DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow

DaGambler

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Was wondering what are your temps like ???
i'm using the 'greenhouse method of ventilation'. a 1000+ cfm fan at the peak of the room removes all excess heat not carried away by the two 400+ cfm runs (outdoor to outdoor) in the summertime indoor temps are always a few degrees cooler than outdoor temps. a large floor vent pulls from directly under the house. so if its 100 outside its about 92 inside. 90 outside would be about 84 inside. 80 outside 74 inside. No a.c. is used... more juice for me to use on lamps :D

with wintertime coming i've already pulled the ends off the (2) 400+ cfm runs and use the slightly heated air to further warm the room. eventually i'll pull the begginings off of those runs, such that the air inside the room is just circulated by the 400's and not pulled from outside. when it gets arctic cold i'll shut off the 1000 cfm room-top fan and turn on the "400 cfm" lowe's duct booster fan which will just slowly pull fresh air into the room and exhaust it into the attic. At some point i'll probably have to use the space heater again a little.
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DaGambler

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Did you drill more holes in your buckets like on the bottom or do they still contain a reservoir that holds solution?
yes, there are at least (7) 1/4" holes at the very bottom rim of each pot. no reservoir. and i'm finding that it is actually possible to overwater in perlite. i'm moving toward watering every other day. the flood height is about 5". if you can dig down one inch, pull out a piece of perlite and squeeze almost as much water out of it as there was perlite to start with ... you know ur over-watering :D
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DaGambler

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how long have those plants been in flower? I know different for each basin etc...... but each basin?

Do you move your lights up/down?

Have you considered adding in between vertical hanging lights?

will you not budge on your media?

Have you considered your air flow situation, adding CO2?

Fine tune methodology to grasp those desired weights......

Lets get you dialed in my friend....
these were trasplanted into the flower room the day the pictures were taken... i'll begin flowering in approx. 2-4 weeks.

almost added one vertical bulb in the center of the room during trichome production of the crop just harvested 2 days ago... but i was broke at the time and couldn't afford to buy and fix new wiring if i burnt out some romex :D i may or may not add a couple vertical bulbs to the center of the room at some point (as supplemental lighting to the 6k already burning).

the lights are all on chains. their current height is just the starting height, they will come down to within 12" or 18" within a couple jumps over a few days.

i'm not ready to add co2; i'd have to get a good a.c. unit and dedicate juice to that rather than to the lamps ... so i'd have to cut down on the number of bulbs i'm burning.

as far as media goes... i just did budge on it :D i went to perlite in perlite, rather than sphagnum in perlite. to me the media isn't as important as the technique that goes with it. i just have to figure out the proper technique for perlite. it is an inert media that holds a good amount of both air and water... it should do the trick.

i'm still dialing things in man. don't give up on me yet :D
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DaGambler

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Damn bro that kinda sucks...I thought with the changes you were going to have a massive yield...any idea what could be going wrong?...maybe its time to try some new strains?
the sphagnum i was using inhibited root growth, it stayed too wet. this was my first round with hydroponics... i had to tweak things a couple times. i had to realize that you have to almost completely empty the rez every 2 weeks 'cuz you can have a deficiency even with good pH and ppms. i also grew them way too tall ... and so there was not 3-dimensionality to the canopy - only a thin top layer of buds on long-arse legs.

strains? deffinitely. while manicuring last weekend i grew quite sick of how leafy a pure indica can be. that's why i went with the mix of pure sativa and a hybrid predominantly on this current round.

i'll also be starting some seeds from the breeding that i did. while the Mr. Nice is too damn leafy of a pure indica... i made sure to cross it with the Durban Poison, some White Russian, and some White Widow. I could deffinitely use some new genetics so hopefully one of the crosses works out for me. I'd love to get some purple in the mix. I'm tempted to pop over to Raiderman's and ask what his 'to die for' one and only purple pick would be. Even though i hate mail ordering stuff.
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Hulk Nugs

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Dam Gambler, i think you covered everyone great job !!!!

You told me just what i wanted to hear, i am getting excited :bigjoint:

Heres to round 4 bongsmilie, doing a great job keep it up man
 

DaGambler

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I meant round 2 in the hydro! That was a big switch in how you did things.
i see, i see.

I picked up (4) "7 Day Digital Timers" today... 2 for clone / veg and 2 for the flower room.

the revised watering schedule is once per day on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday (No watering on Tues, Thurs, Sat. or Sun.)

i believe this will allow better air in the root zone without me having to dump 8 dollars worth of H2O2 into the rez. every day to maintain optimal levels. Though i was only doing that 3 time a week or so - and i may still do so on the 3 watering days.

Perlite can stay too wet in a once a day ebb 'n flow watering schedule.
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shnkrmn

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Perlite can stay too wet in a once a day ebb 'n flow watering schedule.
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Are you using the Fox Farms big n chunky stuff? Or just regular garden center perlite? The FF is about pea/lima bean size and mostly doesn't have any small particles. I've used both and in hempy I think I prefer the smaller stuff, but in flood and drain, I'm thinking of using the big stuff or hydroton because they drain more thoroughly.
 

