Chemist77 315 watt CDL grow

ttystikk

ttystikk

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TheChemist77 said:
let us know how it goes please,,, im interested to see how others do with these lamps...if you order from boulderlamp.com and say the chemist recomended you, youl get a small discount..
500.00 per lamp, i thought was a bit pricey.. but now i say money well spent, 1st run covered cost of all 4 lamps, electric bills,nutes,water,etc,,,then a little money in my pocket...as a care giver i very rearly make a profit, but since the switch to cmh ive cut my electric bill in half...i must admit i sold a little bit under the table to cover my lamp costs...things are looking up,,,my patients say the cmh grown meds are better than ever...maybe growing legally doesnt have to mean breaking even any more?
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Prices will come down to take care of that problem. Just be patient... :wall:
 
GroErr

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ttystikk said:
Prices will come down to take care of that problem. Just be patient... :wall:
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It would seem it's starting. Here's a new kit from Hydrofarm I hadn't seen before. Noticed it in a promo email from Growershouse. With a 10% discount on all lights they have going right now, this kit with the Elite Agro in either 3100k or 4200k, hood, ballast, ready to fire for ~$300. Haven't looked too deep but it looks like the unit supports 120v or 240v out of the box. External ballast, not quite as clean/neat as the Sun Systems and the reflector doesn't look quite as good as the SS but hey for $300?

Promo: http://growershouse.com/phantom-cmh-reflector-ballast-and-bulb-kit
Hydrofarm: https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/PHR3150
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
It would seem it's starting. Here's a new kit from Hydrofarm I hadn't seen before. Noticed it in a promo email from Growershouse. With a 10% discount on all lights they have going right now, this kit with the Elite Agro in either 3100k or 4200k, hood, ballast, ready to fire for ~$300. Haven't looked too deep but it looks like the unit supports 120v or 240v out of the box. External ballast, not quite as clean/neat as the Sun Systems and the reflector doesn't look quite as good as the SS but hey for $300?

Promo: http://growershouse.com/phantom-cmh-reflector-ballast-and-bulb-kit
Hydrofarm: https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/PHR3150
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In an endless effort to stay ahead of the advancing technology in this industry, I confess to having stopped my research on various bulb and lamp based systems in favor of COB LED. THOSE prices are coming down, too.
 
GroErr

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ttystikk said:
In an endless effort to stay ahead of the advancing technology in this industry, I confess to having stopped my research on various bulb and lamp based systems in favor of COB LED. THOSE prices are coming down, too.
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Lol, it's an endless chase with tech, I have some "legacy" Cree 3070's that I haven't even built and they're already "old" ;)
 
ttystikk

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GroErr said:
Lol, it's an endless chase with tech, I have some "legacy" Cree 3070's that I haven't even built and they're already "old" ;)
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Insane, right? I have A DOZEN 315W CMH kits I never even opened! Bare lamp w/ mogul socket base and Phillips ballast. Wire them into any hood you want. I'll take $200 a kit plus shipping lol
 
GroErr

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ttystikk said:
Insane, right? I have A DOZEN 315W CMH kits I never even opened! Bare lamp w/ mogul socket base and Phillips ballast. Wire them into any hood you want. I'll take $200 a kit plus shipping lol
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Lol wish I had the room to run some more, last thing I need is more lights or seeds (same thing, too many to grow out!).
 
grapefruitmarmalade

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Immaculate foliage @Chemist77
I just switched to a Philips CDO-TT 830 cmh bulb. I requested the new 942 one but they're not available in my country apparently. The import of the 315 watt CDL will cost a pretty penny and I'm keen on the CDO-TT because it's backwards compatible to any old HPS/MH ballast.
Happy growing and good karma to you!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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grapefruitmarmalade said:
Immaculate foliage @Chemist77
I just switched to a Philips CDO-TT 830 cmh bulb. I requested the new 942 one but they're not available in my country apparently. The import of the 315 watt CDL will cost a pretty penny and I'm keen on the CDO-TT because it's backwards compatible to any old HPS/MH ballast.
Happy growing and good karma to you!
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Nononono! The bulb isn't where the improvements are, they're in the BALLAST. The Philips 315W digital low frequency square wave ballast is the whole reason the bulb is more efficient.
 
