CO-06: Why Jason Crow represents everything that's wrong with the DCCC and Establishment Democrats

abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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st0wandgrow said:
A lot of older black voters supported her because of Bill. After all, he was the "first black president". She did particularity well in the south with black votes, so I would say that some of that boiled down to religion. They might have had an issue with Bernie being a Jew. The dnc was trying to push the narrative that Bernie was an atheist, so some may have heard/believed that. I also believe that Bernies support for gays, and gay marriage hurt him in the black community. While Clinton was busy signing the defense of marriage act, and don't ask don't tell, Bernie was voting against those initiatives and standing up for gays before it was popular. The black community (I'm guessing largely due to religious beliefs) is very opposed to gay marriage and gay equality. Yes, they are capable of being prejudiced too.
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Trying to call me racist for not knowing better in 2011 and changing my mind when I learned, then becoming the most outspoken critic of Rawn Pawl?

Look at this rant about what you believe from yesterday:
st0wandgrow said:
A lot of older black voters supported her because of Bill. After all, he was the "first black president". She did particularity well in the south with black votes, so I would say that some of that boiled down to religion. They might have had an issue with Bernie being a Jew. The dnc was trying to push the narrative that Bernie was an atheist, so some may have heard/believed that. I also believe that Bernies support for gays, and gay marriage hurt him in the black community. While Clinton was busy signing the defense of marriage act, and don't ask don't tell, Bernie was voting against those initiatives and standing up for gays before it was popular. The black community (I'm guessing largely due to religious beliefs) is very opposed to gay marriage and gay equality. Yes, they are capable of being prejudiced too.
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@ttystikk are you going to say something to your buddy for his racism?
 
SneekyNinja

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abandonconflict said:
Trying to call me racist for not knowing better in 2011 and changing my mind when I learned, then becoming the most outspoken critic of Rawn Pawl?

Look at this rant about what you believe from yesterday:


@ttystikk are you going to say something to your buddy for his racism?
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Never.

Tty doesn't care if you're a crazy retarded racist or not, he just needs a friend (any friend, please, PLEASE) and let's it slide.
 
Fogdog

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SneekyNinja said:
Never.

Tty doesn't care if you're a crazy retarded racist or not, he just needs a friend (any friend, please, PLEASE) and let's it slide.
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As far as I can tell, we finished that discussion by concluding that @ttystikk (or was it @Padawanbater2 ? I have difficulty distinguishing one from the other) and @st0wandgrow agree that everybody who did not vote for Sanders in 2016 were not able to decide how to place their vote in their own best interest. They may still be racists and bigots but their issue with inflated ego and unjustified confidence goes beyond simple ignorance and bias.

I've heard that they meet together and fume about fake news stories to reinforce this belief in their own superiority.over mankind.

Pathetic
 
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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Fogdog said:
As far as I can tell, we finished that discussion by concluding that @ttystikk (or was it @Padawanbater2 ? I have difficulty distinguishing one from the other) and @st0wandgrow agree that everybody who did not vote for Sanders in 2016 were not able to decide how to place their vote in their own best interest. They may still be racists and bigots but their issue with inflated ego and unjustified confidence goes beyond simple ignorance and bias.

I've heard that they meet together and fume about fake news stories to reinforce this belief in their own superiority.over mankind.

Pathetic
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Those poor persecuted gringos...
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
As far as I can tell, we finished that discussion by concluding that @ttystikk (or was it @Padawanbater2 ? I have difficulty distinguishing one from the other) and @st0wandgrow agree that everybody who did not vote for Sanders in 2016 were not able to decide how to place their vote in their own best interest. They may still be racists and bigots but their issue with inflated ego and unjustified confidence goes beyond simple ignorance and bias.

I've heard that they meet together and fume about fake news stories to reinforce this belief in their own superiority.over mankind.

Pathetic
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Smear much?

You suck at it.

Prove that Bernie supporters are racist.

And while you're at it, try convincing us that Hillary was a better choice. I could use a good laugh!
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Smear much?

You suck at it.

Prove that Bernie supporters are racist.

And while you're at it, try convincing us that Hillary was a better choice. I could use a good laugh!
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Umm, reading comprehension much?

I said you guys believe everybody who didn't vote for Bernie are unable to make decisions in their own best interest.

I said you might be racist but you have much worse problems with inflated ego and unjustified confidence.

Come to think of it, that means you have entitled white man syndrome and a bad case of it

But in the previous post of mine I did not call you a scum sucking ugly stinking moronic racist. That I did not do.

edit: I forgot to add that in my previous post, although I didn't call you a disgusting blob of protoplasm filled with racism, I did call you

Pathetic
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Umm, reading comprehension much?

I said you guys believe everybody who didn't vote for Bernie are unable to make decisions in their own best interest.

I said you might be racist but you have much worse problems with inflated ego and unjustified confidence.

