Controlled Experiment: AN Voodoo Juice

anomolies

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Purpose: To test the efficacy of AN Voodoo Juice.

Product claims:
Beneficial Bacteria Root Booster VOODOO JUICE BENEFITS:

  • Maximize Root Mass
  • Optimize Intake Of Nutrients And Water
  • Vigorous Growth
  • Maximum Harvests
  • Increases flowering sites and bud size (claims this in a video)
Treatment Group (given voodoo juice): [2] TGA Apollo-13 BX & [2] Chernobyl (not pictured here).

Control Group (no voodoo juice): [2] TGA Apollo-13 BX & [2] Chernobyl (not pictured here)

Notations:
APX = Apollo13-bx
CH = Chernobyl
V = Voodoo Juice Treatment

Container: DIY Air-pruning pot. 2.5 gallons.

Medium: Botanicare 5kg compressed CocoGro. (pure coco)

Water: 5-stage R.O. filter.

Base Nutrients
: CNS-17 Grow Coco/soil formula. Following feeding chart which suggests 3 tsp/gal for seedlings. (So far highest dosage I've tried is 6tsp/gal for one month old plants with slight tip burn).

Additives: AN Voodoo Juice at 1 tsp/gal. Will do suggested 8 ml/liter when plants are a bit bigger.

PH (adjusted after nutrients): Around 5-6.

EC: Not applicable. (no EC meter)

Feeding Frequency: Handwatered Every 2-3 days, will become more frequent as plants get bigger. When they are bigger my feeding method will be changed to submersing the entire pot under water in 10gal container of solution.

Light: Plants are outdoors from 10am-7pm.
Indoors from 7pm-12am & 4am-10am (600w MH Digilux Bulb / Nextgen Ballast)
Vertical Grow Setup

Training: Plants will be topped at 2nd/3rd node or fimmed. Haven't decided.

I will compare results by seeing if the roots grow faster than normal with AN Voodoo Juice, and if the treatment group has increased growth/height/mass.

Did I leave any information out? I will also be documenting a Foliar feed experiment
(spl1's formula)& Botanicare Liquid Karma when I have time to upload pics.


Age: 11 days from when seeds were planted.
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dbkick

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Right on, I just passed up voodoo juice at the local hydro store due to price and not knowing whether its really worth it. My question is wouldn't this research be better done in a hydro system, one where you could actually see the difference in the root growth?
I'm not saying your research isn't going to be helpful but with soil (I don't know a thing about soil and actually very little about hydro but my first grow came out pretty good, on number 2 now) if I'm not mistaken you can't really see the roots and that would actually tell you a lot about how it works. I'm thinking had I made voodoo juice one of my additives my roots wouldn't have looked like they do in the attached photo but they would be fluffy and white, does this equate to bigger better yield? Oh sorry, I guess you aren't growing in soil, told you I was a noob. I'll def be watching so I can determine if I wanna drop a bill on a liter of voodoo juice.
 

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anomolies

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I can see tips of roots with my containers. They are mini milk crates lined with window screen. So if the Treatment group shows a bunch of white tips before the control group then I'll know if it worked. But I'll also be comparing in flower.

It claims it works in soil / coco too so that's why i'm testing it.

What nutrients / additives were you using? Some nutrients / additives cause brown roots. I don't know much about hydro grows but you can get white roots without Voodoo Juice.
 

dbkick

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Hey, I'm using AN sensi grow a/b , connissuer bloom a/b, big bud and b52. I also add a little h2o2 when my roots start to get a little yellow ( my hydro shop guy says AN connisuer does that).
 

anomolies

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Well it's been 11 days since I started the experiment.. Voodoo Juice has shown no noticeable results or proven it's claim of "vigorous growth" nor root growth in coco medium thus far.

I guess pictures would be meaningless unless someone wants to see pictures of plants that look identical to one another. I may continue this experiment in flowering but right now it's a real hassle to have to mix two different feed solutions.


