Dadio's Flood and Drain closet .

Today is day #28 of 12/12 and the girls are growing right along . Should be about 4 weeks to go . With my past grows , I managed to have one plant hermi in each grow. I am trying to prevent by not stressing plants by over feeding . I also sprayed the girls with Dutch Masters Reverse today as preventive maint. I will spray again in 10 days on the 12th . I had this anyway leftover from my last crop. On my last crop , I used this at first sign of bananas showing and I was happy with the results . The web site said I could use this to prevent hermi's too . Two of the Blueberry girls are looking a little different . They are starting to smell and look like Lemon Skunk that my neighbor is growing . Damm , can't always rely on free clones . I am going to have to actually pay for some and then clone them .

niiiice, lookin good. i have been doing a lot of research on this site and this thread is top notch bro. i picked up my flood table yesterday and ordered my 600w hps setup last night. i'm getting ansy... it's all i think about. i got some good bagseed from what i was told was bubble kush gonna start with thoose but hopefully get one or two clones right around x-mas, i can't wait until next march.

I hope that my thread has been of some help and gives you a few ideas to help you customize a grow that fits you. It not that hard . Even I can do it .I want to start making clones soon so I can keeps things moving smoother . I got lucky making my first two clones this past couple weeks . I have another thread in the Newbie Section called Dadio's Practice Cloner . https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/388984-dadios-practice-cloner.html

lltlmc said:

niiiice, lookin good. i have been doing a lot of research on this site and this thread is top notch bro. i picked up my flood table yesterday and ordered my 600w hps setup last night. i'm getting ansy... it's all i think about. i got some good bagseed from what i was told was bubble kush gonna start with thoose but hopefully get one or two clones right around x-mas, i can't wait until next march.

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yeah i saw that one too, in the coffee container. there are a few people on here that have really good informative threads and you my friend are definitley one of those people. not sure how this board works exactly but i gave you rep earlier today too

just a general question if you don't mind. my room has unfinished insulation in it and instead of putting up drywall and painting it white i think i might just staple up some mylar. any thoughts one way or the other on how either may or may not effect a grow? thanks

I'm thinking that if you put up the drywall , you will have an easier time holding consistant temps .
But then again , I think like a homeowner . If your room isn't drafty , I don't see why the mylar wouldn't work .

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just a general question if you don't mind. my room has unfinished insulation in it and instead of putting up drywall and painting it white i think i might just staple up some mylar. any thoughts one way or the other on how either may or may not effect a grow? thanks

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Id prolly throw up a layer of 6 mil plastic then mylar

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Today is day #28 of 12/12 and the girls are growing right along . Should be about 4 weeks to go . With my past grows , I managed to have one plant hermi in each grow. I am trying to prevent by not stressing plants by over feeding . I also sprayed the girls with Dutch Masters Reverse today as preventive maint. I will spray again in 10 days on the 12th . I had this anyway leftover from my last crop. On my last crop , I used this at first sign of bananas showing and I was happy with the results . The web site said I could use this to prevent hermi's too . Two of the Blueberry girls are looking a little different . They are starting to smell and look like Lemon Skunk that my neighbor is growing . Damm , can't always rely on free clones . I am going to have to actually pay for some and then clone them .

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Holy sheep shit Dadio nice man.... I went and got a 4x8 tray today from the local hydro store, and the 6x6x6 cubes just going to use a 5 gallon bucket for the rez. How high do you let the water get in the tray? Im thinkin I really need to update my 250 watt hps to atleast a 400. Do you have an exaust goin for your closet there? my closet would prolly get a bit warm. Anyways man lookin sweet rep

Dahighone , I thought that you only had a 2 x 4 space to work with . A 4 x 8 tray is rather large . Maybe a typo .
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/353164-how-figure-out-resevoir-size.html
Here is a link to figure out what size reservoir you will need . Remember to have a couple extra gallons so your pump doesn't run dry .
You might want to start a little backwards . Figure out the lights that you have to work with , and then adjust your system to work from there .
With a 400W light , you might want to use a 3 x 3 tray .
I flood my girls about 2" high . They soak up like a sponge .

Thanks for the link.... That helps me decide on a res size.

I'm going to read through the thread again, to find out if I missed the flood duration and how often to flood (veg and flower).

Tried to rep+ you, but it said I had to spread the love before I could rep you again.

Thanks again

Hmmm just curious, You said that you flood yours 2 inches and your plants suck it right up. Although, In the link you provided the calculations are for a 4 inch flood. So is a 4" flood really needed? Or does the flood depend on how many plant's you have on your flood table?

You should already know I'm thinking about switching to a flood and drain so I'm just trying to pick your brain a little.

Your calculations for a 3X6 flood table with a 4" flood.

Reservoir size required (gal) = ((3’ x 12) x (6’ x 12) x 4”) x 0.0043
= 36” x 72” x 4” x 0.0043
= 45 gallons (minimum)

These would be my calculations for a 3X3 flood table.

