Club Vert(600)

Growan

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Greetings, all.

I'm going to go vertical on my next grow. I've got what I think is a pretty good design for a screen, I have my fert and method decided and since everything here will be completely different to how I've done things before, I figure I try new strains too.
Any recommendations on strains that respond well to training to a vertical screen?
 

ttystikk

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Greetings, all.

I'm going to go vertical on my next grow. I've got what I think is a pretty good design for a screen, I have my fert and method decided and since everything here will be completely different to how I've done things before, I figure I try new strains too.
Any recommendations on strains that respond well to training to a vertical screen?
Pot plants like to grow vertically- they call it 'up', lol

Depending on how big you want them, stretch is a good thing.

Don't choose an overly bushy variety with short internodes, as it will choke itself out.

Top the growing tips that head for the light through week two of bloom.

The rest of the song remains the same...
 

Growan

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Pot plants like to grow vertically- they call it 'up', lol

Depending on how big you want them, stretch is a good thing.

Don't choose an overly bushy variety with short internodes, as it will choke itself out.

Top the growing tips that head for the light through week two of bloom.

The rest of the song remains the same...

Hmmm... Kinda asked for that, didn't I...

I'm planning a 4' tall screen, well actually a 8x4 sheet of welded mesh wrapped into a horseshoe and a smaller screen on casters to slide out for access, Hempy buckets, maybe 8 plants for the roughly 40² foot of screen. Will I need that many?
I guess it would be better to use 1 strain rather than 8 different ones since they'll all want to finish together.

I've only got experience of 2 strains indoors, chronic lights and a 'cheese'.
I quite fancy mk ultra, don't know why. Maybe I should be ultra trendy and try a lemon flavoured purple kush with og in the name....?
 

Dezracer

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My MK stayed small and bushy so it's not that great of a strain to work with using a screen in vertical gardens.
 

Growan

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My MK stayed small and bushy so it's not that great of a strain to work with using a screen in vertical gardens.
Thanks dez, I'm in need of exactly that sort of direction and advice. As I say, not a lot if experience of different strains.
 

ttystikk

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Anybody have any opinions on Humboldt's Blue Dream? Would that suit a Hempy vscrog?
The plan for strain selection is to find something stretchy, like a chem or girl scout cookies. Sounds weird but you want coverage, so you need plants that spread out and like their elbow room.

You didn't mention light source. This is crucial, as lighting sets the distance and cooling requirements. I'm a big advocate for running two bulbs in the vertical setup; one low and one higher. Diameter will vary by number and wattage of the lamps you plan to use.

Keep in mind that the plants will develop a depth, so size the mesh accordingly.
 

Growan

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The plan for strain selection is to find something stretchy, like a chem or girl scout cookies. Sounds weird but you want coverage, so you need plants that spread out and like their elbow room.

You didn't mention light source. This is crucial, as lighting sets the distance and cooling requirements. I'm a big advocate for running two bulbs in the vertical setup; one low and one higher. Diameter will vary by number and wattage of the lamps you plan to use.

Keep in mind that the plants will develop a depth, so size the mesh accordingly.
I'll be using a single bare 600w HPS, with the slim possibility of a vertical light mover attached. That depends on whether I can get my MacGuyver on to rig one. Honestly my priorities this time will be to transition from tent, soil, scrog to room, hempy , vscrog.
I can get about 70cm between screen and bulb, more if needed. I'll be working in an attic with apex roof, so the closer to the floor I have the screen, the larger the distance from the bulb I can get, if that makes sense.
The room is still an empty attic at the moment, when I get back to the location in a couple of weeks I'll be able to get stuck in. I'll insulate, build a stud wall and seal the room using panda film or similar, and then see where the mesh needs to hang. It'll be kind of like your super silos I guess, but with one open end and a slide out section like Joe Mac's trellises.

Stretchy plants eh? I'll have to start browsing the Attitude and see what's available...
 

Growan

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Waaaay to much choice on Attitude. Bastards.

Green carck
Blackwater
818 headband
Blue dream
Sage
C99
Dinachem

Fuck knows. At this rate I'll never place an order.
 

Dr.D81

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The blue dream and green crack would both do what you want and i have seen great plants. I have heard bad things about the black water. I grew the hso cem and it was good smoke. I just got a c99 clone this week and look forward to it. This is just what i have seen it all comes down to running some and finding a plant that works for you:-)
 

ttystikk

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Blue dream is fine but everyone has it and it takes forever to finish. Fuck green crack, straight up. LOL

Chem and diesel both stretch and that's good for this style. Headband is good- it's a chem cross- and Sage is a possibility.

Your bulb to trellis distance is good out a bit long for 600W. Here's how long your piece needs to be to go all the way around; 70cm x 2 x 3.14 = 4.4m!

I ran two foot radius, works out to twelve and a half foot circumference. Run four to six plants and take plenty of time training them.
 

Growan

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Well my original concept was 2 8'x4' sheets of mesh hung facing each other horizontally with 2 or 3 bulbs hung between. Pretty soon i realused there would be majour differences in distance from the bulbs si i shelved that idea for a bit.
Then about the same time, i saw the super silos. I held the mesh in a horseshoe shape at roughly the height I think it will need to be as it was never going to make a full silo with one piece. This has an advantage in that the open ended can be filled with a removable section for access.

By rights, I should be able to get the recommended 2' radius and fall 4' short of completing the ring, which the movable trellis could fill?

4 to 6 plants sounds good to me. I might avoid jail time if the numbers are low. After all, it's for my personal medicinal use. Not that that means much to the law in Ireland. Got a bit of catching up to do in that regard.

I might have a deeper look at headband. Not a chance in hell of getting a cut of anything, it's all gotta be from seed until I get a clone or 2 for another round.

Thanks for all the advice everyone, I'll be wanting a lot more once this gets under way!
 

Growan

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Reserva Privada's version of 'Headband' seems to have desirable characteristics. Although reading strain guides is a bit of a pointless exercise most of the time it seems.
I may give it a try unless anybody has tried it and found it to be a bad bet?
A 6 pack of those and maybe I'll try a couple of reg skunk #1 seeds I was gifted of to fill out the trellis and compare structure and suitability.
 

ttystikk

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@Growan I feel privileged indeed to be living in Colorado and in possession of a document that tells the coppers to bugger off if they 'catch' me with less than half a kilo or 50 plants. And I'm a caregiver with authorization for 100 more stems.

Democracy doesn't have shit to do with polling day; that's a convenient fiction continued by the powers that be.

REAL democracy happens when you bitch loudly- logically helps, but not enough- and force them to listen to you because they're in fear of losing their seat on the Bench.

That's your job. Mine will be helping you get your horseshoe running smoother than a champion stallion's canter.
 

Growan

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@Growan I feel privileged indeed to be living in Colorado and in possession of a document that tells the coppers to bugger off if they 'catch' me with less than half a kilo or 50 plants. And I'm a caregiver with authorization for 100 more stems.

Democracy doesn't have shit to do with polling day; that's a convenient fiction continued by the powers that be.

REAL democracy happens when you bitch loudly- logically helps, but not enough- and force them to listen to you because they're in fear of losing their seat on the Bench.

That's your job. Mine will be helping you get your horseshoe running smoother than a champion stallion's canter.
Thanks Tty! I will gladly accept any help offered.
There are one or 2 Irish politicians who support the fight, most notably Luke 'Ming' Flanagan, who are way ahead of the curve when it comes to medical even recreational use. I still think it may be a while before a very stuck in the past Catholic country like Ireland catches up with Colorado. I intend to on it when it does.
 
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