CHARLES DARWIN AND THE GROW ROOM: Mono-culter disaster

calibuzz

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CHARLES DARWIN AND THE GROW ROOM:
Mono-culture disaster

By calibuzz - 30 year grower

What does Charles Darwin's Origin of Species, Monsanto, and your grow room have in common?

Answer: Extinction.

Yes, its time to put on our thinking caps and get as advanced as we can - in our goal to grow healthy Medical Cannabis.

Charles Darwin was one of the first persons to note that species change through natural selection. In short terms: every living organism is a little different - by virtue of genes. Some genes promote good health in differing conditions. An example might be: Some cacti live in bright light, other succulent cacti do well in shade, and amongst those two types of cactus, even amongst the same species, some can take drier conditions, some can take wetter conditions. It depends on the individual’s genes. Some die; some thrive - based upon environmental factors.

Charles Darwin noted that every species must adapt or go extinct - the Natural Law.

Not all follow that natural law, including giant agro-corporations, and even indoor cannabis growers.

A few years back, Monsanto, in the goal to corner the market on things like soybeans, started messing with genes. The corporation produced soybean that were all genetically identical, reacting only to their pesticides and fertilizers. BAD IDEA!

The results of identical genes or MONO-CULTURED plants, is that if one gets sick...they all get sick. There is little or no natural diversity to assure that some will survive a change in conditions. Thus, monoculture plants are susceptible to extinction on a grand scale.

"So?" you say.

CLONES: Some indoor growers are fixated on only one strain. They grow a lot of plants with the same genes. This means if one plant in the room gets a mold, fungus, bug, is over watered, too hot or too cold, etc., the others are likely soon to follow. Whole grow rooms can suddenly fail. MONO CULTURING cannabis is a really bad idea.

In my grow op, I work in line with the principals suggested by Charles Darwin and other cutting edge genetic science, by making sure that I have at least ten different strains in my room at any time.

Given this strategy, when infestations or disease strike out-of–the-blue, some plants species will weaken while others are unaffected or less affected. Additionally, as each room is different, the differences in genes ( like percentage Indica genes to Sativa genes in mixed strains) typically leads to one or two plants really thriving in your own grow-room conditions. Yet beware, as if you only clone those that do well, you are back in the same monocultral situation.

For the serious grower, diversity is key. I would advocate that all growers breed their stocks regularly to enhance diversity and to produce superior and resistant strains. For the home grower that only wants a few plants to meet their medicinal needs - one might purchase three different strains one starts from clones. For example: Get an indica dominant Blue Dream, a Sativa dominate OG, and a mixed strain Sour Diesel. Or do-it the old-fashioned way, get a bunch of seeds from different friends and start'em out doors. Mix it up; have fun!

Growing different strains assure one that the probability of total devastation is greatly reduced. Plus, its just fun to see how different strains and genes work in your plants; a true education. Traditional growers have known this fo ever, since the dawn of cannabis cultivation. Breed a lot; Keep the strong; maintain diversity for that coming blight on the horizon.

Unfortunately in today’s world - where many are in cities and detached from nature - we are not connected enough to see the errors of our ways. One probable reason why you are prudently seeking knowledge by reading this article. Its easy just to go to the clone shop and get a bunch of what you like. However, get'en one flavor has the potential for disaster...for when a single MONO-CULTURED plant in a grow room goes south; the others are inevitably: soon to follow. Your once lush tropical island goes barren and bleak.

Good Luck, and if you have the time, enjoy reading Darwin’s book - while you grow your “cannabis origins.”

Peace Be With You Always,

calibuzz
 

grannybonger

Active Member
Your just the guy I want to talk to. Just yesterday I had a thread closed because I asked this question. I found 5 seeds in a bag of pot that I know was grown hydrophonically. I sprouted and am growing them now. The diffrences between the five are like pigeons. One is a scraggily thing and since a baby she needed to be watered twice a day. This seed has hydro genetics, In order for that plant to grow to it's fullest I would need to know what it's mom and dad ate. The more you know about the seeds background the more success your going to have growing them.
 

calibuzz

Member
Your just the guy I want to talk to. Just yesterday I had a thread closed because I asked this question. I found 5 seeds in a bag of pot that I know was grown hydrophonically. I sprouted and am growing them now. The diffrences between the five are like pigeons. One is a scraggily thing and since a baby she needed to be watered twice a day. This seed has hydro genetics, In order for that plant to grow to it's fullest I would need to know what it's mom and dad ate. The more you know about the seeds background the more success your going to have growing them.
Hey granny!! ;)

Indeed! I recently purchase some old DNA technology feminized seeds (130 bucks foreach six pack). The progeny are all radically different. Some thrive, others struggle. It is a lot of hard work and training to get them to grow in a grow-op situation. I lost 30% stright away, and another 10% after one month. Those that remain are vital and strong, they have adapted to the grow-op conditions. These I shall clone. Cool, as I now have raised from seed the original Purple Kush and original Super Kush that one can not find any more, and I shall put these strian back into circulation with my buddies clone shop. Enhancing the genepool.

Post here. I'll check in.

Peace be with you,

calibuzz
 

grannybonger

Active Member
Hi Cali, Quote: Indeed! I recently purchase some old DNA technology feminized seeds (130 bucks foreach six pack).

That's pretty much what a guy has to do to grow some stable strains/seeds. Pretty hefty on the price though. I ordered 12 got 22 and 4 are growing, one looks female. 75.00 bucks, and 14 sunk but 'did not sprout' fuckin seed banks, total fraud.

So hopefully I can at least make some seeds, and start the process. Don't know dick about the seeds yet except their supposed to be mainly Sativa.
 

calibuzz

Member
:leaf:
Hi Cali, Quote: Indeed! I recently purchase some old DNA technology feminized seeds (130 bucks foreach six pack).

