Club 600

Today I got my T8 fixture hung vertically in my veg tent and put the 4 best looking plants into the RDWC system. It's hanging from a light rail so it lights up the full tent and travels through the center of the tent with a bucket in each corner and the res is in the center as well. My buddy snapped one of the best looking BBK plants in half on accident and I am a little bummed about it but he helps me out and expects nothing in return so, how could I bitch? I just put out my vape, a spoon and a little make shift oil rig with some buds and stuff and we get high and work on the grow and I tell him to smoke as much as he wants and I don't feel he takes advantage so it's all good. He helps me a lot now that I'm messed up and we go back about 10 years or so, so whatever he wants is cool with me.
I'll get some pics tomorrow but I'm just way too high and drunk to mess with it right now, LOL.

I got my staples taken out today too and it feels great not to have that irritation anymore. Dr said I don't need the brace anynore either so I'm free as a bird

There is TONS of crackalicious pr0n in the 6 today so, big ups to everyone that posted some. I'll snap pics of the two new seedlings I've got too tomorrow (DOG and NL).

DST said:

Bedtime pics...if you are lucky enough to be at the Hight Times Cannabis Cup, perhaps you'' sample some.

Deep Blue 'Erl. (free with a pack of seeds from you know who!)

Peace, DST

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Im jealous i have been wanting to go to a cannabis cup since forever... And now my Brother from a different mother is taking part in one *Tear* im so proud lol but then again i think your been growing as long as ive been around dst lol
Anyway congrats one of these years ill get my shit together and take me and the family to THE DAM

Some Nugs from the outdoor season and my Casey jones and Purple Trainwreck at 14 days of 12/12.

Glad yer back on the mend Dez!!

Thanks HS, Hopefully the Cup can continue in coming years, what with the way Holland politics are going, who knows.

Wormdrive, that P-trainwreck looks great, I smoked some Cheesewreck the other day and it was fab!

Bit of a sleep in today so I am behind schedule for thirsty girls, gotta get my swerve on....

Peace, DST

DST said:

Bit of a sleep in today so I am behind schedule for thirsty girls, gotta get my swerve on....

Peace, DST

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and we wonder why you overslept.



cof

Who reads the ingredients on their feed bottles?

What are we doing to our substrate when adding booster?

What and how is your plant reacting to these boosters?

All questions that I think are pertinent when looking at this subject. I am growing organically and I can only really speak on behalf of that method as far as my argument for, or should I say, against boosters. Okay, I use PK13/14 and have done for years but recently I didn't bother. In an organic grow as we all know the weight % of Nutrients available to plants differs from that in hydro, i.e it is a lot lower, yet subsequently people will still add relatively high PK ratios to their mix based on the fact that the bottle has some sort of alien or frosty designed picture by some clever graphic artist like my wife. Do you read what it actually says on the side? There ain't much going on in these secret bottles, honestly.
Your plant is still using all the same nutrients and growing the way it wants. Have you ever noticed the rain changing later on in the season? Seems the same to me, that wet stuff that falls from the sky, so who in nature is going around adding boosters to the ground? Yup, NO ONE IS as far as I am aware!!!!!
So my friends of organics and dirty substrates, sell those boosters, save yer cash and grow frosty nugs the organic way. All the boosters do is change the relative mix of your feed. If you add 10ml or whatever to your already standard feed for example, then it just shifts ratios towards the PK end of the scale. But when you do the maths you will be surprised by how LITTLE the ratios change.
Then you are adding it to the substrate, that doesn't suddenly change the avaialble nutrients in the substrate to the ratio you have just added, no, that will again shift it only minutely. Just like when you add cold water to hot water, it doesn't suddenly go to the temperature of the cold water you have just added, it simply drops the temp slightly.

Plants are not stupid, they will take up the nutrients they need and if you have a good substrate with proper micro preperation then you are sorted. The roots and the mycorrhizae will sort out whats what. So in my opinion the plants don't suddenly go, give me a booster, they will change what they do based on the genetics of the plant, and providing you give prepare and provide as needed, I am convinced boosters can be spared. How much nutrients are really left in your soil after flushing etc? You can guarantee the substrate is definitely not nutrient free that for sure.
Even if you live in your own apartment, compost is the future people. Most of us eat eggs, most of us drink tea or coffee, and most of us eat vegetables, and we all grow MJ. Compost the mulch from your bubble bags, add coffee/tea, smash up eggs and put your peelings in a black bag. Keep it moist, add air and turn it now and then and you will be getting your own compost in months.

