Clone only strains

Bad Karma

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The dud syndrome or whatever it's called is real. Basically the plant grows and looks super healthy but when it's finished it doesn't get as frosty as it should, smell/taste is lacking and bag appeal there isn't any really. As oswizzle said tho it looks like it went semi did not fully cus you have some nice frost ther but not how GG4 normally looks
I remember you mentioning this before and saying it depended on the branches cut to make the clones. GG#4 can throw out some dud branches at times, if you clone those branches, you get dud GG#4 plants, and ultimately end up with dud buds.
 

Odin*

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Stem nematodes do severe damage to crops. As in, you wouldn't be harvesting herb. Unless legitimate tests were performed, I think it's just a "scape goat" (pertaining to herb).

Some strains look/smell/smoke just about the same, whether they are "perfect", or not. Some, in order to achieve that "magic" need to be nailed just right, some fall somewhere in the middle. My "Mystery" has to be pretty close to the "bullseye" to finish dense and deep/dark purple. Otherwise, you get green fluff (or something in the middle). Glue seems to have a sweet spot, icey faint pastel green, hints of purple/violet, loads of thick calyxes, strong sour cat piss fuel nose (undertones of earthy nutty chocolate coffee). Missing the mark leaves it darker, less icey, fewer calyxes (or none at all), and the nose doesn't develop beyond the earthy nutty chocolate coffee into the "pungent funk" (in my experience, the "sour cat piss fuel" is the nose it graduates to).


I haven't experienced dud branches or plants.
 

oswizzle

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Odin ... no offense buddy... you said it yourself... you have no experience with Stem Nematodes... I however do.. and if you've never had them... you have no CLUE what your talking about... I'm an expert on these bastards and Broad Mites ..etc etc ... ICMAG has all my work and data posted there about the topic... I and a few other have actually seen them under microscopes go ask breeder OBS.. anyways.. here is some info I made notes of b4 I discovered the problem
Depending on your environment conditions will dictate the level of outbreak... full blown DUD vs Branches

Same Strain.. healthy on the left .. super full blown DUD on the right... notice the Leaves are Tiny..well
Stem Nematodes inject pectinase into your plants and that begins to wreck havoc on the plants immune system...it shuts off the SAR system... thats why the Trichs begin to become less dense ..


 

Odin*

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@oswizzle You said you've seen them under microscope, I'm not going to argue with that. Weird that they would localize in a branch, rather than attack the whole plant.

That pic of the "tweens" reminds me of crap I've dealt with. I've received clones that looked similar to the sick plant on the right. I've never received "healthy" clones and have been able to nurse the vast majority back to health. The ones that looked like the one on the right never recovered and were tossed. Could have been the issue.

While we're on the subject, how do you go about getting rid of the lil' fuckers?


Still, I don't think those with "Glue" issues (the majority, that is) are dealing with these evil "stem gnomes". I've seen less than perfect glue from individuals and then they get it straightened out into fire. It sits amongst the not so "finicky", but somewhat "picky" strains.
 

Norcalknugs

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Haha I just happened to pass by a dispensary in Santa Cruz on a road trip. Had great luck with this place about a year ago. They had so many more it was hard to decide. Got gg4 again too cause I lost it. But I'm pretty stoked to see how they turn out. Time for a nice long veg. :)
Damn was in Santa Cruz right around that time. Didn't have time to make any stops though. What dispensary if you don't mind me asking? Love Santa Cruz and will have to stop there next time we visit, that's a whole lot of fire.
 

Bob Zmuda

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Damn was in Santa Cruz right around that time. Didn't have time to make any stops though. What dispensary if you don't mind me asking? Love Santa Cruz and will have to stop there next time we visit, that's a whole lot of fire.
No worries man! It was Kind People's collective.

I appreciate you just asking for the dispensary. I have about 10 people I've never interacted with in my inbox asking for free shit. SMH.
 
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