Citi? Vero? Is this the end of Cree?

JorgeGonzales said:

In fairness, I read a lot of the girls in Dubai are highly paid sex workers. I mean they were lied to and practically kidnapped, but at least they are paid.

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I know "lied to and practically kidnapped" is not the same as "kidnapped," but paying the downtrodden doesn't make lesser exploitation any more okay. Not saying you think that, just pointing out that paying someone a relatively high wage is not an excuse for mistreating them.

On-topic justification for the social justice tangent: the competition to Cree chips that the Citi's are providing now (not forgetting Vero) is really intriguing. I can't help but wonder how much more efficient they can get in the near future, or whether five years from now we'll still be loving the chips we buy today.

JorgeGonzales said:

In fairness, I read a lot of the girls in Dubai are highly paid sex workers. I mean they were lied to and practically kidnapped, but at least they are paid.

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I'm sure their passport holder gets 90%.

BM9AGS said:

Was recently in Dubai..... human trafficking or slavery is still going strong, especially Asian and eastern euro women/girls

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The world is a much nastier and evil place than most of us realize.

no 99% of the humans are to stupid, If ppl stop buying mars,coca cola, and all the other shit brands the companies will by nature stop. Yes its simple like that

emepher said:

I know "lied to and practically kidnapped" is not the same as "kidnapped," but paying the downtrodden doesn't make lesser exploitation any more okay. Not saying you think that, just pointing out that paying someone a relatively high wage is not an excuse for mistreating them.

On-topic justification for the social justice tangent: the competition to Cree chips that the Citi's are providing now (not forgetting Vero)

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dont forget getian. and we havent tested luminus cxm-32 gen 3 yet....

I say this to the competition
12 plants(haze), with 9 day of veg and 9.5 weeks Flowering and 8x CXB3590.
670G of Rock hard nuggets and 50G of more fluffy things and stems,

optzulu said:

no 99% of the humans are to stupid, If ppl stop buying mars,coca cola, and all the other shit brands the companies will by nature stop. Yes its simple like that

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remember that when monsanto weed is in all the 7-11s in 5 years

nice. how hard did you run the cxbs and what is that haze crossed with?

I run all my cobs on 50 max 60W becouse of my heatsinks, so in this case 1400MA
This is the original cut only Amnesia haze nobody knows what the cross is,
The only story we know is that a guy in Holland did a selection of over 1000 plants and find this one special Psycho , a fast Amnesia Haze with insane yield smell and taste strong against fungus and stress. He let his friend taste it and his eyes where like woothh and then he said the magic number 9.5 weeks No wayyy was the reaction totally psycho, so Psycho that he betrayal his friend and tried to steal the cuttings. So everything gets destroy and he was left with 4 cuttings .

nice was wondering as the 9.5 seems so short

Yup and you can see having here more then that is waste of a time and money.View attachment 3781987

It does not have big buds but they are very compact and hard for example this is a 10G Nugget

def. well finished!

how big is that cup for scale?

damn, so 400w 12 plants and 670 grams of legit nugs. thats awesome

Why don't you use the V22 chips? The same performance for less $

optzulu said:

I say this to the competition
12 plants(haze), with 9 day of veg and 9.5 weeks Flowering and 8x CXB3590.
670G of Rock hard nuggets and 50G of more fluffy things and stems,

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and thats all in a 4 * 4 tent? 400-480watt only? everbody can tell stuff like that. i dont belive this.


My last grow in 4*4 tent with 340watt cxb 3590, i got around 590gramm rock hard nuggs and and 90g fluffy shit.
here a pciture

Mars Reflector Series

Data shows our reflector lights are selling great too. When most of LED grow light factories are making COB lights, we listen to our growers, they were paying more attention to the output, so we make the reflector light to reduce the decrease of lumens output. Result tells us that this light is better than the COB, because COB can not mix spectrums well and some time the light can not come out after double lenses. From growers review, feedback, Our reflector lights are very good for mother plants, veg stage plants, and greenhouse grow vegetables. If you grow medical plants, this light can get higher THC than other lights. More details

https://www.mars-hydro.com/

This actually made me laugh really loud and rambunctiously, hopefully the people voting Mars are just facetious.

DankaDank said:

Data shows our reflector lights are selling great too

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well that settles it! best shit ever!

DankaDank said:

because COB can not mix spectrums well and some time the light can not come out after double lenses.

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ok now my head hurts

Malocan said:

and thats all in a 4 * 4 tent? 400-480waWtt only? everbody can tell stuff like that. i dont belive this.


My last grow in 4*4 tent with 340watt cxb 3590, i got around 590gramm rock hard nuggs and and 90g fluffy shit.
here a pciture

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What genetics you using ? And how much experience do you have with this pheno ? Do you use cuts ore grow from seed ? I use RFX-1 with ebb &flow and feed them every 2 days. Do you pre-heat before the lamps go on and after they go off ? and the list goes on.....

I use 32 liters crates and put 2 plants in each one, 6 crates fit perfect in a 120cmx120cm space, and I hang under every 3 crates a led bar with 200W cxb3590 @1400ma

Kevin the Great said:

Why don't you use the V22 chips? The same performance for less $

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These are looking like somewhere around the Citi 1212, although in the 50v variety, so are these more akin to to a 1812 comparison?. Kind of impressed actually for $13 at Digi, but were looking post Christmas ....urrrgh

optzulu said:

no 99% of the humans are to stupid, If ppl stop buying mars,coca cola, and all the other shit brands the companies will by nature stop. Yes its simple like that

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Hey, I like Coca-Cola! Not a big fan of the company of course, but nothing goes better with pizza than an icy-cold Coke - not even a beer! But yeah, I've been making a conscious effort for a while now not to buy from crumby companies and to support the good ones. I'd much rather buy from Cobby or Growmau5 and Cutter or someone like that and do things myself, though we have to acknowledge that not everyone has the technical expertise to build a lamp without blowing something up or hurting themselves, which is not to say that it's that hard either. Most folks reading this thread probably don't need Mars and the like, but the masses aren't as informed and may not have the knowledge or resources to go any other route.

Buying from crappy companies doesn't always boil down to stupidity, unfortunately. Convenience, perceived value, tight budgets, availability of alternatives, tradition, differences in quality, and pure ignorance are also important factors that influence consumer purchases.

EDIT: You wanna buy crap from me for good money? I'll be happy to sell you some top-notch turds!