Cornfield Collaboration?

Does growing in a cornfield seem like a good idea?

  • Fuck you

    Votes: 4 40.0%

  • I like corn

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • Great idea! I'm stealing it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Stupid idea. You can't see even 3 moves ahead, can you?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Bring back Pinworm! I'm not voting until this is happens...

    Votes: 6 60.0%

  • Unclebuck touched me again, and I'm starting to like it

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • A little bit of the Ol' Shit Stomp

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Total voters
    10
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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So, I've been thinking recently about Illinois' immense cornfields, and how they would be such a great place to grow weed. What a brilliant idea! I googled it and lo and behold, it happens all the time, everywhere. I've come to learn that after the planting of the corn, most farmers never step foot into the fields until harvest time. The nutes, irrigation, sunlight, everything is automated. Plus, cornfields are unpleasant to travel through (sharp leaves, pollen, pests, etc.), and they are planted in rows, so weed rows hidden among corn rows is very difficult to detect from the air. Weed is ready to harvest before corn, as well.

When many farmers come across MJ in their fields, they simply call LEO and face no consequences, as obviously they did not plant it. LEO sometimes stakes the place out for a day or two, and if the grower doesn't show up, they simply destroy the plants at a State facility. Investigation over. I'm sure many farmers must plant weed among their crops, and if anyone found out, they simply claim, "those dirty hippie growers are at it again, goddamn it!" But they stand to make far more from a little patch of weed than from the rest of the cornfield. Many small farmers these days have to have other day jobs to make ends meet, the crops alone don't pay all of the bills. While stoned on a road trip recently, I asked my buddy what he thought my success rate would be to propose to a bunch of small, local farmers a plan whereby I would plant and completely maintain a small weed patch amongst their corn. If I'm caught, he can have complete deniability, but if we harvest, we'll split 60/40 me. Or something like that. He stated that he thought maybe 10% would take me up on it, but another 20% would contact LEO about the proposition. He may be right, but what a great, low-risk situation to make money for all involved. Okay, your thoughts. What am I missing???


http://fox2now.com/2015/09/15/farmer-finds-marijuana-plants-while-harvesting-his-corn-crop/

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/the-secret-pot-growing-operations-in-americas-cornfields/375913/
 
420God

420God

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Happens all the time. Even driving by some of the fields up here in WI around September you'd think a skunk was run over. I wouldn't just ask some random farmer though, get to know them first.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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420God said:
Happens all the time. Even driving by some of the fields up here in WI around September you'd think a skunk was run over. I wouldn't just ask some random farmer though, get to know them first.
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Right, that would be the hard part. I could spend a couple nights at the local honky-tonk bar and befriend a few farmers. Maybe my car will break down and I'll have to spend the night at their place. I know from many, many jokes not to touch their daughters. That never seems to end well...
 
rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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We do the same thing here in Maui, but it's sugar cane fields instead of corn and nobody asks permission or makes proposals to the sugar cane company, ha ha.

If you can get some farmer's permission that would be cool if not we'll then you might choose to do it anyway. Just don't mess up the irrigation lines when you're digging. You'll flood the area and if you don't kill some part of the field because of over watering you'll waste a lot of water and they actually might notice a bunch of water continuously running and go looking for it, either way it's messed up because we shouldn't be imposing on the farmer's income and they'll probably keep a sharper eye out for growers too. I don't know how they irrigate corn fields, but here with the sugar cane they run the black irrigation line with drippers. If it's the same you plant near the drippers without cutting through the irrigation line.

If you choose to go the route without permission it will be really helpful if you have someone you can partner with. Someone drives, the other gets dropped off with starts to plant and the driver comes back to pick up the planter when he's done and you repeat that idea when you're checking for males and harvesting. It can be done solo too, but you got to find somewhere that's not conspicuous to park.

And I'd pick a few different spots if you can in case one or more spots gets found. If you're growing from seed you should figure on getting about 25% to harvest of what you plant after accounting for males, pests, law enforcement and rippers, at least that's about the right estimate when growing in cane fields so you don't get heart broken when you only harvest 25 out of 100 plants. Obviously those numbers could be different if growing from clones or if you have permission to do it and can frequently check on your plants.

If you don't get permission, plant 1000 and just check on them a couple times until harvest, ha ha.
 
rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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And if you have aerial eradication there, then plant 5 in a row spaced with the drippers or whatever way you want, then walk 20 yards (or whatever) move overy 3 rows and plant 5 more and repeat. It makes it less obvious. Even if they find some of them they might not spot them all. You can repeat that pattern top to bottom all through the field. And if you don't quite remember where you started it shouldn't be too hard to find them all if you have a fairly set, but non-obvious, pattern.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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rikdabrick said:
We do the same thing here in Maui, but it's sugar cane fields instead of corn and nobody asks permission or makes proposals to the sugar cane company, ha ha.

