Concentrates and toxins

endpro said:

well if you search the internet for what kind of bud will smell louder and taste better(side effect of having more terpene build up), you will get a resounding organics leaning result. the smell and taste come from terpenes.

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SnapsProvolone said:

Over 20 years ago I started growing. I've done it just about every way possible. I have found that in soil it was easy to get awesome quality from using the correct amount of chemical nutrients at the proper time.

Biggest flavor downer is too much N during last half of flowering. Its hard to time N depletion in an organic only situation.

Flushing is a myth. If your late flower feed is properly balanced (high P and low N) you need not starve a plant when it's doing it's best work.

Bennies are only there to keep bad stuff at bay and breakdown organic nutrients into uptakeable forms. So if feeding nutrients that need not be broken down and running sterile reservoir you don't need bennies.

All that said, I get total control and maximum availablility of my nutrients by using gh three part, calmag and ro water.

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Pangioti said:

So I guess I have answered my own question - any pesticides, neem oil or anything else that was put on or in the plant will get extracted to concentrate no matter what method of extraction you use…

sound right?

I have enjoyed reading up on organic growing and have been well-educated on it - thank you

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Dan Kone said:

I agree with all of this except the part about flushing. Whether or not you should flush and for how long depends on how you feed them. I prefer loading them up heavy on pk then flushing.

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Pangioti said:

So I guess I have answered my own question - any pesticides, neem oil or anything else that was put on or in the plant will get extracted to concentrate no matter what method of extraction you use…

sound right?

I have enjoyed reading up on organic growing and have been well-educated on it - thank you

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SaybianTv said:

Hey why you guys gotta dick bash organic if the guys not blowing the holy'er than thou talk. I run probably 90% organic because I guess that's just my lot in life. I also grow my own meat and food so It's a little more complex than method thumping.

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WarMachine said:

I can't imagine it tasting very good though? Weird texture/taste I presume? LOL I just kid my friend

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Pangioti said:

Hello all,
My father has ALS and I have been helping him out with mmj to treat his condition. I have made several tinctures, and oil and have produced capsules but have since switched him over to strictly vaping. I stopped producing concentrates because I understand that unless you know the product you getting is organic and has not been treated with pesticides – I would be concentrating the pesticides along with the essential oil.

I am in a state where MMJ is still illegal so I'm looking to set up grow room so I can control my own product, but until I am able to do that - does ice water extraction clean out the impurities or should I just wait to make concentrates until I'm able to produce my organic product.?

Thank you!

Pangioti

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midnitetoak said:

There's so much testosterone in here it smells like gym class. To help answer your Q: whether hydro or organics are used doesn't matter much- water hash can still contain whatever chemicals were sprayed on the mj if any existed at harvest...ppl spray chemical on their organic & hydro grows too. Making concentrates out of material from any unknown source obviously is a risk no matter the process used. I would try to nail down as reputable a source as possible to keep your father medicated as needed but set up your grow room with concentrate production in mind: in other words consider a SCROG type grow where you will end up with lots of trim to run bubble hash or BHO as opposed to a SOG where you typically will have several small plants & mostly bud to dry out & cure. You can make concentrates like hash or BHO right away no need to cure for weeks

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Pangioti said:

Thanks for the info!
Strange how this post blew up into an Organic Vs Hydro war but it really educated me and inspired me to look into both methods further.

I do plan on providing him with concentrates, I have already made a few - I followed BadKitty Smiles cannacap recipe and he liked it - but without knowing what's in the product I get, I'm weary of giving it to him. I should have the "reliable source" problem solved soon and then I will decide which concentrate to go with. I thought of BHO but did not trust I can purge properly. Right now, his hands give him a little trouble when he packs his Vape so having oil would be great, he could load a Dank Tank on the Tristick and not have to worry about reloading. So short of getting a SC-CO2 extractor, I will have to learn how to make some clean oil....

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