Day 33 Flower Defiency?

im4satori

im4satori

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Go go n chill said:
Hey I hate to jump into a post but you said you just finished one up using Foxfarm Ocean Forest and that the calcium and magnesium were the first to go ! Do you think you can look at a picture of my plants I thought it might be a fungus but I looked up calcium deficiency and I believe you hit it right on the button I'm at week six I apologize for the blurple lighting. I did post this morning in marijuana problems
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picture of entire plant and without lights
 
Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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Johnei said:
Looks a bit overfed, just going by those few pics/leaves. which would acidify the soil from builtup, and drop ph out of calcium absorption range. This just a guess. I know the soil has ph buffering in it. Just a guess on the domino effect happening.

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see soil chart right side, with lower pH, Calcium uptake is locked.
Too much fertilizer makes soil acidic, the ph buffering can only work for so much, as it keeps having to nuetralize the lower acidic ph because you have overfed, it eventually runs out and no more ph buffering and soil takes on acid ph, nutrients get locked.. after a while.. a while being, about 6weeks probably in that soil. Just a guess.

which means, probably before that 6weeks aproaches, have to add more Dol.Lime to 'sweeten' that soil.. or, maybe, add extra Dol.Lime in the first place to that soil. Just a guess. I know nothing.

or..and... Don't overfeed, the Dol.Lime will last longer because it doesn't have to nuetralize so much acid, and it will last past 6weeks. Don't overfeed. The conclusion.

Good Growing.
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Nice chart it helped! My ph coming out is 6.2-6.5 I've always ph'd my water to 6.5 which would make it hard to digest the cal/mag..... Correct?
 
Johnei

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6.5 is the line, above is good calcium uptake, in soil at 6.3 allready uptake is impeded, 6.2 6.1 6.0 Calcium is locked up. From the few small pics of leaves you showed, I would be feeding clean water with fulvic acid. Fulvic acid to help chelate any nutrient locked up n the soil and get it into the plant. The fulvic molecule is smaller than others, it fits into the plants cellular spaces getting right in. Fulvic grabs onto and bonds other nutrients into it's matrix, and even at wrong pH, will flow into the plant. Fulvic is a magic molecule. ;) My advise. then see wusup, if leaves lighten a bit and spots etc Halt in their progression, because I believe, from the very limited and few pics of your leaves I saw, you already have nutrients in the soil, they are just locked up. I would of also testing runof EC and see wusup wit that.

Good Growing.
 
Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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Johnei said:
6.5 is the line, above is good calcium uptake, in soil at 6.3 allready uptake is impeded, 6.2 6.1 6.0 Calcium is locked up. From the few small pics of leaves you showed, I would be feeding clean water with fulvic acid. Fulvic acid to help chelate any nutrient locked up n the soil and get it into the plant. The fulvic molecule is smaller than others, it fits into the plants cellular spaces getting right in. Fulvic grabs onto and bonds other nutrients into it's matrix, and even at wrong pH, will flow into the plant. Fulvic is a magic molecule. ;) My advise. then see wusup, if leaves lighten a bit and spots etc Halt in their progression, because I believe, from the very limited and few pics of your leaves I saw, you already have nutrients in the soil, they are just locked up. I would of also testing runof EC and see wusup wit that.

Good Growing.
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EC?
 
Johnei

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PPM vs EC
^Do that search on google. I cannot explain as well as you could just read quickly.
E.lectroC.onductivity
=
PPM

Good Growing. :joint:
 
Johnei

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Ok, I looked, those very lush gorgeous green leaf plants you have there. Do what I said. Water them with only Fulvic acid full strength what it says on the label, any decent brand fulvic acid will do, with just pH6.5-6.6 water. Do this for at least the next 3 waterings for that plant. Absolutely. You will thank me after. Buds will increase in size also I'm sure.

Am I seeing a different plant, with a different problem, with those bottom big fan leaves having yellow banded look to them, like stripes? Is that same plant or another?
(The plant with lower big fan leaves going yellow with stripe look to it, you need to take a full plant shot of that one to properly diagnose, bro.)
 
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Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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Johnei said:
Ok, I looked, those very lush gorgeous green leaf plants you have there. Do what I said. Water them with only Fulvic acid full strength what it says on the label, any decent brand fulvic acid will do, with just pH6.5-6.6 water. Do this for at least the next 3 waterings for that plant. Absolutely. You will thank me after. Buds will increase in size also I'm sure.

Am I seeing a different plant, with a different problem, with those bottom big fan leaves having yellow banded look to them, like stripes? Is that same plant or another?
(The plant with lower big fan leaves going yellow with stripe look to it, you need to take a full plant shot of that one to properly diagnose, bro.)
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Ruth the gray stripes running up the center? Yes same plant
 
Johnei

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{What I wrote up there is not flushing them. Fulvic acid will 'scoop' up all the nutrients you have in the soil and feed the plant, You will be watering with fulvic acid and just water, and it seems almost like flushing out shit, but it's not, you will be actually feeding the plant from whats in the soil, and the leaves build up, buds will be fatter, and tastier, not have chemicals fertilizer taste.
}
 
Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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Johnei said:
{What I wrote up there is not flushing them. Fulvic acid will 'scoop' up all the nutrients you have in the soil and feed the plant, You will be watering with fulvic acid and just water, and it seems almost like flushing out shit, but it's not, you will be actually feeding the plant from whats in the soil, and the leaves build up, buds will be fatter, and tastier, not have chemicals fertilizer taste.
}
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It won't burn them? Did you read my journal from today I did feed them today I also included Cal mag my local grow shop suggested that's what I do.
 
Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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Johnei said:
{What I wrote up there is not flushing them. Fulvic acid will 'scoop' up all the nutrients you have in the soil and feed the plant, You will be watering with fulvic acid and just water, and it seems almost like flushing out shit, but it's not, you will be actually feeding the plant from whats in the soil, and the leaves build up, buds will be fatter, and tastier, not have chemicals fertilizer taste.
}
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Thanks for all your help I'll get the fulvic acid before the next watering
 
Johnei

Johnei

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Ok, got it, I see pic. Yep, still do exactly what I said.

Good Growing!
Keep up the journal, I'll check it out later on. Purple buds are nice! ..by the way. ;)
 
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