You're wrong. The Constitutional Convention in 1787 decided that the states should have all the power in the government. The founders were against strong, centralized federal authority!

Me: You're wrong, and that segregationist academy that taught you history did a poor job. The founders called themselves "Federalists" because they believed in a strong, central federal authority.

Twitter asshole: You need to educate yourself on this.

Me: I have bachelor's degrees in history and philosophy and a doctorate in political science.

Twitter asshole: By throwing out your credentials, you're committing the fallacy of appeal to authority.

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sixstring2112 said:

America has always been great imo..

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DiogenesTheWiser said:

Ok.

What does "great" mean in this context? What was it about America in the past that was "great"? And, finally, how do we measure "greatness"?

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