Clu058 1825 vs Quamtum board

[Rocket Soul]

@Mariometal so... Why dont you just buy the stuff from cobkits and pay customs and everything yourself, its bound to be cheaper as you say, making a thread just to complain that your local led supplier isnt cheap seems a bit of waste of time. No matter what we say here on riu he can charge what he wants.

You seemed already know that 4 cobs cant do the same job as 4 qbs, so whats the point here? It seems a bit petty

Infact why dont you import and sell these components yourself as there seems to be a business opportunity here? I think you already thought about this and decided that it would be too much of a hassle. Yes indeed, a 1400$ hassle.

We are where we are today, with cobs leds etc cause people on this forum started looking for supplier outside the local suppliers for a better price (anybody remember what cobs cost before Jerry Kingbrite?), and eventually setup their own business in stiff competition with eachother. Cobkits is a nice guy but hes not a fool, if there was no competition on cobs he would be charging much more.




@Chirulazo first you complain that the "gringos" (which is a bit of a racial slurr, not all of us want to be lumped in with the US, and nobody here is calling you Argentinian ;p) arent respecting your work in chile, dont listen to us, and then you complain that we shouldnt be listening to your unhappy customer.
Here in Spain we also have customs and sales tax,shilping and everything, didnt stop anyone from getting stuff imported.
1400$ for a 600W fixture of 4 overdriven cobs is expensive, anywhere. Offer your clients something bettrr or you will soon see your competitors stealing your business.

Algo de huevos, chicos

Rant over

 

[Chirulazo]

@Mariometal so... Why dont you just buy the stuff from cobkits and pay customs and everything yourself, its bound to be cheaper as you say, making a thread just to complain that your local led supplier isnt cheap seems a bit of waste of time. No matter what we say here on riu he can charge what he wants.

You seemed already know that 4 cobs cant do the same job as 4 qbs, so whats the point here? It seems a bit petty

Infact why dont you import and sell these components yourself as there seems to be a business opportunity here? I think you already thought about this and decided that it would be too much of a hassle. Yes indeed, a 1400$ hassle.

We are where we are today, with cobs leds etc cause people on this forum started looking for supplier outside the local suppliers for a better price (anybody remember what cobs cost before Jerry Kingbrite?), and eventually setup their own business in stiff competition with eachother. Cobkits is a nice guy but hes not a fool, if there was no competition on cobs he would be charging much more.




@Chirulazo first you complain that the "gringos" (which is a bit of a racial slurr, not all of us want to be lumped in with the US, and nobody here is calling you Argentinian ;p) arent respecting your work in chile, dont listen to us, and then you complain that we shouldnt be listening to your unhappy customer.
Here in Spain we also have customs and sales tax,shilping and everything, didnt stop anyone from getting stuff imported.
1400$ for a 600W fixture of 4 overdriven cobs is expensive, anywhere. Offer your clients something bettrr or you will soon see your competitors stealing your business.

Algo de huevos, chicos

Rant over

Hey bro.. Its really hard to address this totally out of context discussion. I never addressed people here calling them gringos, never implied they where not respecting my work, how could you if you were not even part of the diacussion where that comment waa taken of and even more how could you deminish our work if you dont even know it and i have never showed it here either, its totally missunderstood from a comment taken out of context and poorly translated, it is this guy, a fellow of my own country who is doing it, he just made a reallt bad translation and took things way off context putting a comment that was originaly written in spanish in a totally far away discussion with a really poor translation totally distorting meaning of my words, and as for the gringo slurr, in my country, when talking about growing weed, gringo is a good thing to say, really well considered, and its just the common way its reffered to the best growers like achieving the gringo level of growing.

That comment wasnt even made in this forum it is totally taken out of context and poorly translated.

As for the product, first its not 1,400 but more around the 1,300, and belive me, if you were to face our country's scenario you would think differently, dont know if you read but standard retailer will sell you 600 watts of 3070s at 2,600 dollars, if ours is pricey, what can you say aboit thoae... 1,300 for much better equipment seems like an excellent option given the context. Here they will sell you chinesse cheap panels rebranded for higher prices than ours for much lower quality and performance, you would have to be here and face our market conditions to get a clearer picture.

Also theres a lot more added to the system, its not just a couple of components wired together and off we go to sell. Much more work and parts to be built to reach the final product.

