Dadio's Flood and Drain closet .

bassman999

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I am using a 44" x 84 " closet but I will only be using 44" x 26 " for my growing area .View attachment 1190819At this point , I just got done slapping on a sloppy coat of flat white paint . A gallon only cost $7 and is enought to repaint 4 times .
I bought a garment rack with a zip up tent to put clothing in so that I will be able to use this closet with a locking door . I have this exact same space on the other side of the closet that will eventually become another grow area . I Just lack the funds for another light system right now .
Is flat white better than glossy, and any advantage (if space is permissible) to 3'x3' tray over the 2'x4'?
 

bassman999

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Everything looked all dry and crispy this morning so I cut the buds off the stems and put into jars.

Strain #1 ... 62 grams
Strain #2 ... 164 grams
Strain #3 ... 197 grams

That comes out to 15 ozs total for this harvest. I am very happy with that. I just love this new hobby.
Is that 15 oz from only 6 plants?
 

dadio161

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Yes , thats from six plants.
Flat white is supposed to be better on the paint job. Cheap closet paint from Home Depot.
On the grow trays , It will just depend on what space you have to work with.
I only used GH FloraMicro, and GH FloraBloom. No extra additives this grow.
 

bassman999

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Yes , thats from six plants.
Flat white is supposed to be better on the paint job. Cheap closet paint from Home Depot.
On the grow trays , It will just depend on what space you have to work with.
I only used GH FloraMicro, and GH FloraBloom. No extra additives this grow.
WOW, that is really great!

I am planning on making a new space for my next grow. Not sure if I can just paint right onto sheet rock?
I am doing my 1st grow and have 2 600's and think my plants are smaller from the never-ending mites! I hope to get 2+ oz per plant next grow like yours. Thanx for the reply.
Those HD trays are hella cheap and I might get a few of them to save $$ over the $50 real trays,.
 

dadio161

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I would love to have two 600's . I would do a grow like mine and stagger the two grows four weeks apart. That way you can harvest like this every few weeks. Yes , you can paint right onto new sheetrock . no special primer. I'm not even all that sure it makes all that much difference. I have been watching a fellow grower named Homebrewer and his walls look like wood paneling. His grow is impressive in itself. He also uses those cement mixing trays.The paint does make it easy to wash every week.
 

bassman999

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I would love to have two 600's . I would do a grow like mine and stagger the two grows four weeks apart. That way you can harvest like this every few weeks. Yes , you can paint right onto new sheetrock . no special primer. I'm not even all that sure it makes all that much difference. I have been watching a fellow grower named Homebrewer and his walls look like wood paneling. His grow is impressive in itself. He also uses those cement mixing trays.The paint does make it easy to wash every week.
I am gonna build walls and sheetrock em in my shed probably.
I was thinking 4 trays 2 per light maybe 10-12 plants per light. Sound good?
 

brownbearclan

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Awesome harvest man! Almost a freakin' elbow, good job! =D

So I've been wondering about this, on your timer for your water pump, you say you feed 2-3 times a day, so do you just set it to turn on for a couple 1/2 hour blocks then?

Also when the water pumps up, it pumps up through the shallow hole and keeps the table flooded from the pressure the pump provides correct?

I just love this setup so much, I'm literally saving up for the materials to replicate this. Peace. =)
 

bassman999

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Awesome harvest man! Almost a freakin' elbow, good job! =D

So I've been wondering about this, on your timer for your water pump, you say you feed 2-3 times a day, so do you just set it to turn on for a couple 1/2 hour blocks then?

Also when the water pumps up, it pumps up through the shallow hole and keeps the table flooded from the pressure the pump provides correct?

I just love this setup so much, I'm literally saving up for the materials to replicate this. Peace. =)
Me too.
I am buying stuff as we speak! I have just bought 2 trays and a res 2day.
 

dadio161

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My timer sets at 15 minute intervals.When your pump turns on , it will pump up water thru the 1/2 " hose. You will want to put a 3/4" hose on the overfill tube so you will not have any return restrictions. with my 2x4 tray , I use a 250 GPH pump. With the 2x3 trays , you can probably get away with the 185 GPH pump. The water will continue to fill until it reaches the overflow tube and then return back into the reservoir. If your return is too small , you could overflow. When the timer stops , water will flow back down thru the fill hose. It's really not that hard . Once you get things going, it's set it and forget it. It's so easy....I can do it.

Awesome harvest man! Almost a freakin' elbow, good job! =D

So I've been wondering about this, on your timer for your water pump, you say you feed 2-3 times a day, so do you just set it to turn on for a couple 1/2 hour blocks then?

Also when the water pumps up, it pumps up through the shallow hole and keeps the table flooded from the pressure the pump provides correct?

