I was just trying to make a point and you told me I didn't make sense lol. I don't even want to argue about nonsense. it's all good! I'm sure you know more about the output than I do. I'm hitting some pineapple express as we bitch about lights
Read your own post once more, you directly quoted my post like your supposed to be right with something irrelevant? Like what i said dont make sense? Am i not allowed to return the favor with truth for your future advantage?I was just trying to make a point and you told me I didn't make sense lol. I don't even want to argue about nonsense. it's all good! I'm sure you know more about the output than I do. I'm hitting some pineapple express as we bitch about lights
Okay, you said it costs more to run cfls than hid. I said that is like saying 400 lbs feathers is equiv. to 400lbs of brick(sorry it's irrelevant); meaning that it costs the same amount of actual watts used either way you look at it.
I figured that cfls pulling 400 actual watts to an hid pulling 400 actual watts is the same cost to run per hour. But, I guess in some crazy, mathematical way, I am wrong?
I see the confusion, you didn't factor in the return and flowering time. When growing, you look at monthly expenses compared to your return. Which is cheaper to do with an HID over cfl's assuming equal draw from the wall.
You can DIY a grow light from spirals ... I built one like this one and it works well.
Cob/led/315 lec would be considered a few of the more efficient types of grow lights.
Yeah, I can't argue with you there! I wasn't taking all of that into consideration; just the actual wattage per hour. So yes it would be cheaper to run hid and finish sooner. And to answer your question, I do tend to stir the pot quite often, but I wasn't trying to be a dick this time. Happy growing
Gotcha, I thought he was talking like ballast like the HID has. I don't know...you know this make me want to bust out my CFL for a grow or so and see how it does.
Watt for watt, it will mature the buds on the whole plant from top to bottom (mostly middle/bottom) faster then cfl's can but plently of other things could prolong flowering times too.
All gas discharge bulbs require a ballast, small bulb = small ballast. Some cfl's are rated at the input draw, some are rated at the ballast output depending on brand ect. (kind of how a 1000w HPS is rated 1kw from the ballast output side but pulls closer to 1070+w at the wall) so it gets tricky to get an actual number but its not like it matters much with cfls anyway.
I have a single big 125W CFL bulb and I can keep it right next to the plant no heat issues. It's great for my seedlings and keeps the tent pretty cool too. I want to do a scrog with it because I'm convinced I could get the gram per watt with it if I grew a single plant in a five gallon smart pot and LST'd and scrogged the hell out of it. Pretty bright light for a single bulb and has an all white reflector, pretty nice imo.
Try it out bro! If you can pull consistent 4 1/2 zips dry with a bulb like that then thats pretty damn good, actually thats really fucking good, but i would imagine synthetic nutes with cash cropper cuts would be needed to come close.
Most def. I've seen a PC grow with 42W CFL get an O dry so I see know reason why I couldn't get close at least triple that with mine. Sadly I haven't the space right now, compared to just using the HPS I have it's no contest at the moment as I've no plans to scrog my current plant.
please do
https://www.amazon.com/T5-Grow-Light-Fluorescent-Hydroponic/dp/B00INGMTPWB00INGMTPW
have you considered the difference in cooling cost? I run T5s in a closed closet with no vent or cooling system. if I was running HIDs I would need a vent,blower and A/C or an evaporative cooler to keep temps below 90 degrees.I also believe that fluorescents produce better tasting buds and I am not alone in that openion
Yes i have, i cant use a t5 in my space without the same 400cfm+ of cooling or its still too hot but manageable if i bump up the room exhaust and shut down the hood exhaust, im sure if i had the fixture in a vented hood it would be much cooler.