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ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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Selleri said:
Actually the situation has gotten a lot better. The one identified as the bucket #1 is in really bad shape, but still better than what it was. Now the #2 has really taken up a spurt in growth and looks great apart from the odd yellowish/brownish spots on the first pair of single finger fans, had diagnosed them as pH-spots, but dont know for real. As I said before, I stopped stressing about things like pH and heat (not really a problem this time, but last summer left me traumatized so I panic everytime it's even close to 28 degree celcius.) I've started feeding the plants with every watering (around 1/4 of a normal strenght) and this has helped them a lot. It would seem as if the pH wasnt the problem, but I cant really believe plants that young and small would suffer from defiencies even if fed with just pH corrected tap water. Then again, the slow growth rates could've been caused by lack of nutes and me being too careful to feed the plants in fear of killing the plants.

Future plans are: probably getting rid of #1, getting a screen that fits the closet, vegging #2 until it fills the screen, flowering the plant until it blocks the screen, harvest, plan the next project a bit better.

Coco doesnt seem to go too well with the hempy buckets so I should think of a new way of growing. Maybe I'll just try regular coco grow for my next project as I still have two and a half bricks of coco left. Also a small question, I've heard that some people soak the coco bricks in water with some nutes in it to compensate the lack of nutrients in the coco itself and the limit of how much you can water the plant without drowning it at the start. Anyone here done that?

Edit. Pics are impossible to get at the moment as I dont, infact, own a camera as I had one on my previous phone. Which I broke when I tried to answer a call by pressing the word answer on the screen.. it snapped.
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glad things are looking up for you. if you dont mind though, just a couple of things. first you need to have nutes with "every" feeding. if you were just using straight water then that might have been what your issue was. never use straight water. coco nutes bond to the coco fibers thats how the roots feed. so when you use straight water, even Ph corrected, you are basically washing all of the nutes off of the fibers, and your water does not have the N-P-K to feed your plant. so remember that you never give straight water. as far as the bricks, i think they are crap and, they are alot to deal with. if i were you id just pay a little extra for a bag of the loose coco. because with all of the buffering that would be needed to get all of the salts out of it is too much for me. because they are generally not buffered. not to say it cant be done. but as for the hempy buckets, loose coco, and the nutes for loose coco are primarily drain to waste, with the exception of the slabs which can be used in a re-circulating system. but once those nutes go through that pot, what ever salt that is built up is washed out and i dont think you want your roots sitting in that soaking it back up, cause its basically just standing water, stagnant and with no oxygen. but hey hope that helped.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
Selleri

Selleri

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[FONT=&quot]Now there's a thing I should've given a thought before starting with coco. Going to continue giving them nutes carefully, around 1.25ml/liter with every watering.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]It's a bit unfortunate, but only coco available around here is the bricked kind processed by GHE, they atleast state that the coco has been washed and treated for the unwanted, like salts, pests and vermin. But to be honest I wouldnt be surprised if the problems I've faced with this grow and the one before were caused by uneven quality of the coco. However I have to work with what I have, there's real slight chances that I could get my hands on loose coco as the police forces have found new things to do in form of raiding hydroponic stores and headshops and sitting in cars close to them arresting anyone who comes out.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Also, I could always drill holes on the bottoms of the buckets to allow them to drain more efficiently. I would just need proper trays or something to put them in, so I would have water running everywhere in the house. Need to think this through before proceeding though.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]You've been a great help ZEN, I appriciate that.

