"connoisseur" part A & B (Advanced Nuits)

Wassup yall!

iv been using these bloom nutrients, "connoisseur" part A and B for about a week now.. it says on the bottle to use thru weeks 1-6 of flowering...

After that week should i be switching just to water for the rest of the days, or is there other nutrients i should get for the ending process? I do plan on flushing them for the last 2 weeks but im sure after the 6th week i will still have them going for another 5 weeks or so...

Also im using RO water (REVERSE OSMOSIS for those of you who don't know) I was told that the RO water is so pure its actually missing some key things for plants and thats when "CALMAG" comes into play! So my question is....

when i stop using my Nutrients should i continue with my "CALMAG" or is this product strictly for allowing maximum nutrient uptake, and there for is no longer needed after nutrient process?

much love yall!!! peace!

What do you mean "when you stop using nutrients"? Using RO you will need calcium and BTW Connoisseur is one of the biggest rip-off's known to mankind, Google: Prestige Pricing Psychological Marketing Technique, Homebrewer did a side by side and the Connoisseur was shocking.

It says use it for weeks 1-6 on a 7 week feeding schedule if your growing an 8 or 9 week strain you want to feed up until the final week and then flush well with something like Final Phase to remove as much of the fertilizer salts as possible before harvesting

WhiteRooster said:

It says use it for weeks 1-6 on a 7 week feeding schedule if your growing an 8 or 9 week strain you want to feed up until the final week and then flush well with something like Final Phase to remove as much of the fertilizer salts as possible before harvesting

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Flushing is largely not needed and is forum myth ( and big business), when you buy on the street can you tell if it has been flushed?

budman111 said:

Flushing is largely not needed and is forum myth ( and big business), when you buy on the street can you tell if it has been flushed?

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Have you ever lit a joint and it wouldn't say lit that's because there are fertilizer salts built up in the plant material that don't let it burn properly... Or have you smoked a joint and the ash is black that is another sign that the bud has salt build up in it you want the ash to be a nice light gray not black... And I was just trying to help you out with your feeding schedule you want to find out how many weeks it takes to flower most strains flower in 8 to 9 very few are ready in week 7 so keep that in mind you don't want to cut out the nutrients to soon or you won't get the maximum yield

And your talking about flushing being big business you are using one of the most expensive base nutrients on the market

WhiteRooster said:

And your talking about flushing being big business you are using one of the most expensive base nutrients on the market

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your talking to the wrong dude rooster... i asked the question... but yea thanks for the help and when it comes time to flush water alone wont do the trick??? is Final phase that important?

Noobie. Kinda said:

your talking to the wrong dude rooster... i asked the question... but yea thanks for the help and when it comes time to flush water alone wont do the trick??? is Final phase that important?

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No it is not necessary. I however do like working with a product by House and Garden called Drip Clean. You use it throughout the life of the plant, and it basically helps the breakdown of salts. Since using it I have never had a salt build up issue and the finished product is extremely smooth(with white ash) just buy watering with plain water and my usual dosage of Drip Clean the last 10 days of the plants life. It's also very cheap, it retails for like $20 for a 250ml bottle and you only use 1/2ml/gal.

Noobie. Kinda said:

your talking to the wrong dude rooster... i asked the ques

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My bad I was stoned...You could just flush with pH balanced water but I would use something to breakdown all the fertilizer salts built up in the growing medium/flowers that's one of the reasons why I use organic nutrients to prevent salt build up in the medium/flowers to end up with a high quality medicine that tastes and burns good

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I am also going to run connoisseurs. I won't believe either side until I try it for myself. Thanks for the flush tip I just do a ten day water flush, but will try that drip clean this grow.

Mr John said:

I am also going to run connoisseurs.

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I was the same years ago, seeing is believing, payed silly cash for a liter and it was no better than the cheap brand. Why? As a grower with 10 years experience I can now see a plant can only uptake 16 nutrient elements and some are not even included in the A.N. bottle, Even A.N. says you need to use at least 4-5 bottles extra on top of the astronomicaly priced CON-noisseur - Google: Prestige Pricing Marketing Technique.

budman111 said:

I was the same years ago, seeing is believing, payed silly cash for a liter and it was no better than the cheap brand. Why? As a grower with 10 years experience I can now see a plant can only uptake 16 nutrient elements and some are not even included in the A.N. bottle, Even A.N. says you need to use at least 4-5 bottles extra on top of the astronomical priced CON-noisseur - Google: Prestige Pricing Marketing Technique.

