Coalition Oversight-Audit Application into Coalition Finances

The Hippy

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They're comin for ya Jason...you better account for our money Sir ! I will support an effort to find the truth.
 

The Hippy

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This needs to be financed by the Government and not by patients this time. If self labelled charities or a coalition asks for money for a cause and it's used for trips. hotels and fun days, I expect my government to use it's police force, CRA and the courts to look into that.
Is that not what is supposed to happen ?
Can the cancer society throw beer parties or whatever with the funds they solicite ?
 

torontoke

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Ok here's the walking contradiction

13:20+ No money!!!
1:03:23 We got substantial amount put away.
Also if there's so much put away then why is Conroy claiming to be unpaid hundreds of thousands and threatening to walk?
Here's a good question....
What happens if phelan decides in allards a favour and there is no appeal?
What happens to the substantial money they have tucked away?

Why does this all sound like a group of school kids hovering over a plastic lunchbox full of $20's

Guy also has no class and paints patients in a bad way when he has to keep a phatty tucked in his ear at all times. If you expect to be taken seriously and be respected, look the part.
 

redi jedi

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This needs to be financed by the Government and not by patients this time. If self labelled charities or a coalition asks for money for a cause and it's used for trips. hotels and fun days, I expect my government to use it's police force, CRA and the courts to look into that.
Is that not what is supposed to happen ?
Can the cancer society throw beer parties or whatever with the funds they solicite ?
Actually..lol...they do use donations to host promotions..aka fund raising events, to raise more money.

Princess Margret lottery?
 

redi jedi

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What about those late nite infomercials about starving children in Africa. You think every penny donated goes to buying food?
 

torontoke

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The point is, once you donate, they can do whatever they want with the money...
I think we will agree to disagree bud

In my opinion when your asking folks to chip in on a cause then your obligation should be to use that money only when necessary and on the actual cause.
And be honest and show how it was spent. Or stashed
 

Nadine Bews

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The point is, once you donate, they can do whatever they want with the money...
No actually redi jedi you are incorrect...this is called misappropriation and misallocation of funds and not a matter of my opinion...for example if I sent you to the store for a quart of milk, you must purchase milk and not a gallon of ice cream or it is deemed to be a breach of duty...this is fundamental and is a moot point so please do not display your ignorance with respect to 'business law' in the future because you shall be misleading a lot of folks if you stand uncorrected in the future.
 

redi jedi

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I think we will agree to disagree bud

In my opinion when your asking folks to chip in on a cause then your obligation should be to use that money only when necessary and on the actual cause.
And be honest and show how it was spent. Or stashed
Ok...so in your opinion using donations to promote the cause is not actually supporting the cause?
 

redi jedi

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No actually redi jedi you are incorrect...this is called misappropriation and misallocation of funds and not a matter of my opinion...for example if I sent you to the store for a quart of milk, you must purchase milk and not a gallon of ice cream or it is deemed to be a breach of duty...this is fundamental and is a moot point so please do not display your ignorance with respect to 'business law' in the future because you shall be misleading a lot of folks if you stand uncorrected in the future.
My bad...but this is a litlle more complex then buying milk.
 

Nadine Bews

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Ok...so in your opinion using donations to promote the cause is not actually supporting the cause?
Teaching Moment: Fund raising for the purpose of fund raising is called 'core funding' and is consider to be a separate entity apart from fund raising for a cause. Core funding is usually obtained once an organization has established a good track record and has a Revenue Canada charitable organization designation and has received 'official recognition' from government and receives departmental funds for the ongoing administrative support or else receives funds for the ongoing administrative support from agencies designed specifically to fund raise for fund raisers such as the United Way.
 

redi jedi

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Teaching Moment: Fund raising for the purpose of fund raising is called 'core funding' and is consider to be a separate entity apart from fund raising for a cause. Core funding is usually obtained once an organization has established a good track record and has a Revenue Canada charitable organization designation and has received 'official recognition' from government and receives departmental funds for the ongoing administrative support or else receives funds for the ongoing administrative support from agencies designed specifically to fund raise for fund raisers such as the United Way.
Ok, but is the coalition actually a charitable organization? What ever it may be called on paper, its not a charity. I cant claim my donation at tax time...
 

Nadine Bews

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For instance...If I took a cab to get your milk, is that misallocation of funds?
Redi Jedi, this is supposed to be as serious forum and not a chat room for idle chatter and senseless comments...patient's scarce money and lives are at stake here and they have been seriously misled in the past and continue to be by a man that wears so many hats he is starting to look like the 'court fool'....Redi Jedi if you wished to fly and get the milk it is up to you but if the agreement that funds were for you to get milk by vehicle then of course the contractor should pay for the car fare and the milk but it would be implied that they meant you to walk to the store unless otherwise indicated.. Redi Jedi why don't you Google the term 'business law' and browse around for a while before you make a comment next time because it is embarrassing and time-wasting replying to your idle remarks.
 
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