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Christianity, Homosexuality, and the New Covenant

Discussion in 'Spirituality & Sexuality & Philosophy' started by Green Bud Smurfy, Apr 26, 2017.


    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    Have a look here for a different point of view, I'm trying to help people not convert them. Christianity has a rich ancient meditative tradition. Long before the KJV and even the catholic church. God judges you like other men, By your thoughts, words and actions, and that's about it. You are made in his image after all, and God is just, and this is what you judge by, the facts. You get to heaven by attaining a state of grace, not a state of delusion, you can't get through the pearly gates with a heart full of hate, no baggage allowed, or it wouldn't be heaven, just another form of life here. If that were the case, heaven would be a lot like North Korea, where all you do is praise the great leader, at least in north Korea you can die.


    You will die, accept this, it is self centered, to say the least, to have the creator of the universe (a third anyway) as your imaginary friend. Most so called "christian evangelicals" would be against letting someone like Jesus into the country. He did believe in free health care after all and was against the sword (guns). "What kind of gun would Jesus own", is not a serious theological question. Fundamentalism is intellectual cowardice, as well as, real cowardice. Unfortunately it is often coupled with child abuse and the cult like behavior of home and parochial schooling. Much delusion, hypocrisy and outright lies, are a big part of the fundamentalist/evangelical movement. Read more than one book, read a science one, there are many.

    Watch this video for some education, this guy forgot more than your preacher ever knew about the Bible. A good, honest, intelligent, educated and honorable man, will you slander him and call him an agent of evil? Lets see some morals, ethics, courage and faith. Watch this video to the end and think for a bit.

    I am not an agent of satan, but a mindfulness teacher who sometimes gives spiritual council to christian ministers, even though I'm an atheist, I have nothing against honest christians, fundamentalist are not honest with themselves. Watch the video before responding, if you have the moral courage to learn something new. This is an act of compassion, ignorance often leads to suffering.

    Try this one for a broader perspective on life

    From your post you seem to be confused about the true nature of reality, this might help a bit. god loves gays too, or he would not have made them. "Even God does not presume to judge a man before his days are done", it is a bit arrogant for someone to usurp God's judgment. How do you know how the bible was created? If these people are going to Hell anyway, why add to their suffering? If man can forgive than why not God? Are we better than him at morels and ethics, because we are social beings and he is a loner, if so how can we be made in the image of a loner? How would compassion be possible and what purpose would it serve a lone supernatural being?

    I am always suspicious of men who are abnormally interested in the sex lives of other men, unless your gay of course, then it's quite natural...

    Not gay myself, but don't see any issue at all, I mean Joe and Fred who live together down the street, seem like nice people, but the Bible tells me I should stone them to death, WHAT TO DO!:-?

    Don't spread hate, this topic is unworthy and sinful, learn to love more and fear less.

    PS A passage or two from the one in Leviticus that condemns gays, also condemns those with tattoos, equally bad and sinful in the eye's of the Lord. Lot's of folks are going to Hell on this one, for sure.
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    New Age United

    New Age United Well-Known Member

    Does god love pedophiles as well? you can not maintain rational thought if you say no.
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    You give your imaginary friend Jesus all the credit, but none of the responsibility, sounds like you work for Trump. You should apply, I hear they are short staffed in the WH press office. Try a science book, there are a lot of choices, just like Bibles lot's of different versions, who knows? Biblical contextual scholars have a better idea, check out the video above to learn something new. You appear to be motivated by hatred and fear much of the time, this is not graceful behavior, ya can't get in that way, they will kick your ass to hell. Check yourself for tattoos, if ya got some, yer gonna roast forever and ever, see Leviticus, ya might as well be gay, yer gone. God is just?
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    I don't believe in God, attend to your experience, read carefully.

    I am employing humor and logical argument.

