Couple of question/concerns WITH PICTURES!!

datkid

Member
OK heres the situation:
-Plants are clones
-sour desiel
-Lighting is Compact Fluorescent, 24/0
-Not exact but the temperatures are about lower 70's day and not much lower at night.
-one im concerned about has been rooted for about 3 weeks now. the soil is a coco fiber-based potting soil. The plant im concerned about is mostly healthy, but its not very 'perky'. I do not over water and have only fertilized once.. i wait about 6 days in between waterings (make sure the soil is fairly dry before giving next watering/ferts.) Also i dont underwater either. It droops a noticeable amount about an hour before lights out and yes i do know thats normal. But the fan leaves kinda droop down i think they call it the claw. Pretty much my main concern is that its not perky like the other one thats the same strain, in the same area, and ive done the same nurturing. The shorter one has been rooted for a week less the the bigger one. Ill let you look at the pic and let me know what you think..
The last picture shows the comparison of what im talking about.
 

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theonetitty

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different strains grow differently. to me, one looks like an indica and one a sativa. i based that solely on the shape/size of the leaves.

ive seen a lot of guys on here with plants that have large leaves like that, that are droopy all the time...
 

ayanami

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Do you spray the leaves regularly? That would sure make them droopy, but you probably know that. 6 days between waterings seems too long considering that your pots really aren't all that big and your plants look big enough to drink like the grown-ups now. If your soil is staying wet that long I would imagine the roots are having some troubles. Is that soil really heavy or something? If so you might wanna repot them into a lighter mix. Also you could try adding some hydrogen peroxide along with your watering to ensure that those roots are getting enough oxygen!
 

datkid

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Thanks ayanami I believe you hit it riiiiight on the nose. I actually didn't know that spraying the leaves often would do that, as I am spraying them about 2 times per day. I thought that was ok to spray that much in veg. The soil is pretty light I just make sure it needs it but not starve, I saw a seasoned grower say that and when I tried it on my last grow instead of how I did it on the one before that( every 3 or so days) the results were beyond Noticably better.
 

ayanami

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sweet dude I hope that solves the problem! Ya my soil is always completely dry before my next watering too. I guess 6 days isn't that long, and I water much less frequently during veg when the humidity is way up, come to think of it. I stick with smaller pots too, so when my girls get big they need water much more frequently.

Good luck with that grow brotha!
 

datkid

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Yea I'm gonna be repotting into something bigger soon. I have another question tho I stopped spraying but it still sometimes droops. Almost all of the stems are purple and I think that means cooler temps, correct me if I'm wrong but would that have anything to do with it?? But the weird thing is my other plants stems aren't nearly as purple only a few purple lines and they don't droop so how would one be effected by temps but not the other (IF THATS THE PROBLEM). So what's up and some causes of purple stems. Or will it take a few days to come back from spraying twice a day?.?.
 

ayanami

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I dunno what your soil is like right now but let it dry and keep it dry for a good day or two and see if those leaves stop drooping. Dry that girl out completely is what I'm saying, and hopefully she'll perk up.

BTW what's your ph looking like? I had one before that had droopy leaves in veg and I was wondering what the hell was going on (I wasn't misting or anything); sure enough a few days later I got a couple brown spots - the ph was off a bit! After I fixed it the leaves stopped drooping and the spotting stopped too. You probably know this, but just in case, anytime something funny is going on with your babies you gotta check that ph! I'm trying to think about other stuff that can cause drooping leaves. I don't imagine you're rootbound if your soil stays wet for more than a day. Low humidity can certainly make them droop too (sounds backwards but its true).

Let's keep this thread open to see if anyone else has got some ideas for ya.

Purple stems are usually no big deal (unless the main stem is purple); everybody gets purple stems on fans leaves from time to time. Sometimes their appearance can indicate a nutrient deficiency, but more often it just turns out to be some harmless crap that happens. I definitely heard people say that cool temps can bring out some purple in plants, but I have no idea if its true, and I think they were talking about leaves or buds, not stems. In any case, I have a feeling once you get this droopy leaf thing under control the purple stems will lessen. Maybe they're just water-logged or something, ya know?

When it comes to clones, some are just more resilient than others. I mean since they're clones they'll all have the same buds as mom, and they will have the same types of resistances and stuff, but to what degree is determined by whether they are good clones, so-so clones, or puny little shit clones. It might not be visible while rooting, but once they hit that soil or flood tray it won't be long before you know which ones are which. But even the puny shits will be inherently good if they come from a good mom; they will probably need a bit more attention though.

PS: I'm not saying droopy is a bad clone or anything. It looks very healthy in the pics!

phew!
 

datkid

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Dammmn I hate this. I know it's not a major problem but Somethings off. I have been checking the ph it's around 5.5-6.5. Also a good part of my main stem is purple?!? I JUST check the pot abd roots are coming out of the bottom so I think that might be the problem. But not like to the point the holes are completely sealed w/ roots coming out but it's noticable so I'm going to transplant tomorrrow. The new leaves sprouting on top are a liiiiight green. I know they usually are but these are more then normally light.
 

ayanami

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ya I got one right now I was planning on making a mom but some of her main stem is purple. She wasn't doing too good, like barely growing at all. She seems to be growing out of it now though, but I might trash her anyways; maybe I'll take a cut from her and try again - it all depends on how well my aurora turns out (I'll know that in like 2 weeks). I dunno wtf causes this condition.
 

datkid

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YES i did notice there some type of powder on the leaves! i stopped foliar spray so will it go away?!?! also i transplanted into a 5 gallon pot yesterday and when i took it out of the small one the roots were definitely looking for more, there was quite a bit of roots all around the bottom. so will the powdery mildew go away??. or how can i make it go away?? its not a whole bunch, you actually have to look real close to see it?
 

crazeehaze

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purple stems can be several things. potassium deficiency, low temps at night, to high temp drop from day too night, even genetics can cause some purple stems during different stages of growth. normally either seedling stage or late flowering.
 

ayanami

Member
if you got pm it probably won't go away on its own. Milk is supposed to work very well for that stuff; try like 1 part milk to nine or ten parts water (look it up first though cause I never did this before) and only use skim milk. Ironically your gonna have to spray it on your leaves!
 

crazeehaze

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first of all. i actually think its dust rather than powdery mildew but need picture too confirm that. if you had powdery mildew you would see that something is wrong from the get go.

powdery mildew often show as white circular spots like 1 cm diameter. if you have theese spots on your leaves the disease has allready been inside your plant for a week atleast.
prevent this disease by keeping your shit clean, allow good ventilation between plants and avoid cool damp and dim growroom conditions. allow foliage to dry before lights go out.

if this disease gets a foothold on your foliage you may have too treat it with a mix of water\baking soda and spray on foliage. this spray dries too fine powder on your foliage and changes foliage PH to 7 wich powdery mildew cannot grow in. ( i have not done this myself so dont know the exact ratio water\baking soda)

but as i said.. i think you have dust on your puppies :P
 
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