Day 35 of 12/12.... Hermie?

skunkd0c said:
at 35 days narnas are not good, and they are at the top of a cola too at 50 days wouldn't be so bad

he can remove them as they appear if there are not many of them
its a good idea to remember even if you have no other plants
pollen that is released by hemies in the grow area can remain viable for quite some time and pollinate future crops in the same space
a good clean up of the grow space is a pretty sensible idea once that plant has finished
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I removed all of them that I could see, there were only like 5 or 6. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse, I'll just keep an eye on this plant(and all my other plants too from now on..). Hopefully it didnt/doesnt spread any pollen, I got 7 more plants in the area. I still think itll be best in the end just to keep it alive and pick off what I can, better than losing 1/8 of my crop. A lot of it has already been seeded already by that other asshole plant. I doubt a few seeds will make much of a difference in the end though, this is all for personal consumption anyways.

Thanks for all the advise though guys! :bigjoint:This plant will no doubt be some dank ass shit hermie or not
 
Sunbiz1 said:
Chop it, what for?. That will still produce decent bud, just seeded. Plus the cross-beans might be an interesting grow.
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growing out seeds that result from plants that hemi so early on at 35 days is more likely to result in more hemi genetics since these traits can be passed on
not something i would advise
peace :)
 
wsf said:
I removed all of them that I could see, there were only like 5 or 6. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse, I'll just keep an eye on this plant(and all my other plants too from now on..). Hopefully it didnt/doesnt spread any pollen, I got 7 more plants in the area. I still think itll be best in the end just to keep it alive and pick off what I can, better than losing 1/8 of my crop. A lot of it has already been seeded already by that other asshole plant. I doubt a few seeds will make much of a difference in the end though, this is all for personal consumption anyways.

Thanks for all the advise though guys! :bigjoint:This plant will no doubt be some dank ass shit hermie or not
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i agree with you mate, it sounds like you will be able to manage it , but be sure to keep a very close eye on things and clean up well afterwards
it is a little bit of a worry its at this early stage, 35 days the buds are all still very fertile and waiting to be pollinated

i have let a few plants grow out that were a little seeded to see what they would smoke like, i was surprised the potency was largely unaffected for the particular strain it was as potent as it had been with no seeds
but it totally destroyed the flavor , the very strong hash flavor it would of had with no seeds was gone it was bland

peace
 
Yup them's nanners. I've had them when using feminized seeds. Pluck em off as you see them but don't stress too much. I had one batch of weed that had 8 autoflower plants all go hermie. In the end, I collected several hundred very nice looking seeds. Most of the seeds occured in the bottom popcorn buds so it didn't matter too much. I just collected them for outdoor experiments as they will probably have a tendency to hermie like the parents. The weed was top notch quality which was quite a surprise to me.
 
skunkd0c said:
growing out seeds that result from plants that hemi so early on at 35 days is more likely to result in more hemi genetics since these traits can be passed on
not something i would advise
peace :)
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So, what you are saying is a hermaphrodite will pass along hermie tendencies to the offspring beans...yes?.
 
I personally do not think it matters if it's day 35 or 55 , the trait will still pass on, imo
 
Sunbiz1 said:
So, what you are saying is a hermaphrodite will pass along hermie tendencies to the offspring beans...yes?.
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yes ..its a bad idea, the offspring of the plants will inherit similar traits to the parents, so if the parents hemmi at 35 days, its quite possible the children will too,

the reason why i have mentioned the time factor here 35 days,

it is common for plants to produce some male flowers at the end of the cycle or when they reach full maturity i would not consider this a hemi trait .. but part of the natural survival of the plants, as i have seen it more often than not

going past full maturity is the method soma has used to produce fem seeds , if the plants produce male flowers at this late stage, (60-70 days) they are less likely to do harm, as the buds at this stage are largely past fertility, also the pollen can be infertile ,

clonex is right they are likely to pass on this trait no matter when they hemmy
but it is less likely to matter if they spit narnas at 60 or 70 days, as they will be chopped then
but at 35 days its a very undesirable trait for obvious reasons

peace :)
 
For years people told me that a hermie mother will always pass along the trait, so I did a little experiment of my own. 2 years ago I had one self-pollinate all by herself outdoors. I saved the beans and used them last year, 20 to be exact. Some were grown indoors, some in the forest. The results were as follows:

16 straight female with no tendencies whatsoever to self-pollinate
3 Male
1 slight herm, and I mean slight. I found 1 seed from an entire 8 foot plant(and glad I did!).

Can we dispel with a common myth now?.
 
Sunbiz1 said:
For years people told me that a hermie mother will always pass along the trait, so I did a little experiment of my own. 2 years ago I had one self-pollinate all by herself outdoors. I saved the beans and used them last year, 20 to be exact. Some were grown indoors, some in the forest. The results were as follows:

16 straight female with no tendencies whatsoever to self-pollinate
3 Male
1 slight herm, and I mean slight. I found 1 seed from an entire 8 foot plant(and glad I did!).