Edit. Anyone ever tried a smartpot with coco?
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ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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Selleri said:
[FONT=&quot]Now there's a thing I should've given a thought before starting with coco. Going to continue giving them nutes carefully, around 1.25ml/liter with every watering.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]It's a bit unfortunate, but only coco available around here is the bricked kind processed by GHE, they atleast state that the coco has been washed and treated for the unwanted, like salts, pests and vermin. But to be honest I wouldnt be surprised if the problems I've faced with this grow and the one before were caused by uneven quality of the coco. However I have to work with what I have, there's real slight chances that I could get my hands on loose coco as the police forces have found new things to do in form of raiding hydroponic stores and headshops and sitting in cars close to them arresting anyone who comes out.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Also, I could always drill holes on the bottoms of the buckets to allow them to drain more efficiently. I would just need proper trays or something to put them in, so I would have water running everywhere in the house. Need to think this through before proceeding though.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]You've been a great help ZEN, I appriciate that.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Edit. Anyone ever tried a smartpot with coco?[/FONT]
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1.25ml is a good start, but dont forget to gradually raise the amount til you get to "your" max, then after about the 6th week start to lower the per liter amount of nutes to water to kinda give them a passive flush. if they say that the bricks you use are washed then they might be telling the truth. i would call whatever # is on the bag and ask, thats just me though. if it is in fact washed, then the feeding situation is probably all it was. like you said you gotta work with what you got bro. as far as the trays to catch the water, go to wal-mart, or whatever is similar in your area, but they have these storage bins/trays that are like 43" long and like 19" wide, and like 4-5 inches deep. go check them out if you can. i think theyare like $10-$15, maybe $20. but it beats $85-$95 for a 2x4 botanicare tray.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
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zizou21

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Sup guys, i'm excited to join the coco club.

My first grow EVER. gona grow 75% coco 25% Perlite and use Canna A+B and cal-mg for the entire grow. wat u guys think? :cool:
 
withoutAchance

withoutAchance

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any coco grower do cola only grows my next grow i would like to do this type in coco with canna ab pk13=14 and boost and see what i get. but i have no idea how to trim for this grow or what strain to use need lots of help/education on the grow. thanks.
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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zizou21 said:
Sup guys, i'm excited to join the coco club.

My first grow EVER. gona grow 75% coco 25% Perlite and use Canna A+B and cal-mg for the entire grow. wat u guys think? :cool:
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i would go 100% coco. its cheaper and less time consuming. ive never used cal-mag, just the A-B and a decent bloom booster(Gen. Hydro Floralicious Bloom).


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
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zizou21

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I'm going to plant the seed soon, do you guys water your plant right after germinatiion ? I heard to just water the coco before you plant, and then start feeding it 2 weeks later
 
nas2007

nas2007

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hey lads i hope one of yeh can help us out. i know i soposed to mix the coco a and b sepretly in the water. i accidently mix a and b toghter in the water and then just added the rhiz and cannazym like a usualy do and mixed bit all toghter and i left it to stand now for a few hours, now what should i do trow away the mix i made? or will it be okey? its just that its 11l of water and it will be waste of nutes if a throw it away, but im willing to do that if its going to affect my plants. so any help will be most apreciated!
 
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NeoSaturn

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Me and a friend are starting a grow op soon. we are renting a 2700 square foot apartment with the sole purpose of producing mary jane (i will be the only one living there). Im thinking about doing a Ebb and Flow system, and using coco as my medium. I live on a tropical island that has many coconuts, so i was thinking of making this myself. Im just not quite sure exactly how to make it. im guessing just husk the coconuts and break up the inner shells and mix them all together. should i leave the strands long and skinny or chop them up? also if money wasnt an issue and you had a large amount of space, what would be your ideal setup for the most yield? At the moment i can only get a hold of Mendo Purp, Power Plant, Super Girl, and Sweet Tooth. later i will order some seeds and try and get more strains. Thanks alot.
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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NeoSaturn said:
Me and a friend are starting a grow op soon. we are renting a 2700 square foot apartment with the sole purpose of producing mary jane (i will be the only one living there). Im thinking about doing a Ebb and Flow system, and using coco as my medium. I live on a tropical island that has many coconuts, so i was thinking of making this myself. Im just not quite sure exactly how to make it. im guessing just husk the coconuts and break up the inner shells and mix them all together. should i leave the strands long and skinny or chop them up? also if money wasnt an issue and you had a large amount of space, what would be your ideal setup for the most yield? At the moment i can only get a hold of Mendo Purp, Power Plant, Super Girl, and Sweet Tooth. later i will order some seeds and try and get more strains. Thanks alot.
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you, and i mean as in "we", not personally you, cant make coco. man just go ahead and buy you some. the loose coco is what i use(drain to waste). i really dont know that much about recirculating systems. i know they have the coco slabs for like drip systems(recirculating). but no you cant make it yourself. look up how its made and you'll see what i mean.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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ok ladies and gents i have an issue with my pistils not turning color. im in the 9th and week of flowering(8 week strain) and i thought i was kinda odd that the pistis are still 95% white. yesterday i looked through the scope and i saw a sea of milky white trichs and maybe one or two amber trichs, but like i said all white trichs, and the calyxes really havent started to swell . this is strange because this never happened to me before. what should i do? should i give it another week, two weeks to see if they change? should i chop it now and avoid the thc degrading? dont want to take a loss of yeild, but if i wait and give the flowers time to swell the thc might be degraded to an undesirable point. PLLEEAASSS!!!!! someone give me some advice on this, as i am stumped.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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also what are the symptoms of cal-mag deficiency. cause this is also going on;in the beginning, on the top portion of the plant the fan leaves are starting to get yellow in between the veins, while the veins are staying "DARK" green. later on the yellow portion starts to turn a goldish/bronze color, while the viens start to pale. once it passes that stage, the enitre leaf starts to turn goldish/bronze, curl under(from the sides), until its dry and crackly, then it starts on the next level underneath it. ive never had this problem before, and ive heard that coco can suffer from cal-mag issues real easy. and seeing that im doing what ive been doing for a while and never had this problem that it might be a Cal-Mag deficiency. i'll try to put up a tomorrow, if needed. thanks everybody.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
odlaw