I just love this setup so much, I'm literally saving up for the materials to replicate this. Peace. =)
 

bassman999

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My timer sets at 15 minute intervals.When your pump turns on , it will pump up water thru the 1/2 " hose. You will want to put a 3/4" hose on the overfill tube so you will not have any return restrictions. with my 2x4 tray , I use a 250 GPH pump. With the 2x3 trays , you can probably get away with the 185 GPH pump. The water will continue to fill until it reaches the overflow tube and then return back into the reservoir. If your return is too small , you could overflow. When the timer stops , water will flow back down thru the fill hose. It's really not that hard . Once you get things going, it's set it and forget it. It's so easy....I can do it.
How high do you make the overflow? 3" maybe?
 

brownbearclan

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My timer sets at 15 minute intervals.When your pump turns on , it will pump up water thru the 1/2 " hose. You will want to put a 3/4" hose on the overfill tube so you will not have any return restrictions. with my 2x4 tray , I use a 250 GPH pump. With the 2x3 trays , you can probably get away with the 185 GPH pump. The water will continue to fill until it reaches the overflow tube and then return back into the reservoir. If your return is too small , you could overflow. When the timer stops , water will flow back down thru the fill hose. It's really not that hard . Once you get things going, it's set it and forget it. It's so easy....I can do it.
Awesome, I totally get it now! Thanks a bunch man. =)
 

dadio161

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When you buy your return fixture . They sell adapters to make taller. You wont need to flood that high tho , Rockwool soaks up water like a sponge. The roots will grow toward the bottom. When flood happens , Roots will get wet and drink. Caution tho . If you do decide to flood higher , you WILL need a bigger reservoir.

How high do you make the overflow? 3" maybe?
 

bassman999

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When you buy your return fixture . They sell adapters to make taller. You wont need to flood that high tho , Rockwool soaks up water like a sponge. The roots will grow toward the bottom. When flood happens , Roots will get wet and drink. Caution tho . If you do decide to flood higher , you WILL need a bigger reservoir.
I was just gonna run 2 hoses, one flood and one overflow and silicone them. Do I really need to do fittings etc...?
 

dadio161

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Okay . I smoke report is in order. Today I started smoking the Blueberry after being in the jar for 9 days. I find the smoke very smooth with a sweet aftertaste. Verry stony. I harvested this entire crop without doing a flush of anykind. I fed these girls right up until the night before harvest. I see no difference in my smoke. I did a good cure and that seems to be enough. As a neewbe, I am in no position to argue with veteran growers but I don't feel that a final flush is all that necessary like everybody says. Now this is just my personal opinion. I have 15 ozs of primo smoke in jars to back up my opinion. It may also help that I went easy on the nutes this grow. If anything, I would like to use this grow to to show that one can have a sucessful harvest without having to add all these other expensive additives with pretty labels. I may be a new grower , but I have been smoking a loooong time. LOL. Keep it clean and keep it simple.
 

bassman999

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Okay . I smoke report is in order. Today I started smoking the Blueberry after being in the jar for 9 days. I find the smoke very smooth with a sweet aftertaste. Verry stony. I harvested this entire crop without doing a flush of anykind. I fed these girls right up until the night before harvest. I see no difference in my smoke. I did a good cure and that seems to be enough. As a neewbe, I am in no position to argue with veteran growers but I don't feel that a final flush is all that necessary like everybody says. Now this is just my personal opinion. I have 15 ozs of primo smoke in jars to back up my opinion. It may also help that I went easy on the nutes this grow. If anything, I would like to use this grow to to show that one can have a sucessful harvest without having to add all these other expensive additives with pretty labels. I may be a new grower , but I have been smoking a loooong time. LOL. Keep it clean and keep it simple.
Nice information. I remember when I learned I dont need Monster cable brand wires and that the cheapos sound and pass the same signal. What a revelation!
 

brownbearclan

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Right on, I'm kind of a fan of not flushing too just because every other farmer in the world out there never flushes before harvest. It would also make sense that to maximize the plants potential they would need their nutrients right up until harvest.

Sounds like some awesome smoke! Looks great.

Still saving for my new setup. Although today I built what I call the Frankenballast. I took what was the guts of my old 250W HPS and built a new box for it. So now I've got that and my 400W HPS. =)
 

ish800

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yEAH, nicely detailed. I have a flood and drain wardrobe I set up and posted here but my information is not as detailed. Good stuff.
 

Dropastone

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I've been following this thread about flushing and there is quite a few people who don't see it necessary at all. So for this round I'm not gonna flush either and I'm gonna see what kinda results I get first hand. Farmers don't flush before they harvest their crops and they harvest at the peak of ripeness. So I'm thinking why would you want to take away their food source the last week or two when they need it the most.

Nice read dadio and congratulations on another successful grow.

Peace.
 

SinSimian

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Damn nice buds, dadio. I was thinking of trying a dwc grow but I may have to go ebb & flow. It's easier to get to the reservoir.
 
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