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Club 315w lec

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by bob223, Mar 31, 2016.

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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    see now im more confused
    lol dude thats the one i was getting was originally looking at so i asked the that site about it they are the ones who sent me to their supplier telling me i would be better off buying this one as with shipping and exchange rate it would be around the same and i would get more light for the price
    i was going to get this https://growershouse.com/ceramic-mh-315w-lec-low-profile-stealth-package 353.40
    but they sent me to the maker for somthing like this https://growershouse.com/sun-system-lec-630-air-cooled-8-in-fixture-277-volt-w-3100k-lamps-cmh but mine comes with a ballest remote cord, hangers, remote and its dimmable with shipping its 358.1 USD with the one time use discount code they gave me as well from sunlight supply inc
    i deleted the email with the pictures or i would post them over saying it looks like this or that i compared it to the Grower’s Choice one as i could not see the ballast on the picture on the growers house site but ya thats the same one im getting but this one in the pic is white and the one im getting is white and black as well as open not sealed like this one is from the sounds of it its the right one to pic or am i wrong again
    only reason im looking at 630 over 315 is because of this deal thats a lil over 650 US off
     
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    NugHeuser

    NugHeuser Well-Known Member

    What size grow area are you working with? Don't buy that cheap dual 315w(630) fixture. You wouldn't be happy with it.
     
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    NugHeuser

    NugHeuser Well-Known Member

    The 315s with the remote reflectors and prism ballasts are the way to go. The cmh bulb fixed in a vertical position puts out much more intensity than the same bulb in the horizontal position, so that's the first thing you should watch for. ALSO- LOW FREQUENCY SQUARE WAVE BALLASTS- You want the ballasts that advertise this, they run much more efficiently. With the sunsystem reflctors the 315s are effective for a 3x3. Im running 2 of those on each side of a true double ended 630, the one from growers choice. I do not like the hood for the 630, it's to small.
    My 630 effectively covers about a 4x4 but as far as intensity goes on my par meter, 18" directly under the fixtures, the 315s measure just as high as my 630, if not higher. And with less heat.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    TedeBoy

    TedeBoy Well-Known Member

    50 day old Mephisto Genetics Autoflowers under one 315W in my 3'x3'x7' tent.

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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    I run the Nanolux CMH 315 NC,
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    I can remove both ballast and make them remote, outside of my grow area. Cuts back big on any heat issue.
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    I run vertical so not only do I run the ballast outside the tent, but also remove the mogul housing. Here is a pic of the ballast and the mogul housing, both are removed to run vertical.
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    Here is the configuration with the ballast removed and just the mogul housing and reflector are used for horizontal grow.
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    And here is the final configuration for hanging the lamp vertical with the mogul housing and reflector removed.
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    I did have to buy the extension cords to run from the ballast to the lamps. Was not that much.
    Here they are in the vertical mode with both lamps.
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    GR
     
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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    going with a 4x4 space. thats why i was looking at this deal but they said nothing about the vertical ones being better all i keep being told is that the 315s are better than the 630w singles so that was what i was looking for. then i was offered this one and was thinking well if i get this at least i got the ballast and cables so if i wanted to change hoods i can run two 315s with two hoods as this ballast has both connectors for two bulbs and its square wave

    from what i see from your setup would just buying 2 of the 315w conversion kits work ballast, connectors bulbs . from what i see the ballasts are the same only the Nanolux settings cant be changed. i like the idea of removing the hood and running the ballast outside the tent so is there any point in getting a hood vs just buying the ballast cables and bulbs with some hangers. just trying to get the best setup for spending the least amount on lighting as i still got to get other things and can upgrade as time goes but lighting is kinda important
     
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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    biggest question because it sounds mostly the problem with the one im planning on getting is the hood cant i just take that off and hang the bulbs?
    as this is the ballast it comes with i like the fact that if i take the hood away from the ballast i can still run two bulbs with the cables off the ballast
    ◆ 630W(2x315W) Low Frequency,Square wave,Soft start,CMH Ballast. ◆ Operating Frequency: 140-160Hz (Low Frequency) ◆ With short-circuit/circuit overheat/ lamp-failure protection,etc, Multi-aspect protection circuitry. Internal RF shielding. ◆ Matchs well with 2 pcs Philips GreenPower Elite Agro 315W lamp. ◆ Support Lamp Type: Ceramic metal halide(CMH),MH/QMH,HPS. Lamp Type Bulb (recommend) CMH 315W, 210W MH/QMH 350W,315W HPS 250W ◆ Patented output control maintains maximum PAR value over lamp life. ◆ It can ignite CMH lamp up to 66 feet/20 meters away. ◆ Power Factor(PF):>0.99, Efficiency:>91% , Crest Factor(CF):<1.5 ◆ Total Harmonic Distortion(THD):<6% ◆ Multi-voltage Input: AC 120V / 208V / 240V, 50/60HZ ◆ Output voltage: 2 x AC 100V (power supply to two 315W bulbs) ◆ Temperature: Ta=40℃ , Tc=70℃ . Packaging Weight: 6.2 Kg ◆ Power Outputs: Dimmable ( with LED display ) 0W(OFF),280W,420W,630W,700W ( Support IR remote control ); or 280-700W ( with 0-10V dimmer ) . Warranty Period: 3 years
     