It's worth experimenting in a DWC system but I don't think the cost will justify the results.

At the same time of this experiment I was running another treatment group of TGA Qleaner which I foliar fed and is now 1-2 nodes ahead in growth than the ones given Voodoo Juice or no additives. I am currently doing an experiment on foliar feeding to see if it actually works. If it does, it is a much cheaper alternative to producing vigorous growth than Voodoo Juice.

If anyone has any input to add to this thread, like their own Voodoo Juice controlled experiment (keyword: controlled), that would be greatly appreciated.

More experiments to come guys.
 

anomolies

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I setup a DWC system for a single plant..

Only cost me $10 for air pump and bucket so i'll be testing Voodoo juice again. (before / after)
=]
 

dbkick

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just don't use sensizyme with it, I did and developed some sort of fungus/rot over night and had to h2o2 every plant I had. I can tell you you WILL see a difference in DWC, an amazing difference in root growth/health if you haven't seen it work you'll be impressed, although myself, I'm putting together a bennie bucket, I can't be spending 100 bux a liter for voodoo juice but I know it works wonders. The bacteria/fungi I breed in this bucket SHOULD be comparable to voodoo juice at a fraction of the cost.You'd notice a bigger difference in aerosrping though, which is a form of dwc but with added features
 

anomolies

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I'm gonna restart this experiment again with the same plants. I think it didn't work because I wasn't watering everyday, and I've just recently heard that microorganisms die if your medium dries out.

Also, it seems like it's starting to work in the DWC bucket already, though the plant doesn't seem to be growing at all, I guess it has to grow water roots first?
 

dbkick

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roots will go nuts, the roots gotta grow first and thats when the plant will uptake more nutrients in turn growing like a weed. I quit using voodoo juice and am brewing my second earthworm tea , it contains probably most of the things that are in voodoo juice, bacteria and fungi anyway, voodoo juice is good shit but not worth the money to me, I think I'm getting pretty good results with this tea and it costs very little to make.
 

dbkick

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I used it briefly and saw great results.....then....I added sensizym and shot those results to hell, developed a slime of some sort so I h2o2'd everything, this pretty much killed off the expensive voodoo juice
 

dudeoflife

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I could never justify spending that kind of money for Voodoo juice, either. It's a shame you had to waste $$ to see how little it does by itself.

In all fairness though, I have used samples of it before-- pinched samples from fellow growers --- and was impressed at the size of the rootball after applying it in DWC. I sang its high praises for a year or so before I got into the nutrient biz. In hindsight, the vigor should've been owed to the ideal conditions and superior nutrient balance I had already provided the plants prior to its application.

So in other words: You do everything right, you will get ridiculous roots anyway. But people drop the huge amounts of $$, apply the snake oil to the already ideal conditions, and rationalize the purchase of said snake oil.
 

dbkick

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I've recently started brewing my own bennies from a recipe a guy on this board shared with me, its a EWC tea with some fungi powder added . brew it up for 48 hours and you'll have many of the same things voodoo juice has in it, although so far I'm seeing that voodoo juice performs better this tea cost a fraction of the price of voodoo juice. I could h2o2 the bennies in my res now and not worry that I just killed off 100 dollars worth of microbes/fungi.
 

dudeoflife

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You mean a dollar's worth of microbes & fungi. lol.

I've once fell for the marketing, too. Don't get me wrong-- VJ is good stuff, just absurdly overpriced.

Brew your concoction for a week with a little unsulphured molasses. You'll have your own voodoo juice.
 

anomolies

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Well today I tore out 4 males from my coco medium. There was absolutely no difference in root mass / structure / hairs etc between the plants given Voodoo Juice and plants not given Voodoo Juice. All of the roots looked really healthy in both groups.

Think I'm just gonna call this experiment concluded. Voodoo Juice isn't worth the price -- if it even does anything at all.


Next product I might test is H&G Roots Excelerator or Shooting Powder.
 
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