If you can get some farmer's permission that would be cool if not we'll then you might choose to do it anyway. Just don't mess up the irrigation lines when you're digging. You'll flood the area and if you don't kill some part of the field because of over watering you'll waste a lot of water and they actually might notice a bunch of water continuously running and go looking for it, either way it's messed up because we shouldn't be imposing on the farmer's income and they'll probably keep a sharper eye out for growers too. I don't know how they irrigate corn fields, but here with the sugar cane they run the black irrigation line with drippers. If it's the same you plant near the drippers without cutting through the irrigation line.

If you choose to go the route without permission it will be really helpful if you have someone you can partner with. Someone drives, the other gets dropped off with starts to plant and the driver comes back to pick up the planter when he's done and you repeat that idea when you're checking for males and harvesting. It can be done solo too, but you got to find somewhere that's not conspicuous to park.

And I'd pick a few different spots if you can in case one or more spots gets found. If you're growing from seed you should figure on getting about 25% to harvest of what you plant after accounting for males, pests, law enforcement and rippers, at least that's about the right estimate when growing in cane fields so you don't get heart broken when you only harvest 25 out of 100 plants. Obviously those numbers could be different if growing from clones or if you have permission to do it and can frequently check on your plants.

If you don't get permission, plant 1000 and just check on them a couple times until harvest, ha ha.
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Excellent suggestions! I believe the irrigation is done from overhead as I've seen huge, automated sprinkling devices. I'd be growing from clones of awesome phenos, that sounds like half the battle. Go Joe!
 
ChingOwn

ChingOwn

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tyler.durden said:
Excellent suggestions! I believe the irrigation is done from overhead as I've seen huge, automated sprinkling devices. I'd be growing from clones of awesome phenos, that sounds like half the battle. Go Joe!
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Here wetbacks are constantly patrolling the fields..no shit they drive up and down the canal roads 24/7
 
2ANONYMOUS

2ANONYMOUS

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tyler.durden said:
So, I've been thinking recently about Illinois' immense cornfields, and how they would be such a great place to grow weed. What a brilliant idea! I googled it and lo and behold, it happens all the time, everywhere. I've come to learn that after the planting of the corn, most farmers never step foot into the fields until harvest time. The nutes, irrigation, sunlight, everything is automated. Plus, cornfields are unpleasant to travel through (sharp leaves, pollen, pests, etc.), and they are planted in rows, so weed rows hidden among corn rows is very difficult to detect from the air. Weed is ready to harvest before corn, as well.

When many farmers come across MJ in their fields, they simply call LEO and face no consequences, as obviously they did not plant it. LEO sometimes stakes the place out for a day or two, and if the grower doesn't show up, they simply destroy the plants at a State facility. Investigation over. I'm sure many farmers must plant weed among their crops, and if anyone found out, they simply claim, "those dirty hippie growers are at it again, goddamn it!" But they stand to make far more from a little patch of weed than from the rest of the cornfield. Many small farmers these days have to have other day jobs to make ends meet, the crops alone don't pay all of the bills. While stoned on a road trip recently, I asked my buddy what he thought my success rate would be to propose to a bunch of small, local farmers a plan whereby I would plant and completely maintain a small weed patch amongst their corn. If I'm caught, he can have complete deniability, but if we harvest, we'll split 60/40 me. Or something like that. He stated that he thought maybe 10% would take me up on it, but another 20% would contact LEO about the proposition. He may be right, but what a great, low-risk situation to make money for all involved. Okay, your thoughts. What am I missing???


http://fox2now.com/2015/09/15/farmer-finds-marijuana-plants-while-harvesting-his-corn-crop/

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/the-secret-pot-growing-operations-in-americas-cornfields/375913/
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Although i have grown out door in corn fields and plants do well only problem is cows ten to get more high then you see 90 percent of the time they will harvest the corn well before your plants are done ,, so cows get the benifit of you growing it out there hahaha

Why do pot plants do well in corn fields ? triple 19 fertilizer `19 - 19 -19
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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abe supercro said:
Forfeiture laws. Not worth it for farmer. You can only do this without their permission or knowledge.
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Forfeiture laws? Does that mean they lose the MJ plants or the entire field of crops? It seems to me that the farmer could state that they haven't even been out there if plants are found. It was the fault of those fuckin' guerrilla growers again. At least that's what I've been reading...
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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2ANONYMOUS said:
Although i have grown out door in corn fields and plants do well only problem is cows ten to get more high then you see 90 percent of the time they will harvest the corn well before your plants are done ,, so cows get the benifit of you growing it out there hahaha