Reservoir size required (gal) = ((3’ x 12) x (3’ x 12) x 4&#8221 x 0.0043
= 36” x 36” x 4” x 0.0043
= 22.292 gallons (minimum) Is this correct?

Your calculations are correct . I think that the guy who originally gave me this formula had intended it a 4" flood because at one time he was using hydroton rocks and needed the 4" . With just the Rockwool blocks , I didn't feel the need to flood so deep . Granted that with Hydroton you will have more room for roots to spread , but you will not be able to move the girls around. You can also use Rockwool slabs but will run into the same problem . I guess you just have to decide what you want and what will work best for you . I might try the 8" blocks my next grow. Oh , back to the reservoir . With these calculations for the reservoir , by flooding only 2" , my blocks absorb the food they need and I don't have to worry about my res. getting low if I need to leave for a day . With a flood system, you can NEVER let your pump run dry . It will burn out . Now with you needing about 22 gallons , you can buy a reservoir from a hydro store or get a 27 gallon black tote from Home Depot . The one from Home Depot is only $12 . It is a black tote with a yellow lid . This is a good one as it is rigid and will hold the water .

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhf/R-100672734/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Here's a link for the tote . This will help keep cost down .

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Hmmm just curious, You said that you flood yours 2 inches and your plants suck it right up. Although, In the link you provided the calculations are for a 4 inch flood. So is a 4" flood really needed? Or does the flood depend on how many plant's you have on your flood table?

You should already know I'm thinking about switching to a flood and drain so I'm just trying to pick your brain a little.

Your calculations for a 3X6 flood table with a 4" flood.

Reservoir size required (gal) = ((3’ x 12) x (6’ x 12) x 4”) x 0.0043
= 36” x 72” x 4” x 0.0043
= 45 gallons (minimum)

These would be my calculations for a 3X3 flood table.

Reservoir size required (gal) = ((3’ x 12) x (3’ x 12) x 4&#8221 x 0.0043
= 36” x 36” x 4” x 0.0043
= 22.292 gallons (minimum) Is this correct?

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So how many gallons do you actually use between res changes? I think you said you use a 18 gallon tote so how many gallons are your ladies actually using out or the 18 per week?

I usually use up about 8 to 9 gallons and then I change it out . Takes about 7 to 9 days . Sometimes I gotta take care of family too .

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/358562-dyna-gro-vs-general-hydroponics.html

Here is a link to another grower who use the same type of set up . This guy knows his shit . His grow blows mine away . Gotta give him a plus rep for his experience and professional attitude .

yeah I followed that thread from the beginning, Homebrewer is the man. That's why I switched from GH to Dyna Gro. I always had terrible pH fluctuations with the GH. So I decided to move on and try the DG. So far I love the it, my pH has never been so stable.

That's good to know about the water consumption because I wanted to know how much water I would actually be going through a week. I make my own water with a distiller because my tap is unusable @ around 650 to 950 PPM. As the seasons change the ppm changes and I have no idea why that is. It takes me 5 days to make 25 gallons of water. It sounds like if I decide to go flood and drain I'll be making water constantly. Hmmm I may have to think a little longer about making the switch. With DWC I was using about 10 gal a week and since I switched to soil this time around I'm only using about 5 gallons every cpl of weeks.

Anyway thanks for the info dadio.

Check ya later.

dadio161 said:

Dahighone , I thought that you only had a 2 x 4 space to work with . A 4 x 8 tray is rather large . Maybe a typo .
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/353164-how-figure-out-resevoir-size.html
Here is a link to figure out what size reservoir you will need . Remember to have a couple extra gallons so your pump doesn't run dry .
You might want to start a little backwards . Figure out the lights that you have to work with , and then adjust your system to work from there .
With a 400W light , you might want to use a 3 x 3 tray .
I flood my girls about 2" high . They soak up like a sponge .

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4foot by 8 inches sry

ok got my ebb and flow system up and going today. I have 4 bubba kush clones ill be starting a journal with. going for guiness world record smallest clone lol the smallest one was only 1 inch from roots to tip... but she has the healthiest roots oddly enough. Thumbnails are my 2'x4' flowering closet day 34 of flower

hey dadio I got a ? I have my tray set up and working nicely... I put my clones in yesterday and I have it set at 1 , 15 minute flood a day.... well my cubes are still heavy from yesterdays flood, should I wait to flood them again until the blocks are light? or just let it refresh the blocks at 24 hours?

wow , I'll probably catch shit for this answer from someone but I would still flood once a day after light first come on . I would flood so as get fresh oxygen moving across the roots. I also would keep a fans blowing across the girls to keep lots of fresh air moving up top. You should start to notice the roots coming out the bottom of the blocks in about 7 to 10 days.

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wow , I'll probably catch shit for this answer from someone but I would still flood once a day after light first come on . I would flood so as get fresh oxygen moving across the roots. I also would keep a fans blowing across the girls to keep lots of fresh air moving up top. You should start to notice the roots coming out the bottom of the blocks in about 7 to 10 days.

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right on man thx