odlaw

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that sounds exactly like what i had but in earlier stage i treated it as a cal/mag def and it came good
i had dark green veins and like rust spots appearing on the leaves with yellowing
 
Saltrock

Saltrock

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ZEN MASTER said:
ok ladies and gents i have an issue with my pistils not turning color. im in the 9th and week of flowering(8 week strain) and i thought i was kinda odd that the pistis are still 95% white. yesterday i looked through the scope and i saw a sea of milky white trichs and maybe one or two amber trichs, but like i said all white trichs, and the calyxes really havent started to swell . this is strange because this never happened to me before. what should i do? should i give it another week, two weeks to see if they change? should i chop it now and avoid the thc degrading? dont want to take a loss of yeild, but if i wait and give the flowers time to swell the thc might be degraded to an undesirable point. PLLEEAASSS!!!!! someone give me some advice on this, as i am stumped.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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Is this a new strain to you? If it is, some strains just never really turn amber. If not, then I would just chop and avoid the THC degrading and taste deterioration. Cloudy triches are still a good sign that you will have good psychoactive effect. Weird the hairs are still white,you would think at least 50% of the hairs would be orange by now, but I think there is a misconception going by the hairs for determining if the plant is done. What do you think? Are they still spindley buds?Or are the full formed buds with just white hairs? Sounds done to me or by the time you flush it, it will be done. I'd do like 2-3 days clearex or finalphase and 2-3 plain water.




ZEN MASTER said:
also what are the symptoms of cal-mag deficiency. cause this is also going on;in the beginning, on the top portion of the plant the fan leaves are starting to get yellow in between the veins, while the veins are staying "DARK" green. later on the yellow portion starts to turn a goldish/bronze color, while the viens start to pale. once it passes that stage, the enitre leaf starts to turn goldish/bronze, curl under(from the sides), until its dry and crackly, then it starts on the next level underneath it. ive never had this problem before, and ive heard that coco can suffer from cal-mag issues real easy. and seeing that im doing what ive been doing for a while and never had this problem that it might be a Cal-Mag deficiency. i'll try to put up a tomorrow, if needed. thanks everybody.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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Are you using RO? If not, what is the ppms of your tap water? What nutrient line are you using? Is this just happening on one plant? Pics would be cool for both of your dilemmas.

Peace
 
t0rn

t0rn

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Just picked up 2 50l bags of canna coco and the cs17 3 part coco line. I have to say I love the way this stuff drains out and retains the right amount of moisture. I transplanted out of some bs soil I had laying around the house and it seems like it retained too much water. The roots havent seemed to grow much in the old soil and around the soil when I transplanted was still sopping wet on the inside. I'm guessing that's why my roots didn't grow, too much moisture. Anyways, the link to my grow is listed, and I plan on getting an Abusive OG and a LA Confidential clone tomorrow.

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