Come to think of it, that means you have entitled white man syndrome and a bad case of it

But in the previous post of mine I did not call you a scum sucking ugly stinking moronic racist. That I did not do.

edit: I forgot to add that in my previous post, although I didn't call you a disgusting blob of protoplasm filled with racism, I did call you

Pathetic
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One lung Strawman argument.

If you ever bothered to listen your know why Bernie supporters voted they way they did.

You've been sucked into the shit post void.
 
UncleBuck

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abandonconflict said:
awww poor white guy feels oppressed?
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i was working in el paso once with a mexican man, he was talking to a mexican man who lived in one of the apartments we provided maintenance for. conversation was in spanish. the guy in the apartment asked my co-worker "quien es el gringo?" in a kind of derogatory tone. that's when i introduced myself in spanish. i think he felt kind of bad about calling me a gringo.

but i can't imagine a scenario in which someone like you calling a white person a gringo could possibly be perceived as racist. the bernie babies are a bit desperate.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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UncleBuck said:
i was working in el paso once with a mexican man, he was talking to a mexican man who lived in one of the apartments we provided maintenance for. conversation was in spanish. the guy in the apartment asked my co-worker "quien es el gringo?" in a kind of derogatory tone. that's when i introduced myself in spanish. i think he felt kind of bad about calling me a gringo.

but i can't imagine a scenario in which someone like you calling a white person a gringo could possibly be perceived as racist. the bernie babies are a bit desperate.
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Just a bit...
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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UncleBuck said:
i was working in el paso once with a mexican man, he was talking to a mexican man who lived in one of the apartments we provided maintenance for. conversation was in spanish. the guy in the apartment asked my co-worker "quien es el gringo?" in a kind of derogatory tone. that's when i introduced myself in spanish. i think he felt kind of bad about calling me a gringo.

but i can't imagine a scenario in which someone like you calling a white person a gringo could possibly be perceived as racist. the bernie babies are a bit desperate.
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It's a typical thing. When I lived In La Paz, BCS people would talk right in front of me in the third person hoping I would understand. It is possible that you just earned his respect by passing his test.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Fogdog said:
As far as I can tell, we finished that discussion by concluding that @ttystikk (or was it @Padawanbater2 ? I have difficulty distinguishing one from the other) and @st0wandgrow agree that everybody who did not vote for Sanders in 2016 were not able to decide how to place their vote in their own best interest. They may still be racists and bigots but their issue with inflated ego and unjustified confidence goes beyond simple ignorance and bias.

I've heard that they meet together and fume about fake news stories to reinforce this belief in their own superiority.over mankind.

Pathetic
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This again?
:roll:

We've been over this a couple times already. I'm not concerned about what you think of me. If you'd like to punch holes in what I've said (which you've yet to do) I'm all ears, and am open to changing my opinion. This labeling thing that you and others tend to do is just an attempt to discredit what I'm saying.

"Oh he's a racist, or bigot, or arrogant, or blah blah blah".

That's what you, and buckles, and constant conflict do every time you're backed in to a corner. Personal attacks in an attempt to discredit.

I don't imagine you see the irony in your own post either. Nothing at all arrogant about getting up on your soap box and telling others how arrogant they are. lol

Are you bi-polar btw? You went from asking me about who I like in 2020 in one post, to this rant in the next post. Completely unprovoked.

You're a weird cat
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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st0wandgrow said:
This again?
:roll:

We've been over this a couple times already. I'm not concerned about what you think of me. If you'd like to punch holes in what I've said (which you've yet to do) I'm all ears, and am open to changing my opinion. This labeling thing that you and others tend to do is just an attempt to discredit what I'm saying.

"Oh he's a racist, or bigot, or arrogant, or blah blah blah".

That's what you, and buckles, and constant conflict do every time you're backed in to a corner. Personal attacks in an attempt to discredit.

I don't imagine you see the irony in your own post either. Nothing at all arrogant about getting up on your soap box and telling others how arrogant they are. lol

Are you bi-polar btw? You went from asking me about who I like in 2020 in one post, to this rant in the next post. Completely unprovoked.

You're a weird cat
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Well said. They can't argue the merits so they attempt to discredit the other with totally unrelated arguments. This is completely dishonest.

I find myself no longer willing to engage with Uncle feckless or constant conflict at all, because they bring nothing to the discussion and merely create conflict in an attempt to dominate the conversation. This is immature and pointless.

Who do you want to vote for in 2020?
 
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st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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ttystikk said:
Well said. They can't argue the merits so they attempt to discredit the other with totally unrelated arguments. This is completely dishonest.

I find myself no longer willing to engage with Uncle feckless it constant conflict at all, because they bring nothing to the discussion and merely create conflict in an attempt to dominate the conversation. This is immature and pointless.

Who do you want to vote for in 2020?
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Too early to say, but I'd support Bernie if he ran again. Kinda liking what I see from Kamala Harris as well, but need to read up more on her. Any early favorite for you?
 
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