Grown with a 6-5-6 added feed NPK ratio and my own compost, I didn't feel that these needed boosting.




That's me, I had a little more time this morning as it seems the girls would like another day without watering.

Take it easy and please, discuss!

DST

When will it be ok to put these 2 girls under a 600hps?



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They are currently outdoor and are about 2wks young. Also what should i put them on 12/12 or 18/6?

DST, this grow I have switched over to using bat guanos for my nutrients. I'm trying to work out a feed schedule since this is all new to me. For vegging I'm using a 10-4-1 guano. To that I add some maxi crop to bring up the K to 4 and then add silica to bring the K up to seven so my total npk ratio is 10-4-7. For supplemental waterings I'm using a mix of cow manure and earthworm castings and mycorrhizae. I've been brewing my teas for two to two and a half days before using.

For those who use guano, how often do you feed your plants? It's been a week since I've fed them, gave them a supplemental drink yesterday and straight water the rest of the time.

So here are more pics of my babies and a friends scrog, his out of control scrog. There are seven plants under his screen so he didn't have much chance to bend them under the screen before he ran out of room and had to let them come up through the screen.

The colombian gold is the left front plant. Also in his scrog are super skunks, critical+kali mist and chocolopes.

I supercropped my critical+kali mist and lst for the colombian.

Heads Up
Sweet looking garden. Let's blow one up.



min8040

those babies will do well in 18 hours of 600 watts.


cof

I could do with some advice guys.

I have two tents full of large plants 3 weeks into flower.

I just got an E-mail from my landlord saying he wants to come visit next saturday.
My flat is only 2 bed. The only option we have is if we take down the tents, cram the plants in to the small bathroom and when he arrives pretend that my girlfriend is in the bath.
keep her locked in with the plants untill he leaves. (if he leaves without looking in the bathroom). I cant see him staying long but WHAT IF HE WANTS TO SEE EVERY ROOM?

We have been here a year so Im guessing he wants to come check the place out.

Shitting my pants.

On second thoughts. I have 9 plants. 4 smaller than the others.
We can pull out all our clothes from the wardrobes and put some in there (he wont look obv)
and the rest in the corners of rooms behind chairs etc. covered with whatever we can find.

And spray the fuck out of the flat to get rid of the smell.

Ahhh why is it never easy.

you could try and say your girlfriend does shift work and is sleeping when he arrives and ask him to be quite. My missus said that about me once and they didn`t look in the bedroom. Altough I wasn`t growing and I was doing shift work. All they asked her is their any damage or any problems with that room that she would like to report.
It might work or might not for you.
Do you have a man hole to the roof or under the flat? or any trustworthy mates that can sit them for ya for a day?

Is there anything near the tents that he would be able to claim legal access to like a breaker panel or water heater? What I'm getting at is he's not allowed to just start opening closets and poking around your bedroom(s) and other rooms for no good reason. My two tents are in my bedroom and I'm installing a drape track, this weekend actually, for the drapes I picked up from a second hand store that will pull around and cover one side and the whole front of the tents. Like a hospital bed. Another thing you can do is cover the tents with a tarp of some sort and surround it with large items, empty boxes and stuff and make it look like that's where you store all your excess belongings, you pack rat you! If he still insists on seeing behind that, I'd tell him it's a private stuff and he'd have to give me more time to move the stuff to another location so he'll have to come back. Got an extra mattress or bed lying around. Lean that up against the tent. Or large furniture. Start cooking before his visit. Garlic and onions. If you can hear your fans make sure there's ambient sound going like bassy music. Put a visual fan nearby that is running so it looks like that's the culprit. Don't make it easy for him to enter the room your tents are in. Fix it so the lighting in the room is dim. Unscrew the fixture bulb(s) and put a small dim lamp in a far corner. When you flick the switch for the fixture you pretend the bulb just blew.

Hope those give you some ideas bro.