grapefruitmarmalade

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ttystikk said:
Nononono! The bulb isn't where the improvements are, they're in the BALLAST. The Philips 315W digital low frequency square wave ballast is the whole reason the bulb is more efficient.
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Beginner grower here, and I'm well aware of that.
Also I'm well aware that the product grown is of great value compared to the initial investment.
However for my little grow op I find it much cheaper to aim for commercial bulbs with regular ballasts (magnetic ballast and yes the CMH will strike even with longer cables). I meant to say that I'm glad for a cheap improvement for the low CRI of the soidum lamps. And I am seeing improvements and I'm excited about the CDL bulbs
I'm looking to get a Lights Interaction D-Papillon 315 within the next three months, but anyway I'm rambling again...
Good stuff, man, keep it going and keep posting pics!
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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grapefruitmarmalade said:
Beginner grower here, and I'm well aware of that.
Also I'm well aware that the product grown is of great value compared to the initial investment.
However for my little grow op I find it much cheaper to aim for commercial bulbs with regular ballasts (magnetic ballast and yes the CMH will strike even with longer cables). I meant to say that I'm glad for a cheap improvement for the low CRI of the soidum lamps. And I am seeing improvements and I'm excited about the CDL bulbs
I'm looking to get a Lights Interaction D-Papillon 315 within the next three months, but anyway I'm rambling again...
Good stuff, man, keep it going and keep posting pics!
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Then buy the kits. The lamp and correct ballast can be had for well under $300. Use your own light fixture and save!
 
grapefruitmarmalade

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ttystikk said:
Then buy the kits. The lamp and correct ballast can be had for well under $300. Use your own light fixture and save!
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close to the $700 mark over here with the taxes and what not, dude.
Mark ups are insane..
But anyway as much as I love talking lights I'm in no position to discuss it with the pros; seeing as how I've got so much of the other stuff to dial in and what not
I do appreciate an efficient grow light though
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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grapefruitmarmalade said:
close to the $700 mark over here with the taxes and what not, dude.
Mark ups are insane..
But anyway as much as I love talking lights I'm in no position to discuss it with the pros; seeing as how I've got so much of the other stuff to dial in and what not
I do appreciate an efficient grow light though
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You make the decision that's right for you; I'm just trying to make sure you have complete and accurate information with which to do so.
 
TheChemist77

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if i hadnt read that high times magazine id still be running my hps...wen i saw the par value of the 315 cdl compared to the gavita pro de,, i had to take a chance with these lamps.. glad i did.. ill post pix each week of flower, then total dry weights and gpw.. this run is far better than the last, could be the table cover, more veg time, or both idk.. the canopy has filled in well and plants are double the height of my first run..
now i just need to find a good cob led to do some testing.....
 
dangledo

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TheChemist77 said:
let us know how it goes please,,, im interested to see how others do with these lamps...if you order from boulderlamp.com and say the chemist recomended you, youl get a small discount..
500.00 per lamp, i thought was a bit pricey.. but now i say money well spent, 1st run covered cost of all 4 lamps, electric bills,nutes,water,etc,,,then a little money in my pocket...as a care giver i very rearly make a profit, but since the switch to cmh ive cut my electric bill in half...i must admit i sold a little bit under the table to cover my lamp costs...things are looking up,,,my patients say the cmh grown meds are better than ever...maybe growing legally doesnt have to mean breaking even any more?
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will do man. When all DOES go well, I'm pretty sure ill be phasing out the ole hps. ill have to check out those boulder lamps. ended up getting the SS lec to my door(in a week+) @ 400$, with a discount coupon. not too bad. its driving me nuts knowing these veggers could be using up that lec that was shown to be in stock, ready to ship. these damn t5's just don't get them ready enough to flip to hps, so I end up loosing a week or two to acclimate them enough before flower with mh.

I'm a hobby grower, so I'm not so much dialed in as far as a set schedule in a perpetual. the main reason I was looking at led/lec in the first place. my state is mmj legal for the past 2 years, but nothing is rolling yet, and grows are set up by the state, so mom and pop grows aren't legit, yet. :leaf:
 
TheChemist77

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sorry , i missed week 4 pix.. today is 29 days into flower. i cleaned and changed the rez with general hydroponics bloom at 1 tsp per gallon ppm=1087, ph=5.9.. ill take pix tomorrow when lights go on and post..
also taking clones tomorrow, that gives them 10-14 days to root then 2 weeks to veg.. so the same day i pull this run clones will be all set to flower, no down time.. ill pull plants, clean room and rez,put 30 plants in, take down the 3 cmh lamps and put up the 1k hps..i think this will be my last run under hps.. or at least hps alone..i still may do a run using 2 cmh lamps and 1 400 watt hps in between.

i ordered a 4,200k cmh bulb to use in my veg room but havnt decided when to switch from mh to cmh for the veg room yet..good will and grow well..
 
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