Collective/Dispensary Clarification Please

Ok, so I understand that collectives and dispensaries operate within some grey area of the law (though most persons interpret them as not operating legally).

What are some of the reasons (if there are more than one) why collectives and dispensaries aren't considered clearly legal?

If a dispensary is servicing say 100 members...how are they allowing themselves to be "caregiver" for 100 people...I doubt that there would be 20 employees to allow for that many patients. Is this where the problem lies? Or is there something else?

Do collectives also service more members than they may be allowed to?

Or do both of these run by outsourcing each new member's card information to 3rd party growers, thus always satisfying the 5 patients to a caregiver restriction?

They operate under patient to patient transfers.
The number of caregivers at a dispensary is to cover the amount of weight they have at the location, not the number of members/patients.

Note: there are two different types of caregivers.
1. A non qualifying caregiver. (a person who can grow and help a patient obtain meds, and they are limited to only helping their assigned patients and working with other caregivers. They are not actually permitted the "medical use")
2. A qualifying patient that is also a caregiver. (they can assist, and transfer to any qualifying patient or caregiver and is also allowed the medical use)

Many also operate by actually getting caregivers patients then the patients donate to the dispensary for the meds the caregiver takes there. This way it should protect caregivers more but still the dispensary is not totally legal according to the law. I think some even like caregiver to be there when patients donates for the meds.

we dont need protection.
Patients can buy there medicine anywhere they an find it.
If you are in a house in detroit and it gets busted with 800 pounds of cannabis and you are there buying , whatever, you are legal and legally allowed to get your medicine from any means necessary

and as a caregiver we have our own network of other caregivers that we can call if you run low or out of cannabis for our patients.
at least in the northern lower

Buddy Ganga said:

They operate under patient to patient transfers.
The number of caregivers at a dispensary is to cover the amount of weight they have at the location, not the number of members/patients.

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Hey, mind expanding on this? You mean that, for example, if three persons own/operate a dispensary, then they would be alotted (assuming each maxed out 6 patients): 2.5 oz x 6 patients x 3 caregivers = 45 oz on premises at any given time? That is, each caregiver would be essentially storing all his/her usuable medicine at the dispensary location. Am I interpreting this correctly?

Alsp.do you have any insight regarding how clones are handled at dispensaries? For example, if the dispensary were to make available, upon request by patients, trays of 12 clones at a time, then one of the caregiver owners of the dispensary would have to forfeit that number of plants at his/her growing location; is this right?

Thanks mucho.

In so many words, that sounds about right.

Trying to wrap my brain around all of this...What about a situation, where there would be only one owner of said dispensary? He/she would then only be allowed 15 oz worth of stock on-site at any given time? Do owners then cut deals with their employees to also exploit their 15 oz allotment if needed? But then, since this would only be an employee (and not dispensary/collective owner), would that be legal?

These questions may be a bit nit-picky, but the whole scenario seems messy, and I hate not having closure.

I'm not sure how to answer this with out being debated over semantics, but I'll give it a shot.

In any situation, there should be enough card holders "present" to justify the on hand weight.
This is covered by employee's (who must be card holders) volunteers (who must be card holders) and any visiting caregivers if meds are accessible.

There are NO owners. They have controlling members or boards.
Google "non profit" ...

Buddy Ganga said:

I'm not sure how to answer this with out being debated over semantics, but I'll give it a shot.

In any situation, there should be enough card holders "present" to justify the on hand weight.
This is covered by employee's (who must be card holders) volunteers (who must be card holders) and any visiting caregivers if meds are accessible.

There are NO owners. They have controlling members or boards.
Google "non profit" ...

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Question answered. I believe I understand what you mean with semantics here, with "present" being loosely interpreted.

If you are really interested in the truth, talk to a lawyer. There is nothing in 215 stating weight limits for dispensaries. Only for patients themselves, but these limits are nullified if your doctor says you need more.