Why do pot plants do well in corn fields ? triple 19 fertilizer `19 - 19 -19
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That seems to be the problem then. I read that MJ plants can be done before the corn harvest, but you're saying that's not the case, correct?
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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unfortunately it means they lose the crop, the field, their home and probably every other asset they have. the carrot is so big and corrupt with forfeiture laws, it is widely abused by authorities. look into it, it's rather gnarly. plausible deniability just isn't enough to stand on with with a farmer's assets at stake. no farmer would agree to cannabis until it's legal.

KY has launched a legal hemp program.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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abe supercro said:
unfortunately it means they lose the crop, the field, their home and probably every other asset they have. the carrot is so big and corrupt with forfeiture laws, it is widely abused by authorities. look into it, it's rather gnarly. plausible deniability just isn't enough to stand on with with a farmer's assets at stake. no farmer would agree to cannabis until it's legal.

KY has launched a legal hemp program.
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Ah. So I guess that the only time the farmer is off the hook is when he calls in the grow himself. Here's an idea: I'll plant a thousand, harvest 900, and the farmer can call in the remaining 100. Everybody wins ;)
 
rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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You may want to look into how that forfeiture stuff works. @abe supercro may be right about your/his area or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying abe. That's not how it forfeiture laws work in Hawaii anyway. The other popular spots to guerrilla grow are in gulches and the jungle and if the eradication helicopters spot a grow on someone's property that isn't being obviously grown by the owner of the property, the cops just chop it and move on. They don't even ask the land owner questions about it. I have a neighbor who's cropped out his own gulch for years and once in awhile it gets spotted and chopped and he just replants it. I knew another guy who did the same thing with his jungle property and he was growing A LOT of plants, hundreds every year. The cops know it could be anybody so there's no way to prove who was actually doing the growing and therefor no case against the landowner. I have another couple friends who each own 300+ acres here and people are always growing on each of their properties without their permission and it's the same thing, the cops just drop and chop and move on.

On the other hand, I knew a guy who lost his house and everything to LEO forfeiture and did some time, but he was growing in his backyard and it was obvious he was the one doing the growing; this was also back in the 70's when they were stricter about it all. Another couple I saw on the news weren't growing directly on their property, but they had over 350 plants on all the empty lots around their house. They pretty much painted themselves as the bulls-eye so they got popped. Otherwise, guerrilla growing is safe for landowners here; they can just deny they knew about it if they ever got asked, but that doesn't happen anyway.

So it would be worthwhile to look into how LEO deals with guerrilla grows in your area because the Man shouldn't just be able to take somebody's property without actual evidence the landowner was involved in the grow in some way.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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rikdabrick said:
You may want to look into how that forfeiture stuff works. @abe supercro may be right about your/his area or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying abe. That's not how it forfeiture laws work in Hawaii anyway. The other popular spots to guerrilla grow are in gulches and the jungle and if the eradication helicopters spot a grow on someone's property that isn't being obviously grown by the owner of the property, the cops just chop it and move on. They don't even ask the land owner questions about it. I have a neighbor who's cropped out his own gulch for years and once in awhile it gets spotted and chopped and he just replants it. I knew another guy who did the same thing with his jungle property and he was growing A LOT of plants, hundreds every year. The cops know it could be anybody so there's no way to prove who was actually doing the growing and therefor no case against the landowner. I have another couple friends who each own 300+ acres here and people are always growing on each of their properties without their permission and it's the same thing, the cops just drop and chop and move on.

On the other hand, I knew a guy who lost his house and everything to LEO forfeiture and did some time, but he was growing in his backyard and it was obvious he was the one doing the growing; this was also back in the 70's when they were stricter about it all. Another couple I saw on the news weren't growing directly on their property, but they had over 350 plants on all the empty lots around their house. They pretty much painted themselves as the bulls-eye so they got popped. Otherwise, guerrilla growing is safe for landowners here; they can just deny they knew about it if they ever got asked, but that doesn't happen anyway.

So it would be worthwhile to look into how LEO deals with guerrilla grows in your area because the Man shouldn't just be able to take somebody's property without actual evidence the landowner was involved in the grow in some way.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. If it worked the other way, you could fuck anybody you wanted just by planting a couple ladies on their property. That doesn't seem right...
 
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