hillbill

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Copper Chem F2s and Black Gold F2s in flower in my tent. Lots of Chems in those two! As time goes on the 4 Copper Chem F2s look more and more like each other. Both have been easy to grow and very slow to show sex with few, if any, preflowers. They just start flowering and very quickly once they start. Looks like one of the BG F2s is gonna get rangy.
 

SCJedi

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I plan on doing that down the road, if you find any good tips post em up here.
I found some info from Chimera, et al, on the interwebs. I'll digest it and report back, with a link.

OK, 750ppm mixture of pure ethephon (Bayer AG) in DI. Spray once a week for first 3 weeks to get enough pistils on a male plant for seeds. Spray up to 6 weeks to get "buds".

Florel is only 500ppm so maybe 50% more sprays? I see it at Home Depot and Ace Hardware here where I live.

There are other, more readily available ethephon products like Verve (21%) but we likely cannot get it here in California as it is considered hazmat for shipping purposes and is intended for turf use. I think its smallest container is 2.5g.

I don't want seeds I just want to see crystal development and/or terpene profiles that "might" get donated to progeny.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1907825&postcount=57
 
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macsnax

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I found some info from Chimera, et al, on the interwebs. I'll digest it and report back, with a link.

OK, 750ppm mixture of pure ethephon (Bayer AG) in DI. Spray once a week for first 3 weeks to get enough pistils on a male plant for seeds. Spray up to 6 weeks to get "buds".

Florel is only 500ppm so maybe 50% more sprays? I see it at Home Depot and Ace Hardware here where I live.

There are other, more readily available ethephon products like Verve (21%) but we likely cannot get it here in California as it is considered hazmat for shipping purposes and is intended for turf use. I think its smallest container is 2.5g.

I don't want seeds I just want to see crystal development and/or terpene profiles that "might" get donated to progeny.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1907825&postcount=57
That's great info. And that's exactly why I want to reverse males too. I seen a video with fletch from Archive. He was talking about only something like 10% of males are true males. The other 90 will be wishy washy. He also said he likes to reverse males, to see terpene profiles, etc like you mentioned.
 

Bakersfield

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I'm having a hell of a time finding a descent male. The goji og was a bust, the my oran jones male threw pistils and now the slurricane male threw pistils so I chopped his ass too.

Thats the breaks when you can only run a few beans at a time.

Think its time to just reverse a clone.
DJ Short and many other breeders believe that a male that throws stigma towards the end of flower, to be a desirable trait.
I was busy trimming today and Mean Gene from Afficionado/Freeborn Selections was talking about it on the Pot Cast. https://m.soundcloud.com/the_pot_cast/episode-12-mean-gene-of-freeborn-selections-afficionado
 

macsnax

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SSGrower

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DJ Short and many other breeders believe that a male that throws stigma towards the end of flower, to be a desirable trait.
I was busy trimming today and Mean Gene from Afficionado/Freeborn Selections was talking about it on the Pot Cast. https://m.soundcloud.com/the_pot_cast/episode-12-mean-gene-of-freeborn-selections-afficionado
If I have 10% the experience or knowledge of either gene or dj it would be a miracle. I respectfully disagree tho. Nanners on a female at end of flower is not seen as desireable, why would pistils on a male be? To me this would be dioceoious, desireable for propogation maybe but seems if we want to continue the human intervention to create a monoceocious plant, those are the traits we should be emphasizing.
My .02, im probably due some change.
 
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