Im fact, it is we who grabbed that opportunity you are talking about, offering for the first time a real high end led fixture at even better prices than what regular market was offering much lower equipment over here. You know, here LED fixtures are even offered by nominal watts, many people belive they are buying more watts and get the feeling its cheaper. We where also the first ones to start offering real watts, not nominal watts. We are trying to do an honest job here. Our costs are gonna be hard to estimate since we also need parts built by us that you wont find in the market, and we are not going for cheap materials nor process to build them.

Its hard for you guys here to analise our work without having any details regarding it, this discussion ia totally out of context and some stuff being mentioned is born just from some missleading words and translations being posted here.

 

[Chirulazo]

@Mariometal so... Why dont you just buy the stuff from cobkits and pay customs and everything yourself, its bound to be cheaper as you say, making a thread just to complain that your local led supplier isnt cheap seems a bit of waste of time. No matter what we say here on riu he can charge what he wants.

You seemed already know that 4 cobs cant do the same job as 4 qbs, so whats the point here? It seems a bit petty

Infact why dont you import and sell these components yourself as there seems to be a business opportunity here? I think you already thought about this and decided that it would be too much of a hassle. Yes indeed, a 1400$ hassle.

We are where we are today, with cobs leds etc cause people on this forum started looking for supplier outside the local suppliers for a better price (anybody remember what cobs cost before Jerry Kingbrite?), and eventually setup their own business in stiff competition with eachother. Cobkits is a nice guy but hes not a fool, if there was no competition on cobs he would be charging much more.




@Chirulazo first you complain that the "gringos" (which is a bit of a racial slurr, not all of us want to be lumped in with the US, and nobody here is calling you Argentinian ;p) arent respecting your work in chile, dont listen to us, and then you complain that we shouldnt be listening to your unhappy customer.
Here in Spain we also have customs and sales tax,shilping and everything, didnt stop anyone from getting stuff imported.
1400$ for a 600W fixture of 4 overdriven cobs is expensive, anywhere. Offer your clients something bettrr or you will soon see your competitors stealing your business.

Algo de huevos, chicos

Rant over

Just to clear that gringo stuff, please, i hate unfairness and my words are being missused in an unfair way giving them another meaning.

When i said 'here we will be demeaned by being chilean' lets take that comment into its original context.

That was written originally in spanish, and in Chile, not here in this forum. So, 'here' was not reffering to here in this forum, like implying 'here' (in this forum) we will be drmeaned by being chilean, no, that was not the meaning, that 'here' was written in Chile meaning 'here (in chile) you (chileans) will diminish our work for being chileans'... Why? Becauae its a common thing to happen in my country, foreign stuff is always considered better just for being from another more developed country and our own people work is often considered inferior just because its made by chileans, so, with that comment i was implying that some people in my own country would diminish our work for being chilean and not german or US or any other developed country.

Thats why you dont take others words out of context like that, meaning gets totally distorted... Imagine my reaction when i come here and see my words being used in this way and people in this community beliving i was somehow insulting them when i never ever meant to address any words to any of you here, i had no clue i was gonna get translated and my words posted here as i belive noone here also thought their words were going to be posted in another discussion taking place in chile where some of your words are also being reposted over there. Really strange way to address a discussion.

Well i hope this can help clear bit this whole mess... Im sitting here in a very unfair position where ive been taken to, being questioned by stuff i never even said but seemed to have said due to some really missleading and out of context comments.

Good vibes for you bro and i appologize for such a bad atmosphere i feel this whole thing brought up..

 

[nfhiggs]

Here they will sell you chinesse cheap panels rebranded for higher prices than ours for much lower quality and performance,

Yeah, that goes on here in the US too. Just look at the two guys shilling for the "American LED Company" and their $1400 "MJ12" light, which is a rebranded light from Alibaba that sells for $400 on Alibaba.

 

[Randomblame]

Put him on ignore and do not answer or comment any posts in the future!!!
Instead, ask your satisfied customers to give positive reviews and publish their results. You will see that satisfied customers are willing to refute such claims.

One can not compare international purchase prices with locale final prices. A CXB3590 still costs +50$ here.. when you get them at all..., lol!
In retail it is necessary to calculate with +130-150%, 100% maybe if you have no rent for workshops and warehouses. Everything below this margin you can not keep in the long run!!!
Salaries, rent, taxes, shipping, custom fee's, suppliers, warranty cases, and so on... All this costs a lot of money and must be taken into account, "normal" people should know that!
Do not worry about ONE hater, trust in your satisfied customer base. Send them a round email and ask them for their opinion. You'll be surprised how much are willing to comment his claims.

PS. How about a link? Datasheet, photos ...? Anything..? I'm curious now ..