Can we dispel with a common myth now?.
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I am in no way doubting what you say , it's a toughie because i could paste you 100 extracts of info that state it is no myth , god the shits so confusing man , i have always believed it to be true , it would be better if it wasn't , (puzzled expression on face)
 
Sunbiz1 said:
For years people told me that a hermie mother will always pass along the trait, so I did a little experiment of my own. 2 years ago I had one self-pollinate all by herself outdoors. I saved the beans and used them last year, 20 to be exact. Some were grown indoors, some in the forest. The results were as follows:

16 straight female with no tendencies whatsoever to self-pollinate
3 Male
1 slight herm, and I mean slight. I found 1 seed from an entire 8 foot plant(and glad I did!).

Can we dispel with a common myth now?.
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it would be great to see some pictures and records of this experiment sounds interesting

as for dispelling myths, that's a nice idea, although your 20 plant experiment is interesting its rather short of conclusive evidence
as you suggesting that hemi traits cant be passed on ?

if you consider all other desirable and undesirable factors can be passed on, that is the point of breeding
it would be strange to think hemi traits stand alone and can not be passed on to the offspring

peace
 
Clonex said:
I am in no way doubting what you say , it's a toughie because i could paste you 100 extracts of info that state it is no myth , god the shits so confusing man , i have always believed it to be true , it would be better if it wasn't , (puzzled expression on face)
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It could have just been that particular strain, I would certainly be interested in seeing other results as well.

Peace!
 
skunkd0c said:
it would be great to see some pictures and records of this experiment sounds interesting

as for dispelling myths, that's a nice idea, although your 20 plant experiment is interesting its rather short of conclusive evidence
as you suggesting that hemi traits cant be passed on ?

if you consider all other desirable and undesirable factors can be passed on, that is the point of breeding
it would be strange to think hemi traits stand alone and can not be passed on to the offspring

peace
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I have a thread with pics, only it's on another board(THC Farmer). I think I can still find it even though the thief of an owner banned me.
 
never been a member on that board, looked around, seems ok
it seems all the weed forums are all full of the same drama and fighting every board i look on, they are all moaning about each other
trying to get each other banned .. i was reading things like that today on the mr nice forum lol
oh well, hope you find it m8
peace
 
Sunbiz1 said:
For years people told me that a hermie mother will always pass along the trait, so I did a little experiment of my own. 2 years ago I had one self-pollinate all by herself outdoors. I saved the beans and used them last year, 20 to be exact. Some were grown indoors, some in the forest. The results were as follows:

16 straight female with no tendencies whatsoever to self-pollinate
3 Male
1 slight herm, and I mean slight. I found 1 seed from an entire 8 foot plant(and glad I did!).

Can we dispel with a common myth now?.
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Nearly all female cannabis plants of all strains will self pollenate as a result of being overripe, this is not considered a Hermie gene, just a survival one.

If you get a Hermie in early flower or one as a result of stress you are likely to pass along Hermie tendencies because the parent already clearly had a tendency to herm.

Its not a "myth" and your small experiment proves nothing, sorry dude.
 
Harrekin said:
Nearly all female cannabis plants of all strains will self pollenate as a result of being overripe, this is not considered a Hermie gene, just a survival one.

If you get a Hermie in early flower or one as a result of stress you are likely to pass along Hermie tendencies because the parent already clearly had a tendency to herm.

Its not a "myth" and your small experiment proves nothing, sorry dude.
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So there is a separate gene for "survival", and a "Hermie" gene...both of which accomplish the same purpose?.

Please, do go on.
 
drunknb said:
Hermies isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it can suppliment future gorws. I'm on my 4th grow; 4 pot DWC and 6 out of 16 plants turned hermie on me...prolly from LST (at least from what I've read). As long as it's not a full male, it shouldn't do too much damage, only tosses off the weight factor... the buds are still smokable and such.

good luck
peace
db
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wrong. 1st off u dnt wanna use seeds from a herm because the herm could be genetic. 2nd it will do damage- pollination of yr female causing it to produce seeds, causing the plant to concentrate on seed production and not bud production. the buds are still smokeable, but not as potent, smaller yield, and who wants to deal w buds w seeds.
 
Sunbiz1 said:
For years people told me that a hermie mother will always pass along the trait, so I did a little experiment of my own. 2 years ago I had one self-pollinate all by herself outdoors. I saved the beans and used them last year, 20 to be exact. Some were grown indoors, some in the forest. The results were as follows:

16 straight female with no tendencies whatsoever to self-pollinate
3 Male
1 slight herm, and I mean slight. I found 1 seed from an entire 8 foot plant(and glad I did!).

Can we dispel with a common myth now?.
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sorry but yr experiment proves or disproves nothing. the herm trait was in all 20 of the seeds. although in yr case, the 16 female plants had the herm trait only it was a recessive trait. the 3 males had the trait, also recessive. but the slight herm's herm trait was dominant. u were lucky w the 16 females. but the herm trait was there, only it was recessive.
 
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