That's pretty much what a guy has to do to grow some stable strains/seeds. Pretty hefty on the price though. I ordered 12 got 22 and 4 are growing, one looks female. 75.00 bucks, and 14 sunk but 'did not sprout' fuckin seed banks, total fraud.

So hopefully I can at least make some seeds, and start the process. Don't know dick about the seeds yet except their supposed to be mainly Sativa.
Dude<:leaf:

When I was a kid (oh so long ago back in the 70's), me and my buds would save our seeds and in Febuary throw them all in a giant sprout grower. Like hundreds of seeds. Then when they sprouted, we'd stick em in flower trays with all the good dirt we could wrangle about.:leaf:

By march there would be less and by summer there would be less.:leaf:

Then when it was time to plant in like may-june there would be 60 mighty plants that had made the grade. These went into the chapparel and got the drip irrrigation on a timer. We would never return untill late august. Then the mighty trees were near ready to be felled.

Fun stuff back then when no one knew dick, or cared one way or the other.:leaf:

~Cali
 

grannybonger

Active Member
I just read about the Monsanto monopoly, truly 'Shocking' here's a bit...

Monsanto&#8217;s genetically modified seeds have transformed the company and are radically altering global agriculture. So far, the company has produced G.M. seeds for soybeans, corn, canola, and cotton. Many more products have been developed or are in the pipeline, including seeds for sugar beets and alfalfa. The company is also seeking to extend its reach into milk production by marketing an artificial growth hormone for cows that increases their output, and it is taking aggressive steps to put those who don&#8217;t want to use growth hormone at a commercial disadvantage. link http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

Has anyone ever called you a Lemarckian?

And also, if you find seeds in a bag of hydro pot, not a good idea to try and grow them in 'dirt', your wasting your time. Some people think a seed is a seed, wrong.
 

calibuzz

Member
I just read about the Monsanto monopoly, truly 'Shocking' here's a bit...

Monsanto&#8217;s genetically modified seeds have transformed the company and are radically altering global agriculture. So far, the company has produced G.M. seeds for soybeans, corn, canola, and cotton. Many more products have been developed or are in the pipeline, including seeds for sugar beets and alfalfa. The company is also seeking to extend its reach into milk production by marketing an artificial growth hormone for cows that increases their output, and it is taking aggressive steps to put those who don&#8217;t want to use growth hormone at a commercial disadvantage. link http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

Has anyone ever called you a Lemarckian?

And also, if you find seeds in a bag of hydro pot, not a good idea to try and grow them in 'dirt', your wasting your time. Some people think a seed is a seed, wrong.
Nice research.

No. Not to my knowledge, but perhaps behind my back. :)
Given my premise promoting natural selection, I would suppose only ignormaouses might call me a Lemarkian (not you of course). That would be like calling a magicain a wizard. One actually performs tricks quicker than the eye and slight of hand, the other is a charlatian with a metaphysical explanation and reputaion based upon pulling the wool over the average person's eyes.

We scientifically learned scholars preport that Pot Plants do not change their progeny based upon environmental factors, adjusting phenotypic expressions prior to reproduction (with the exception of epigenomic modifications in the third generations), the new - by enlarge - express characteristics based upon gamete exchange duning the process of miosis and crossover during chomosome building and reproduction, prior to gamete maturation..if that answers your question? ;)

Want a gas! check out the documentary called: "King Corn." Its very interesting.

Thanks, enjoy

calibuzz
 

calibuzz

Member
Hi Cali, Quote: Indeed! I recently purchase some old DNA technology feminized seeds (130 bucks foreach six pack).

That's pretty much what a guy has to do to grow some stable strains/seeds. Pretty hefty on the price though. I ordered 12 got 22 and 4 are growing, one looks female. 75.00 bucks, and 14 sunk but 'did not sprout' fuckin seed banks, total fraud.

So hopefully I can at least make some seeds, and start the process. Don't know dick about the seeds yet except their supposed to be mainly Sativa.
It is difficult to tell indica from sativa seeds, with the general rule that indica tends to be plumper and have spots on occasion, though I've seen sative seeds the same. You should know by week 2 on sex by comparitive growth, males tend to shoot up quick and have no white anthers sticking out. If the leaves turn from three to five and seven in weeks five through seven you got a sativa dominant strian.

Sativa grows like a stringy "weed." Indica takes its own good time.

Growing seeds is like waiting for christmas - when one is a kid; It's a giggly wait to see what's in the package, and you hope its a baseball mit, not a package of walmart socks.

I like to keep a good male around and let it's dingo balls flower seperately - if I like the strain. I'll chop it down just when its ready to spooge. Then store the balls in a sealed jar. Then I do a little pixie dusting with a few good females in late flowering - to get a few good seeds, making sure to wrap a white ribbon around the branch I've pollenated. Pretty easy, always get a dozen or so.

Peace,

calibuzz
 

grannybonger

Active Member
I like this our own private thread, are people afraid of Lamarckians?

I was just called one. :) Has a certain ring to it. You can associate me with Darwin any day.
 

'ome Grown

Well-Known Member
Crop rotation, companion planting, sound quarantine practices and layering of different plants (i.e. not growing all cannabis plants in the same area, but having different plants in between etc, i.e. a strong biodiversity) can all help in the delay of the consequences of mono-cultures.
 

grannybonger

Active Member
I got another doozy, one of my seeds has what it seems is hydro/root positive DNA. Her sisters are quite different as well but this 1" plant has alredy got major roots growing out of the peat pot. The seeds mother was grown in hydro so the major roots would be inherited. Crazy, I just started growing last Nov10 and got a ways to go, but like you say variety is the key until a guy can reach 'his' enviorments, true potential. :)
 
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