Cutting clones to determine sex.

Guino

Member
I would like to sex my plants. Can I just take cuttings put them in a glass of water with some nasty ass Clonex on the stem and put that into my flower tent? Im going to kill the clones as soon as they show sex. I got some hermies in the flower tent. Should I let them root a few days? Should I plug them into soil? They are just going to be used to show sex, and I don't mind if they are in the process of dieing when they do.

Should I build a little bubble cloner instead and put that in the flower tent. I have soil to spare right now. I can't really spend any money. The Clonex was a hustle from the grow shop who recommended it for clones. Those bastards knew what I was using it for, and still sold me a poison that isn't legal to use on consumable crops. They don't do exchanges without receipt either, though it is only a small little sample size pouch that was like four bucks. Wouldn't mind just using that for sexing. I wouldn't dream of putting that garbage or any other toxic nute on anything that I would actually use to medicate.

I will make better clones before I switch the moms (hopefully) to flower.
 

wheels619

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relax with the clonex man. it is only used for rooting. ur plant has its whole life to filter all that shit out of its system. i use it and have never fallen over and died. plus most of the weed sold to dispensories was cloned with some sort of cloning solution unless they used fem seeds.

and yes they should survive in the glass of water long onough to show sex.
 

Guino

Member
I do realize that the dispensaries use it, I find it appalling though that they would not be shut down for using banned chemicals though. These guys should be hanged if they sell poison to people.
 

wheels619

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hmm. i personally think its all up to the person. they should educate themselve before buying if they are so worried about it. also good luck.
 

scroglodyte

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I do realize that the dispensaries use it, I find it appalling though that they would not be shut down for using banned chemicals though. These guys should be hanged if they sell poison to people.
Kraft, Monsanto, McDonalds.........do you eat those? lol
we have more poison in us, than a clonex'd cutting.
 

Cooter@666

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Research "honey" as a root compound if your that worried about it, most cloning powders and gels contain butyric acid which also occurs naturally. It’s safe to use, if you’re not into to it try using honey as an alternative
 

hyphae

Member
I would put the clones in a seven dollar humidity dome to keep humidity up while they are in the flowering area. The clonex is fine to use, it also has vitamin b-1 which will help reduce the stress of harvesting the cutting.....
 

mipainpatient

Active Member
RE: Clonex:
you can find IBA on amazon (pure which you mix down--get b1 or whatever and add too) for about the same price as a clonex jar that has probably 1/100th the IBA in it....just puttin that out there, id imagine Ebay has people sellin it too,
MPP
p.s. also didn't realize that was crystal violet in the 'nex....all too familiar with that stuff from gram staining.
 

Guino

Member
Thanks for all the good advice people. I think that I will try the honey for my next batch of clones. I cut these 7 days ago, and just placed them into shot glasses to see whats up. One may possibly be female. Im still waiting to be sure on everything. My last batch of Silver Haze didnt start showing their femininty for 10 days. I may have screwed up though and not waited for preflowers to form on all my plants. Though the Jack the Rippers have been above dirt 5 weeks, and the Pandoras Box 3.5 weeks now.

As for the Clonex. It is scary to use products that the FDA lists as harmful. Even with the plant greatly increasing in size, and spreading that out. It's just scary. If the honey works faster then plain water, and a little slower then Clonex, yet is apparently totally safe, then that will be my prefered way. I will definetly post a thread on the results of honey as a cloning gel. The clones in plain water that got 12/12 from the moment they were cut, have not developed roots on their 6th day. Though they still are all looking great and only one has leaves losing their turgidity, though it has some thick leaves that should have been trimmed a little.

Thanks again for the advice.
 

typoerror

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By Ed Rosenthal - Tuesday, September 23 2003

How soon can I force-flower my clones after cutting?

I have cloned my plants to determine sex. Do I need to wait until the clones have roots before forcing them to flower? How many hours of light should I give them daily to get the earliest flowering?
Cbucki,
Internet

You can force the cuttings to flower as soon as you cut them. These are throw-away clones since they will have already started flowering at only a few inches in height. However, they will start rooting as they turn from vegetative to flowering. If you give them 10 hours of light and 14 hours of uninterrupted darkness, the clones will indicate faster than if given the standard 12-12 light/darkness schedule. Depending on variety and conditions, cuttings will reveal their gender in seven days to two weeks on a 12-12 cycle. On a 10-14 cycle, the time will be reduced by a few days and you'll also save on electricity.


http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/3102.html
 

luvtogrow

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I might be misunderstanding the sexing issue. But, if you have a plant big enough to clone from, it's most likely showing sex by preflower already. I grow everything from seed, have never cloned, though am ready to clone mr nice SSH next grow. For over 10 years indoor growing and sexing in veg by preflower using a 7x eyelupe, have never had any strain or any plant take longer than 4 weeks from seed pop to show sex, 90% show at week 3 from seed pop, have had them show as early as 12 days from seed pop, depends on how healthy they are. Current grow, 5 strains, all showed one day after xplant week 3 from seed pop, didn't even need the eyelupe, can see them sticking up like pico's on the back of a toothbrush, just behind the bracts.
Hybrids, sativas, indicas, all show early in veg. Years ago on overgrow, peeps would always post back, depends on strain and sativas show later, many 100's of strains later can tell you, they all show early in veg.
 

lovemug

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Can you sorce any information on clonex being bad? I would love to read more but cant find much on google.
 

Guino

Member
Ok so after 13 days, the clones that I cut and just put in shot glasses with dechlorinated water, are only barely starting to get little preflowers. Though, as of today two are showing roots. Funny thing is that of the four clones that I took, two of the moms, Jack the Ripper, have sprouted beautiful pistols from its preflowers. One Pandoras box, sprung some balls, so I tryed to kill it, but then put the whole thing into the already full flower tent to just make sure. I did trim it a little to fit. The other Pandora is likely a male also, by the preflowers, but Im not letting myself believe 100%. I will watch it with the 30X hand lends that I got the other day. I really wanted two strains, but should have planted more then four seeds. That's what I could afford. Though I still have 3 more Jack the Ripper seeds from my five pack left to plant. Should go down to Tucson soon and hit up the Az Grow Op Co Op again. The guy had the whole lineup of TGA seeds. Pretty amazing for Tucson, and looking at the blizzard outside right now, Tucson sounds like a good weekend.
 

Guino

Member
Love Mug, I'm basing my judgement of Clonex off the info written on the back of the bottle. There is a warning saying that Clonex is not allowed to be used on consumable agricultural crops. A Dept of Agriculture GS-12 told me not to use anything that has that warning. Any toxin could be in it if it says that. It is only meant for ornamentals. Also the warnings about going to the hospital if any gets on your skin, or if you inhale the vapors, kind of worry me.
 
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