DaGambler

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Are you using the Fox Farms big n chunky stuff? Or just regular garden center perlite? The FF is about pea/lima bean size and mostly doesn't have any small particles. I've used both and in hempy I think I prefer the smaller stuff, but in flood and drain, I'm thinking of using the big stuff or hydroton because they drain more thoroughly.
sunshine perlite coarse grade, most of it is around pea size. people seem to like hydroton... and are able to re-use it with some effort. i've heard a 50/50 mix of coco/perlite works nicely, but i don't really want to start making visits to hydroponic stores. i don't like the distance and i don't like the price and i don't like showing up to begin with at that locale. so i'm trying to tweak the perlite to optimal use. i get it for 17 bucks for a 4 cu. ft. bag so the whole grow costs about 68 dollars as far as media goes. :blsmoke: now if i can just figure out how to use it :D
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shnkrmn

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Wow, I figured you must be using the fine stuff to feel you can overwater. my buckets with large grain always get light a couple days faster than the ones in the regular stuff. To be honest, I can't tell the difference as far as plant performance goes.:dunce:

Anyway, I'm just starting to think about going to active hydro. I need to look at some more journals for ideas. Your last set of pictures really made up my mind that it's time to change.
More, smaller plants faster is the goal.
 

DaGambler

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Originally Posted by DaGambler
did thomas jefferson really say that?

-DG


yea man, to my knowlege yes. I've seen a couple shows on the History Channel about the Founders and they elaborated that hemp was one of the most useful fibers to society in those days and it was even law that if you were a land owner you had to grow. I know they used to smoke tobacco out of pipes so then they started packing their pipes with "hemp" instead. the hemp they grew was of the ruderalis cannabis species because it grows so fast and autoflowers so it could be grown more than just once a year.

so whenever anyone gets on you about smoking, you can jusst drop on them that allllll the founders did too! haha :peace:
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jjmd

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Are you using the Fox Farms big n chunky stuff? Or just regular garden center perlite? The FF is about pea/lima bean size and mostly doesn't have any small particles. I've used both and in hempy I think I prefer the smaller stuff, but in flood and drain, I'm thinking of using the big stuff or hydroton because they drain more thoroughly.
Have you ever thought about using river rocks. medium size and smooth? I'm using them now with some sucsess. I placed some in my water to hold my air stone in place and place them around the rockwool in my basket. It seams to be helping with the water temp, it seams to be staying cooler, and with the air stone and pebbles I am getting good circulation. but Im' just a newbie so... your Opinion is more then welcome.
 

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DaGambler

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You've been busy, DaG. Hope all's duckets. :bigjoint:
yes, yes - but i've been expousing the ways of the Old Frog as i am able :D

i'd say i'm only 10 percent toward my goal at this point (of no longer growing)... but that beats 2 percent i guess. And if i could ever pull a decent crop it might bump me up to 30-40 percent there.

you know how its all just business. given the opportunity, i'm sure we'd both rather invest in a legitimate business enterprise.

bongsmilie
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Hulk Nugs

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yes, yes - but i've been expousing the ways of the Old Frog as i am able :D

i'd say i'm only 10 percent toward my goal at this point (of no longer growing)... but that beats 2 percent i guess. And if i could ever pull a decent crop it might bump me up to 30-40 percent there.

you know how its all just business. given the opportunity, i'm sure we'd both rather invest in a legitimate business enterprise.

bongsmilie
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not fallowing the percent ? like saveings ? or your only pulling 10% of what you are going for on the harvest? just took a rip so didnt understand i will keep reading it might hit me :dunce:

hmmm Legitimate business be your own boss thats the american dream :-P
 

DaGambler

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not fallowing the percent ? like saveings ? or your only pulling 10% of what you are going for on the harvest? just took a rip so didnt understand i will keep reading it might hit me :dunce:

hmmm Legitimate business be your own boss thats the american dream :-P
ja man. it's no secret... i just want to set back 40k as thats what i estimate it would cost to startup the legal business venture that i have in mind.

unfortunately, these days, pipe-dreams are about as close as most people will ever get to acheiving the american-dream.

"Sometimes ya just gotta Toss the Dice - and then leave Nothing to Chance."

- DaGambler
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Lifted1

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hey DG where you gettn that big azz bag of perlite for 17 bucks?

best i can manage is 2cu for 11 bucks so far.

thx.


also, i been experimenting with 2 gal bucket with DIY fabric pot inserted. Its workin way better to dry out the perlite. big difference. in your tray you could just rock the fabric pot. i need the buckets to catch runoff.

my larger buckets 4.25 gal of perlite/verm are showing over watering signs with one strain. smaller plants.

i think all those different strains are setn ya back as there so many inconsistent variables etc.

id def explore the weed preventer fabric pot tho. its helpn and a roll is like 15 bucks and you can make enuf to fill all those buckets or run straight. yer goin to need to sew a bit though but its easy as hell man. those smart pots are ripoffs.

sTaY lIfTeD!
 
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