cloning off the clones.

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by dingleberrykush, Feb 26, 2011.

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    dingleberrykush

    dingleberrykush Member

    is it possible to clone off of a clone, that is not a mother, but a brand new 21 year old? Not a TEEN, but a little bigger than that....per-say...14-15 inches in height. vegging.:idea:
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    kepitgrn

    kepitgrn Active Member

    yes it will work..
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    dingleberrykush

    dingleberrykush Member

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    taipanspunk

    taipanspunk Active Member

    ...every clone you clone off of turns the original into mother...
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    zubey91

    zubey91 Well-Known Member

    i hear the potency goes down
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    taint

    taint Active Member

    No it does not.
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    wiseguy316

    wiseguy316 Well-Known Member

    potency may go down after about 200 generations of taking clones from clones, but until then i think your fine.
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    taint

    taint Active Member

    No it will not.
    Dude yer clueless quit giving advice about shit you know nothing about.
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    wiseguy316

    wiseguy316 Well-Known Member

    provide facts as to your wisdom, or the shut the hell up!
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    Barrelhse

    Barrelhse Well-Known Member

    I've seen advice that says to veg them for 6 wks before taking clones from them for best results.
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    taint

    taint Active Member

    ok here's a pre 1988 g13 cut.
    I've also seen a nl grown in successive gens since the 80's.
    What you got to back yer totally bogus claims?

    Attached Files:

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    budalushious

    budalushious Active Member

    Taint shittin you he's absolutly correct...........
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    wiseguy316

    wiseguy316 Well-Known Member

    1988 isn't 200 generations of cloning, work on your math. Whether it be genetic shift of problems from clones past on to clones. When a cell replicates, there's always a chance that something will go wrong and the genetics will not be copied perfectly. Logic would say that the further away from seed you get, the more chances the DNA has to make a bad copy. It will take a long time not going to dispute that, however it will happen eventually. How's that for bogus?
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    taint

    taint Active Member

    How the fuck is that not 200 gens,I don't keep momsall cuts are taken in successive gens.
    Yer not making a clone yer taking a cut.
    The only possible thing that can be passed on is disease if the cuts are taken from an infected plant.
    Now I showed you pics and splained the dealio,show me a pic or a link or some lame c&p to back yer baseless assertations.
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    taint

    taint Active Member

    I will ask the same of you.
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    phyzix

    phyzix Well-Known Member

    Unless a mutation occurs you can clone indefinitely.

    For all practical purposes, you can re-clone for any amount of "generations."
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    Emerald Isles

    Emerald Isles Active Member

    taking clones from clones DOES HAVE an impact on the overall quality of future babies, as a rule of thumb 7th Gen is as far as I recommend, Mr Wiseguy needs to grow up and chill
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    taint

    taint Active Member

    ok show me the plants that did that or show me a study or show me..................anything.
    Having personally done this with cuts for decades I'm purty sure I'm correct.
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    wiseguy316

    wiseguy316 Well-Known Member

    By Ed Rosenthal - Thursday, November 7 2002 (I'm sure you have never heard of him)
    Clones and clones from clones retain their potency. Single lines have been reproduced asexually by cloning for more than 20 years with no loss of potency or odor/taste.

    Yet the question of genetic drift over many generations is not unreasonable. Mutations occur on a regular basis in asexual as well as sexual reproduction. Genetic researcher Barbara McClintock has discovered that genes jump around on chromosomes, and recent studies have proved that they also jump from plant to plant. Any change in gene patterns, whether the gene is on the chromosome or has broken apart and lost or gained material, results in changes in the plant. Thus the variety can gradually shift over a period of time.

    Clones propagated over many generations along separate lines will look slightly different. Perhaps the answer is to preserve the mother plant for as long as possible ? but even a single plant will exhibit some drift. Remember that during sexual reproduction mutations are more likely to occur than during the asexual reproductive process of cloning.

    Viruses sometimes attack cannabis. They can affect the plants' health, growth and potency as well as affecting the genetic makeup of the plant. Once a plant is infected with a virus, it can never recover. For that reason, more than one plant of a special line should be maintained.

    For all its faults, cloning plants is the best way to preserve a plant's particular characteristics with the fewest genetic changes.
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    wiseguy316

    wiseguy316 Well-Known Member

    grow up, he is the one that started mouthing and called me clueless , when I was right, read a few more post's before spewing off.

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