Good Saturday morning all. I've got lots to do today working on my setup hooking up ventilation, and hanging the drape track I mentioned above. Seedlings are all doing great. I think around 14 of the 19 are up and still counting.

I'll be back later with my 2 cents on your post there D. I agree very much with what you had to say.

indecline said:

I could do with some advice guys.

I have two tents full of large plants 3 weeks into flower.

I just got an E-mail from my landlord saying he wants to come visit next saturday.
My flat is only 2 bed. The only option we have is if we take down the tents, cram the plants in to the small bathroom and when he arrives pretend that my girlfriend is in the bath.
keep her locked in with the plants untill he leaves. (if he leaves without looking in the bathroom). I cant see him staying long but WHAT IF HE WANTS TO SEE EVERY ROOM?

We have been here a year so Im guessing he wants to come check the place out.

Shitting my pants.

On second thoughts. I have 9 plants. 4 smaller than the others.
We can pull out all our clothes from the wardrobes and put some in there (he wont look obv)
and the rest in the corners of rooms behind chairs etc. covered with whatever we can find.

And spray the fuck out of the flat to get rid of the smell.

Ahhh why is it never easy.

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i had to use these blue totes,i put 1-5gal pot,with a plant that is 32" or so,from soil.
i had 5 of them totes full with plants,at the same time as an inspection was going on..
they work real good.

I would rent a moving van, bung everything in that. Drive away. Park. It's not summer, so that shouldn't hurt for a few hours. Clean up your place, nice and neat, no tarps, no tents, no bassy music, no fans, no incense, garlic and onions is great; make a huge pot of curry, lol.

Could always put them in your car if you have 1 and cover the car with a car cover.

Hi Min, Thse are nice little'uns and can definitely go under a 600W now. If you put them on 12/12, they will start to flower fairly soon and you will get small plants with about an ounce apiece if you grow them okay, or you can let them get bigger by vegging them at 18/6 for a while instead, if you have the time and the room.

Min8040 said:

When will it be ok to put these 2 girls under a 600hps?



http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1061/002rqm.jpg
They are currently outdoor and are about 2wks young. Also what should i put them on 12/12 or 18/6?

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My version of the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" lol

Renting a van is great if it's convenient for you but it's not an easy thing to do for a lot of people these days. Then loading them in the van and parking the van in public just seems like a lot more trouble than is needed for a quick inspection that will mostly focus on the main living areas and the equipment. They just want to see that it's not being trashed and that all plumbing and fixtures are working. I'm not suggesting making it look trashy. As a technician I've been in thousands of peoples homes in every room imaginable, and many of them rentals and all of them with a junk room. Even very tidy junk rooms. Some people value their junk more than others. And the music I wasn't suggesting loud, I was just suggesting something with a bit more bottom end to it. It tends to distract from other sounds like inline fans, even at low background volumes.

All I'm saying is figure a way to cover it up for the 1/2 hour they'll be in your home and the 30 seconds that they'll probably look in that particular room. It's not a search warrant. They can't be nosey and invade your privacy and/or move your stuff around unless it's to access something like a hydro panel, water heater, yada, yada.

Remember! This is YOUR "home" they are walking into not theirs. To them it's an investment and that's all. I don't care if your just a private home owner who rents just one house. As soon as they post that ad, they became a business and the property their asset, not their home. As long as the renter pays rent it's their "home".

I'm sorry but I'm a little passionate about this. I've had a couple of landlords try to step over the line and one that did that I had to take to tribunal to protect my right and I'll do it again in a heartbeat. Just because I'm a renter doesn't mean I'm subject to a different class of privacy and rights. I signed a lease one time with a no pets clause in it knowing I had a full grown English Mastiff. Why? Because I knew that the Act for landlords and tenants (in my area) forbids the refusal of children or pets and any restriction or clause in a lease is overridden by the Act. A few days later I entered the local park with my family, including my dog, where my landlord and his family where spending time. I remained living there for almost two years and we left on the best of terms and are still friends.

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cof

Sorry Duchie, didn't mean to touch a nerve and I wasn't trying to specifically critique all your suggestions. I don't rent, but I still try to come off like a neat-freak Jehovah's Witness type.