    Is that your actual photo?
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    New Age United

    New Age United Well-Known Member

    Yes that is me do you like;) I'm transgender lol!!!!!!
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    Good for you!, yer just as valuable a human as anybody else. Others don't understand and react with fear, not compassion, which should be normal. Compassion is not sympathy though, but more of a technical term in the "trade", means, maximun social, cooperative mode. We use it to protect our children and communities, motives and intentions are everything.
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    New Age United

    New Age United Well-Known Member

    I was joking bro, no that's not me and yes I actually am male. But good response.
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't be much of a mindfulness teacher, if I was that big an asshole to hate others for no true reason, but I'm only human and just like everybody else in that regard, line is a bit further than most. I even feel sorry for the Donald, but he's fucking himself in front of the whole world, so maybe there is a God, we'll see on this one if true justice is delivered. By and to the Donald, nobody else to blame, but he will try anyway, because he can't learn and grow.

    How can we hate retarded people? He is emotionally and socially retarded, but very dangerous too. He literally has brain damage, I and other meditation practitioners work over these brain regions regularly and know what they do, from the inside perspective and now the scientific one as well. Brain Damage, I feel like I'm hating a mental vegetative, so it cuts the malice down a bit, self defense reaction to protect the community.
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    Vulcan logic and religious culture, Yoda and the Jedi etc all have their roots in Buddhist culture, hollywood types are big on this stuff too. You see it in the culture as wisdom.

    Jedi knights are warrior monks.
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    New Age United

    New Age United Well-Known Member

    I don't think Donald is mentally incompetent, rather I think he is much like bush and is playing stupid to deceive the people.
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    He's real good at it, might not have won an emmy, but an oscar for sure! No, both were a bit stupid, Donald is evil, Bush merely misguided. Both can do harm, but Donald's kind is deadly, look at the past 9 months, Bush took 8 years to fuck things up.... Project ahead, it's scary! He will go down before the end of the year, just hope he doesn't take a few 10s of millions with him, as a distraction from his humiliation, nuclear war, is great for ratings!
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    DIY-HP-LED Well-Known Member

    His base is evaporating and last week many were burning their hats. What do you think a deal on gun control will do to the rest of what's left? Being a traitor and russian puppet of Putin, wasn't enough! A non christian wasen't enough, a seriel sexul aussaltor of women either and a Goddamn liar, phony and fool too.

    All this will be publicly laid bare at his trials, he will not do well in the isolation of a supermax prison (too many Gov secrets). He is going to one, until they take him out feet first. The Dems have no love and the Repubs hate his guts and don't want him around, the judiciary ain't too fond of him either. A silent 6'x8' cell, forgotten by the world, would be Hell for him, he will start raving and freaking real quick.

    legalcanada Well-Known Member

    the state of christianity is pathetic and that is why people shy away from the bible these days. majority of churches have 'compromised' on the bible and their beliefs trying to accommodate everyone, betraying god in the process. the bible clearly states sexual deviancy is a sin, any church who would conduct a homosexual marriage will have gods wrath upon them.

    same with the dispensationalist movement (aka christian zionists) the bible very clearly states we should not bless those which are antichrist, or gods wrath will be upon us as well, and he is antichrist which have not the father and the son. they deny christ jesus as the messiah, therefore they have not the father. their god must be the devil. even jesus himself called them of the devil and not true israelites. israel belongs to the christians.

    donald trump is not christian, he is jewish but will not admit it. his grandfather changed their name to try obfuscating the fact. he was not elected, but selected and installed by those actually in power. he is also friends with hillary and bill and on the same team. (the team of the devil)
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    Jesus was a Hindu Swami. I don’t care what anyone says.

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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    How do you know the bible is inspired, or even accurate historically? Inquiring minds want to know... :roll:
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    abalonehx Well-Known Member

    Jesus is a fictional character. Don't give a fuck what he said....

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

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    legalcanada Well-Known Member

    there are over 25 thousand handwritten manuscripts of the new testament dating from the 100s AD to the 1500s AD written in many languages. jesus was a real person lmao that is not debatable. whether he was actually the son of god could be debated, but not whether he existed or not.
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    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    What do 25 thousand "handwritten" (you sure they weren't photocopies? lol) manuscripts prove about whether Jesus existed or not? Most of these manuscripts are not in the canon, they're too batshit crazy even for Christians. There were around 40 "gospels" floating around, these were reduced to four because Irenaeus, the real founder of the Canon, was explicit in the matter: there are four quarters of the earth, four universal winds, and animals have four legs. If Jesus was real how come history doesn't mention him when all the other so called "messiahs" are?
    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    We’re all Children of God, born of God, from God, to be God. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.


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