Christians need to stop attacking gays!!

Padawanbater2

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I'd like a comprehensive explanation of Keandar's beliefs, if he'd be so inclined to offer one, just to get all the apparent confusion out of the way...
 

Doer

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Pushing drops of mercury around is more fun and less slippery than talking with a person who flip-flops for fun.
 

heresSMOKEY

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When ignorant pastors start saying shit like lets kill the fags and faggots will burn in hell, they arent doing much for their cause. Christians are supposed to be loving, kind, and caring. Even IF someone is commiting a sin, they are still human beings and deserve their respect. Killing someone is never the answer.. even a murderer will get what he has coming, but thats not up to us to judge one another.
especially now science has proved the universe was not created by a fake god, good old cern
 

MellowFarmer

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"not having religious faith like most did".. There's alot more religious people than atheists. Most people still live with their faith.
You then are a very fortunate minority who wasn't brainwashed as a kid back when you were putting teeth under your pillow or leaving cookies for Santa in your home with no chimney(guessing) It is a tough feat to break the mental gymnastics and go against your family, friends and community who all find lack of Faith terribly deviant and bad. My mother still prays for my soul and they give 10% of their hard earned cash over to the lying crooks! The thugs actually mail out donation envelopes with their names on them so they know who is skimping!
 

Kaendar

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I'd like a comprehensive explanation of Keandar's beliefs, if he'd be so inclined to offer one, just to get all the apparent confusion out of the way...
Umm yea I wouldnt mind doin somethin like that. I wudnt know which sub forum to put it in tho
 

Kaendar

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Nice, you have some very intelligent views and I have faith you will grow into not having religious faith like most did.
Im a believer in both science and religion equally. Im not a blind follower tho, I dont read all of the bible literally.
 

Hepheastus420

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You then are a very fortunate minority who wasn't brainwashed as a kid back when you were putting teeth under your pillow or leaving cookies for Santa in your home with no chimney(guessing) It is a tough feat to break the mental gymnastics and go against your family, friends and community who all find lack of Faith terribly deviant and bad. My mother still prays for my soul and they give 10% of their hard earned cash over to the lying crooks! The thugs actually mail out donation envelopes with their names on them so they know who is skimping!
I used to be religious not to long ago. I wasn't fortunate.

Still, there are alot more religious people than atheists. Which was my original point.
 

kpmarine

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Im a believer in both science and religion equally. Im not a blind follower tho, I dont read all of the bible literally.
How do you take the bible less than literally? What is your means of deciding what was meant literally, and what was not? Could you give me an example of how you consider science and the bible conflict, and how you deal with that situation? For example: if the talking snake of Genesis is not meant literally, what was it's intended purpose? How do you decide that particular section is meant in a less-than-literal manner?

Overall, I guess my issue with this is the fact that once you make the bible non-literal, it means you can interpret it however you want. That relegates it to the level of common literature in my mind. It cannot call itself the "inspired word of god", and maintain you get to interpret it how you wish. An omniscient god would know fully the inherent dangers of leaving his will open to interpretation. Giving yourself that loophole seems like an attempt at giving yourself an escape in all negative situations; it really does nothing to reinforce faith in an all-knowing, all-powerful god.

I know that seems like alot of questions, but I couldn't think of a better way to ask it.
 

kpmarine

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Science says they didn't?
Science sure doesn't indicate they did at all. You honestly expect me to believe that people commonly lived for centuries in the past, when our most advanced medicine hasn't pushed that average past a century now? It's just unreasonable to believe Methuselah lived for so long (900 years I believe it was?), while we are still pushing to reach 1/9 of that life expectancy.
 

Kaendar

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Science sure doesn't indicate they did at all. You honestly expect me to believe that people commonly lived for centuries in the past, when our most advanced medicine hasn't pushed that average past a century now? It's just unreasonable to believe Methuselah lived for so long (900 years I believe it was?), while we are still pushing to reach 1/9 of that life expectancy.
I believe it. A life full of UV protection, very low amount of pathogens, no diseases, viruses, un healthy foods..
 

Padawanbater2

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I believe it. A life full of UV protection, very low amount of pathogens, no diseases, viruses, un healthy foods..
What won't you believe?

These types of beliefs, though you may not understand or realize it now, harm people. But I hope they make you feel good, because that's what's really important, isn't it?
 

Harrekin

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Anyone that believes in a "sky daddy" needs their head examined and shouldn't be allowed make public statements whilst being "incapacitated".

Seriously? A dude on a cloud in a dress with a big white beard is watching out for you?

Yet they say gay people act irrationally? And then some of them go to mass to listen to child molestors talking about being a good person?

Bitch please.
 
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