Crazy Mother F#cking Growing Experements

For a long time I have shoplifted knowledge off of the great RIU members like an asshole. After my first grow I have decided to take the plunge and join. Ganga Farmers are the salt of the earth and +rep to every god damn one of you.

Anyways...

I have seen countless threads that ask "what if you tried...."
and then some crazy ass thing some person told them they did, or someone they know's friend did, or someone they know knows some on who once had an uncle who did this wild ass shit...

The only way to know the validity of these experimental ideas is if you try it yourself, and that first hand knowledge is somehow much more valuable of an asset then a secondhand experience. Its definitly more respectable than just reading it.

But shit, some people don't have the time, resources or would just like to avoid a growing catastrophe and hearing someone else's firsthand breakthrough success (or falure) could greatly help.

If you feel generous enough to post, please share with us an experiment YOUheard about, tried and the results. If YOU have done it please let us know- It can be as simple as some weird ass lighting schedule or as complicated as a nutrient blend you concocted out of coconut milk and twinkys. Scientific arguements are welcomed but results are what were looking for. Ill start...

Rumor-

I had heard that if you put your plants into 36 hours of uninteruppeted darkness the plant will be tricked into flowering quicker than if you just change the lights back to 12/12

Test-

three plants growing from same bagseed, before flower one was put into the closet for 36 hrs and the other 2 were just changed to 12/12

Results-

The experimental plant flowered one week sooner than the other two

yes a lot of people have tried this and have said it works.

greenhouse seeds recommends reducing light down to 8 hours in the last weeks or two on strains such as white widow. they say this will stress the plant to produce more resin. I do not know how or why or even if this works.
i will try it out tho

i ve heard of 72 hours of total darkness before HARVEST.

8 hours eh? Sounds like an interesting experiment, lets here some results.

No worries about how and why it works, science is complicated, who the fuck really knows.

The bible shows those pics with the nug that had sugar added and the one that didn't with some text that said something about increasing yield by 20%...ill be a horses ass if i didn't research and try the sugar idea; two packets of starbucks pure hawaiian cane to be exact. But the book didnt say how or why it increased the yield by 20%, nothing about feeding the microbials in the soil and allowing them to do some scientific shit i cant expliain that helps the plants use nitrogen more efficiently. I let a friend borrow my copy of the bible but if I can recall correctly it says something about giving the plant energy. Giving the plant energy? Who gives a shit about how or why, for 20% id read my plants tony robbins books to energize them. Fuck, for 25% id jazzersize them.

This is the experimet I want to do:

Which one gives you more vegetative growth: 12/12 hours under 1000 watt hps with some 5 minutes lighting interval every 60 minutes during dark period (consuming about 560 watt in totall )

or

20/4 under 600 watt HPS which is about 500 watt in total.

but first I need to harvest all my crop that takes about two month but I really liked your approach, I have some more experimental ideas to share if you are interested.

12/12 will set your plants to flowering, so i dont really understand how that will give you more veg growth

good thread man. good to hear the positive results of 36 hours of darkness before flowering. will definately be doing that now.

I don't have an expirement, but I know a weird way to increase the speed and the overall amount of vegetative growth. Get some type of thin wire like copper, nickel, etc. and five or six small or medium sized magnets. Connect a magnet to one end of a piece of wire ( you can tape it or do whatever you see fit) then do the same to the other end of the wire with another magnet. Keep doing this with new segments of wire until you run out of magnets. You should now have a line of wire, magnet, wire, magnet, etc. Bend this wire into a cirlcular shape and connect the two ends. Place this magnetic circle around your plant. Preferably around the roots.

The magnetic field that is created aids in the ionization process that takes place in the roots. That is the theory anyways. I am sure this works though. Google "the effects of magnetic fields on plant growth". It is pretty interesting stuff.

wow, that is a very involved, very scientific growth experiment, i would love to see this one action as well.

not to be that guy but its probably like the magnets people swear are helping them out because they wear them in their headbands. unless you got rare earth magnets, there probably wouldn't be a huge difference in the magnetic field. but if you're going about it scientifically and whatnot I sure wouldn't mind checking out the data gathered

without dreamers and experiments we'd still be living in caves, so godspeed!

holmes said:

12/12 will set your plants to flowering, so i dont really understand how that will give you more veg growth

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If you give your plant just a few minutes of light during the dark cycle ( like I said 5 minutes every 60 minutes of dark period) then your plant will stay in vegetative state( this experiment has been proven before.

now , 1000 watt hps gives you 126000 lumen

600 watt hps gives you 76000 lumen


in 12/12 version you give your plant about 13 hours of 126000 lumen lets say 126000 *13/24 = 68000 lumen

in 20/4 version you give your plant

76000*20/24=63000 lumen so they are close but using 1000 watt gives you more depth to have more buds in lower branch further in the flowering state than 600 watt ( the difference in depth of active light penetration is huge ) so this is what i meant .

5 min every hour huh. would and could you post where this is proven to increase veg growth

holmes said:

5 min every hour huh. would and could you post where this is proven to increase veg growth

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i said keeping them in vegtetive state is possible I did NOT say it gives you more growth( thats what i am trying to do bro) but about the keeping them in vegetative state i can refer you to Skunk magazine vol 5 ,issue 1 page 42 . they kept their outdoor plants in vegetative state by just spraying a few minutes of light a few times during the night when the light period naturally was less than 12 hours.

Yours

Satica

In an old mag I have there are pics of plants in full bloom in July in Canada, they continue to flower despite getting 16 hours a day of sun. The article states that to do this the plants are selected to be early flowerers and probably heavy indica, then they are flowered at 12/12 inside for four weeks. When the plants are in full flower mode, they get hardened off to be outside in full sun to finish flowering.
My idea is to see if this light regime can be done indoors, up the Lights On time after 4 weeks of flower. I think it would either speed up the ripening date or there would be more bud mass.

I dont think it will speed up the ripening but adding the weight yess, then you need to calculate how more weeks you need to put more for your plants . It seems some plants can go to flowering when the light is about 15 hours but light cycle should be in decreasing order every week .

if someone knows this or would like to try it please post the results. i want to see what happens when u dont let the plant have a constant circadian rithim. for instance 3 days with 20 hours "cycle" then three days with 25 hours then three days with 15 hours. just thought it would be a cool experiment. ill try that on my next grow, but itll be a while til results.

i have been starting a seed every week to see if i can make all female plants with high nitrogen and cold temps.


the first 3 plants are female


i dont know if its just luck we will see as the next batch is close to showing.

weedyoo said:

i have been starting a seed every week to see if i can make all female plants with high nitrogen and cold temps.


the first 3 plants are female


i dont know if its just luck we will see as the next batch is close to showing.

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thats a cool idea to follow .

pieces of garlic buried in the plant pots with your plants can prevent some bacteria, rot, and some pests. Apperently does not effect plants flavor or anything.

-I have not tried this- just heard of it, my plants are healthy so can't realy test

i said keeping them in vegtetive state is possible I did NOT say it gives you more growth( thats what i am trying to do bro) but about the keeping them in vegetative state i can refer you to Skunk magazine vol 5 ,issue 1 page 42 . they kept their outdoor plants in vegetative state by just spraying a few minutes of light a few times during the night when the light period naturally was less than 12 hours.

Yours

Satica

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oh ic, will you be trying this soon?