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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    this is the ballast, if not i will go with recommended set up
     

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    full of purple

    full of purple Well-Known Member

    Interested in this ballast also
    Waiting for more info and opinions
     
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    full of purple

    full of purple Well-Known Member

    Who sells this ballast?
     
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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    thats the thing its not for sale yet thats why i was wondering if its worth spending on. i was talking to one shop owner and then he sent me to sunlight supply and i explained how i was looking at CMH and was looking for a system to try out and see how it works, then he put me in contact with the another branch of the company and gave me a huge discount, im basically just paying for the ballast and 3 day shipping. the hood remote hangers and extra bulbs are all free i was going to order this from but then now i dont know. i know its going to be for sunlight supply when released but thats about all the info i have on it other than the some specs
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Sun system has a bare bulb vert cord and socket for bi pin 315's like they do for hps/mh now

    It comes with a hanger and stress relieved cord.

    Thought I should mention as I saw it in the hydro store recently in case anyone was still diy'ing.
     
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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    I got a good deal on my setup, 1st 315 was $200 including a Phillips 3100 bulb. The second I got for $248 plus the cost of the bulb, think it was 80+.
    So under $600 for both lights and bulbs.
    I would get a hood to run if you want to run a horizontal grow. Don't think you can buy it without the hood. I understand you want to spend the least to get the most, but don't fuck around, get good equipment man, or you will pay for it in the end. Hell I started with a 10 bulb homemade CFL fixture to a LED to a 400 W MH/ HPS setup, to the 315's now I am happy, just wish I had started with this, would have saved a lot of stress and monies.

    GR
     
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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    I am thinking I got the cords from Growers House, not sure though. Did not get hangers and the such, I use chains to hang my lamps.
    If you have extensions for HPS/MH, they make a part you can screw into the HPS/MH socket to make it a Bi Pin for the 315, found it out after I bought the two of them, I have 2 extensions for HPS lamps could have bought the BiPin part.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    I am saying you can now buy a remote ballast and a vert bare bulb mount dedicated cord. I haven't looked for it online. It's $25 just like the dedicated hps vert cords. The socket is built in already with 1 metal v hanger attached.

    Growers house would likely carry it.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    ya i got 200w of clfs going right now main reason im looking at getting in to cmh now lol plants getting to big for lighting so i dont want to buy a system that will burn out or not last. my buddy got a cheap one and it blow after a day. thats why i was looking warrenty and a good model from what they told me if it fails in 3 years they will next day ship me a new one as soon as they get shipping info for the old one and from what i hear sun systems are good and this is made by sunlight supply the same people who make sun systems and this is coming from the company’s Northwest Distribution Center
    the hood i can switch out at any time if i dont like it as i get extra cables for the ballast with this offer im looking mostly at the ballast as it has connections for two lights even after i disconnect the hood over all the ones i have seen that only run one light
     
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    clouds

    clouds Well-Known Member

    other then a different ballast the one that comes with the one im looking at has a 2x315W dual output and this one has no hood/reflector that mine comes with this is basicly what im getting but with two Sun System LEC Inner Sun PGZX Socket Assembly cords and 2 315 philips Elite Agro bulbs 2 Ushio back ups added for free for 358.1 us and thats with 3-5 day shipping
    thank you i did not know what the cords are called in infor for mine they are just called ballast cables and then has the pic. i have pics of the whole thing just no cam or scanner right now
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    All of the sun system 630 models take 2 315 watt cmh bulbs.

    I have the sun system vertical open remote reflector and a galaxy ballast I got from growers house last Black Friday for about $350 delivered.

    And growers house has a cmh comparison blog that shows the Phillips 3100 has the highest par of all of them.

    And the ushio 4K has the most uv.

    Honestly I am a bit confused what you are looking at from them from your posts. But sun system lamps and ballasts are made to run Phillips lamps to spec.

    I would not buy an off brand eBay set up. But the prism ballasts seem to be still working for everyone since last year when I ran my tests in club 315.
     
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    full of purple

    full of purple Well-Known Member

    Where can I get this deal?
     

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