Cannasutraorganics
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I've read many books. Survival of the fittest is what that is. Evolution is evolving. Try again. Plants mutate. Animals transport seeds long distances. Plants adapt by survival of th fitest. That's not evolving.
Cloning a clone of a clone?
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Gquebed
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Ah...yes it is. The fittest survive. And so they are the ones that adapt/mutate/evolve to the new environment over generations...because the weak ones die.
That this needs to be spelled out for you is proof that you are not clear on the subject. Or rather not clear on logic...
Ace Yonder
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But that IS evolving. Mutation + Selection = Evolution. Typically, this process is extremely slow, but like many things in nature it can often act atypically. Random Mutation and selection by Survival of the Fittest is a slow process (Except in the case of a major catastrophe, such as a meteor strike or a super-volcano eruption, in which case certain traits or genes can be selected for over only a few generations when lack of those genes causes mass die offs), selective breeding is a quick process. For instance, in the wild it would take a very long time (perhaps never) for Wolves to evolve into Chihuahuas, but we as humans made that happen over an incredibly short stretch of time by selectively breeding them. But it IS evolution. Survival of the Fittest, Selective Breeding, Gene Splicing/modifying, these are ALL forms of evolution.
Ace Yonder
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Yes, we actually are. Even if it's happening slowly, it is happening. And with humans, it actually happens pretty quickly since we are so prone to mutation. And it's happening faster.
"Explosive population growth is driving human evolution to speed up around the world, according to a new study.
The pace of change accelerated about 40,000 years ago and then picked up even more with the advent of agriculture about 10,000 years ago, the study says. And while humans are evolving quickly around the world, local cultural and environmental factors are shaping evolution differently on different continents." http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071211-human-evolution.html
And it will start happening MUCH faster if diseases like Ebola, Aids, Swine Flu, Bird Flue, etc. keep spreading like they are.
johnnybigtree
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coconutbeach
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The protocol for cannabis has been used effectively and sold commercially for over ten years now. Wang et al published the first papers because they could do the research in China. Microclone tissue culture kits are sold in hydro stores and online at planttc.com to medically and recreationally allowed states and contain both the BA and TDZ recipes for cannabis multiplication.
Kevin the Great
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Cloning a clone will eventually cause genetic drift. I was a horticultural sciences major in college and one of my botany experiments was researching the genetic drift of cuttings taken from successive clones. I used coleus as the test plant as it is easy to grow and cuttings root quickly.
The parts of a healthy coleus that are in brighter light respond with less chlorophyll in the leaf structure and thus create a beautiful array of colors. Cuttings taken from various parts of a single mother would tend to maintain coloration closer to that of when they were cut rather than reverting back to the mother plants color. Successive cloning was easily able to exploit the fact and within a few generations I was able to produce a "clone" that was nothing like the mother. Seeds taken from these cuttings were unpredictable but mainly reverted back to the stable parentage.
Cannabis clones are relatively stable but I'd get new seed stock every 4th or 5th gen. Some people have the incredible luck of maintaining a stable clone lineage for years, most wont.
The parts of a healthy coleus that are in brighter light respond with less chlorophyll in the leaf structure and thus create a beautiful array of colors. Cuttings taken from various parts of a single mother would tend to maintain coloration closer to that of when they were cut rather than reverting back to the mother plants color. Successive cloning was easily able to exploit the fact and within a few generations I was able to produce a "clone" that was nothing like the mother. Seeds taken from these cuttings were unpredictable but mainly reverted back to the stable parentage.
Cannabis clones are relatively stable but I'd get new seed stock every 4th or 5th gen. Some people have the incredible luck of maintaining a stable clone lineage for years, most wont.
a mongo frog
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Fuck the gentic drift must happen after 8 years, right?
Kevin the Great
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I was purposely trying to exploit drift, taking cuttings from plants that were on the verge of light bleaching and some from plants that were refrigerated throughout their entire lives and given very little light.
If you're taking clones from healthy plants under steady and repeated conditions then I'm sure the drift would be minimalized.
a mongo frog
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Oh shit I'm sorry. I should of read more. I just jumped in. I apologize.