Colorado Senate gets to pot bill after fed warning

Ernst

Ernst

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In what has become a standard message from our Federal Government that Commerce violates our laws and International treaties Colorado now considers what California and Washington state already know as the way things are.

Colorado Senate gets to pot bill after fed warning



DENVER
Colorado lawmakers are taking up marijuana regulation proposals for the first time since receiving a federal warning about state pot laws.
The Senate Finance Committee planned to start work on a medical marijuana bill Monday that changes rules for how the drug can be grown and sold. Last week, the top federal prosecutor in Colorado sent a letter to legislators saying pot regulations could put state employees at risk of federal prosecution.
Lawmakers from both parties have said they intend to move ahead with this year's bill, which addresses who can work at dispensaries and changes other regulations. The bill was up for review before the federal warning.
The letter from John Walsh, the top federal prosecutor in Colorado, closely resembled warnings sent by federal prosecutors in California, Washington and Montana -- which are among 15 states that have legalized medical marijuana.
The notification warns that states shouldn't pass bills that appear to authorize medical marijuana businesses because the drug is still illegal under federal law.
Colorado's marijuana regulations -- set to take effect this summer -- mandate who can register to sell or grow the drug. The rules also give state regulators seed-to-sale tracking of the drug.
The bill currently up for debate would add new regulations for makers of cannabis-infused food, such as pot brownies, among other changes.
Walsh told Colorado officials that federal prosecutors do not intend to go after "seriously ill individuals who use marijuana." However, Walsh said, the federal government won't ignore the manufacture and distribution of pot, even if such activities are permitted under state law.
Democratic Sen. Pat Steadman rejected the federal warning, saying "it's just the federal government being clumsy and heavy-handed."
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Please see the link for the complete story.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9MVH5000.htm

It looks very convincing that the Federal Government is being clear that we can have private horticulture, use and private trade but they draw the line at Commerce.

So shall we all unite? Let us all over this land stand together for Cannabis Horticulture, Cannabis use and private non-commercial trade rights.

You may now insult this old man..

With a knick-knack patty-whack give the dog a bone.. This old man is not so dumb.
 
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redivider

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washington state's governor vetoed a bill to authorize cannabis dispensaries b/c of this warning.

and you should really shut the fuck up about personal non commercial cannabis rights. it's a dream utopia only a person as high as yourself can take seriously.

the ratio of marijuana users vs the amount of marijuana growers is like 1000:1

no matter how much you huff and puff most of us smokers buy our weed.

your incessant advocating for a movement that will only benefit the smallest group of marijuana users is selfish and lacks foresight. please, SHUT THE FUCK UP already....
 
canndo

canndo

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The U.S. government is not advocating personal cultivation. The U.S. government is not advocating the growing or using of marijuana at all. The warning is worded the way it is because they are wise enough to keep from telling the states that their fundamental Med Marijuana laws are bunk and the Government is not going to abide by them. The feds have never changed their stand and it doesn't matter who is in office.
 
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i am confused. the way i read it is that "we are the feds and we are gonna tell you what to do, and growing, smoking mj is gonna cause us to cause yo harm".

mj laws are fucked up.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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redivider said:
washington state's governor vetoed a bill to authorize cannabis dispensaries b/c of this warning.

and you should really shut the fuck up about personal non commercial cannabis rights. it's a dream utopia only a person as high as yourself can take seriously.

the ratio of marijuana users vs the amount of marijuana growers is like 1000:1

no matter how much you huff and puff most of us smokers buy our weed.

your incessant advocating for a movement that will only benefit the smallest group of marijuana users is selfish and lacks foresight. please, SHUT THE FUCK UP already....
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How are you? You know you and I should get together and go bowling or something.
Bond.. Become friends.

Would you like my phone number?

Let me know. I am not a one dimensional masked persona. I am a mature fully grown man.

Be Well.. Do you study the Tao by chance?
 
Ernst

Ernst

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canndo said:
The U.S. government is not advocating personal cultivation. The U.S. government is not advocating the growing or using of marijuana at all. The warning is worded the way it is because they are wise enough to keep from telling the states that their fundamental Med Marijuana laws are bunk and the Government is not going to abide by them. The feds have never changed their stand and it doesn't matter who is in office.
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This is the kind of slip slide of topic focal that degrades into a fight.

Now the statement I made was this
It looks very convincing that the Federal Government is being clear that we can have private horticulture, use and private trade but they draw the line at Commerce.
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And it looks like it has been translated into
The U.S. government is not advocating personal cultivation.
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That California and other Medical states have horticulture, use and private non-commercial trade is something our Federal Government seems to be leaving alone but actual commerce is not acceptable.

So do you see how we fail?

I think we have a friend in Obama. As you comment the Federal cannot change their position is right on.. By law they must oppose and it is on us to change things state by state so that we can change the Federal level position.

Thanks for replying.

Be Well..

Ernst
 
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redivider

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Ernst said:
How are you? You know you and I should get together and go bowling or something.
Bond.. Become friends.

Would you like my phone number?

Let me know. I am not a one dimensional masked persona. I am a mature fully grown man.

Be Well.. Do you study the Tao by chance?
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lol... no tao for me...
 
canndo

canndo

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I retained a real estate lawyer today. He specializes in 420 code enforcement and zoning. My god what a mess. We can attempt to get a business license and we will fail. We can take the matter to civil court after we have exhausted all other avenues, knowing that in so doing we will get no where. My lawyer estimates we will spend between 10 and 30 thousand dollars and two years to get to the point where we can challenge the fact that we cannot legitimately get a business license but we cannot grow in a legitimate industrial park without one. I live close to the border of two different counties. One county has an archaic legal structure that denies one the ability to grow. The other county has a new legal structure... that denies one's ability to grow.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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canndo said:
I retained a real estate lawyer today. He specializes in 420 code enforcement and zoning. My god what a mess. We can attempt to get a business license and we will fail. We can take the matter to civil court after we have exhausted all other avenues, knowing that in so doing we will get no where. My lawyer estimates we will spend between 10 and 30 thousand dollars and two years to get to the point where we can challenge the fact that we cannot legitimately get a business license but we cannot grow in a legitimate industrial park without one. I live close to the border of two different counties. One county has an archaic legal structure that denies one the ability to grow. The other county has a new legal structure... that denies one's ability to grow.
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Do you believe private horticulture can effect change? What I figure is if everyone can garden then counties will have no reason to keep those laws.
Not cultivation which suggests we can grow plants but horticulture where we can breed, grow, use and share in non-commercial ways.

Do you see horticulture as cracking the ice in places like my county Stanislaus?
 
canndo

canndo

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Ernst, the latest news is in California. Aparently one of the counties has declared that there is a negative environmental impact from growing marijuana and they have forbidden the growing of any marijuana out doors. All growing must be within 4 walls. There goes your "private horticulture". No, at least in California, or parts of it, they simply don't condone any growing. Now that the Feds are cracking down again on anything considered "recreational", commerce based or not, a private approach to legalization will go no further than any other.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Did we not also realize the effect on Global Warming forcing everyone to grow using electricity?

Maybe change takes more time but failure does last forever.

I assume you are referencing the Cannabis market but I am not sure. Please clarify.
 
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