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Connoisseur is very overpriced. Sensi Bloom is the better buy from AN IMO. I will say that you can run conny and Sensi at much lower doses(less than half of what AN directs) than other A&B products on the market making it not that more expensive than those other products. I steer away from it now because I want my microbes to have a better chance to thrive, because of the high levels of nitrates and EDTA in conny and sensi it's just not for me anymore. I'm even about to drop my heavy 16 bases becasue of the nitrate content. Hopefully the NFTG bases will work as well as the synthetic bases I have been using for the last 5-6 years

budman111 said:

I was the same years ago, seeing is believing, payed silly cash for a liter and it was no better than the cheap brand. Why? As a grower with 10 years experience I can now see a plant can only uptake 16 nutrient elements and some are not even included in the A.N. bottle, Even A.N. says you need to use at least 4-5 bottles extra on top of the astronomicaly priced CON-noisseur - Google: Prestige Pricing Marketing Technique.

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Well damn... I only have two years growing and some of you have ten or more wich means I need to listen to you. I have ran GH and Floranova nutes with what I thought decent crops. I do think AN can be overkill with all the other stuff they recommend, who has that kind of money? I was just planning on running conny alone and see.

What would you guys recommend for nutes as I can return the conny to Amazon for a refund.

Mr John said:

Well damn... I only have two years growing and some of you have ten or more wich means I need to listen to you. I have ran GH and Floranova nutes with what I thought decent crops. I do think AN can be overkill with all the other stuff they recommend, who has that kind of money? I was just planning on running conny alone and see.

What would you guys recommend for nutes as I can return the conny to Amazon for a refund.

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Well here is a link to the AN ingridient list so you can see what is in both Sensi and Conny

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/calc/Nutrient-Calculator-Raw-Ingredients-List.pdf

It is hard to say what is better than others it seems like up to the grower and their practices.

941mick said:

Well here is a link to the AN ingridient list so you can see what is in both Sensi and Conny

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/calc/Nutrient-Calculator-Raw-Ingredients-List.pdf

It is hard to say what is better than others it seems like up to the grower and their practices.

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Awesome, thank you

Noobie. Kinda said:

Wassup yall!

iv been using these bloom nutrients, "connoisseur" part A and B for about a week now.. it says on the bottle to use thru weeks 1-6 of flowering...

After that week should i be switching just to water for the rest of the days, or is there other nutrients i should get for the ending process? I do plan on flushing them for the last 2 weeks but im sure after the 6th week i will still have them going for another 5 weeks or so...

Also im using RO water (REVERSE OSMOSIS for those of you who don't know) I was told that the RO water is so pure its actually missing some key things for plants and thats when "CALMAG" comes into play! So my question is....

when i stop using my Nutrients should i continue with my "CALMAG" or is this product strictly for allowing maximum nutrient uptake, and there for is no longer needed after nutrient process?
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much love yall!!! peace!

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Recently stumbled upon a reddit thread with comments and links to info claiming AN is mislabeled and misleading (according to a regulatory board in the state of Oregon) and a bunch of other hype about the company's working standards and practices, etc.

PERSONALLY... I returned my AN OVERDRIVE today. Regardless of weather they work or not they will not receive another dime of my money. I'm just glad I've only spent a little money with them and haven't invested lots over time.

http://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/2cebe7/advanced_nutrients_is_possibly_completely_full_of/

Nintendude said:

Recently stumbled upon a reddit thread with comments and links to info claiming AN is mislabeled and misleading (according to a regulatory board in the state of Oregon) and a bunch of other hype about the company's working standards and practices, etc.

PERSONALLY... I returned my AN OVERDRIVE today. Regardless of weather they work or not they will not receive another dime of my money. I'm just glad I've only spent a little money with them and haven't invested lots over time.

http://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/2cebe7/advanced_nutrients_is_possibly_completely_full_of/

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Capitalism at work! You should completely put your money behind what you believe in.

I have personally had great results with their stuff. I can do almost five 8 plant runs with the bottle of Overdrive I pay $30/L for. I never had to go more than 3ml/gal with sensi grow that only costs me $22. VooDoo can be run at a 3rd of the dose to equal the contents of most other Bacilus products(if AN is not lying, i really dont know). Kushie Kush(Big Bud Clone) only needs to me run to 1/8-1/2 strength that only costs me $34/L and does 3-4 crops. The powdered carbo load I use does over 500 gallons only cost me $25.

If I was to not spend money at places that I didn't agree with their practices my choices would be very limited. Every company who donates to the Republican party and Churches would be boycotted immediately for me. Any company not paying a living wage adjusted for inflation, cut. Any company that works salary employees over 40 hours a week, gone. I could go on and on, when it comes to this.

Many people here are gonna say it a waste of money no matter how much I spend to how much I'm compensated for my product. However I feel as though it works and to me the cost compared to compensation is not even close. I completely understand the other train of thought though. I have family members that are worth a lot of money, but still shop at Salvation Army and Goodwill. To each their own.

Shooting Powder by H&G is great and it's effects in my experience are very comparable to Overdrive. It just costs more per gallon...

Nintendude said:

I returned my AN OVERDRIVE today.

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Good because it is simply a weak PK with questionable vitamins.

budman111 said:

Good because it is simply a weak PK with questionable vitamins.

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Have you ever used it?