Cfl, low bugdet, stealth, soil, gro

hey im doc. greenthumb and this is my idea of what im doing what materials i will be buying and i have and the space i will add pics and REP+ is awarded for ANY help

MATERIALS I HAVE:

• hourly timer with one outlite
• ph pool tester
• i HAD 3 26w 1750lumen cfls and one broke so i have 2 26w 1750lumen 2700k i believe doesnt say on the box
• a ziplock bag of marical gro that i got off my friend and i will be getting more later if needed
• white printing paper(i used foil until i found out i didnt have enough and im too bored and broke to buy another packand i heard the white printing paper is better then the foil becuz it doesnt make hot spots so i have to tear it down still and place ONLY white printing paper
• i have 3 light fixtures and one dual but the dual is too big for the box i belive and i will use it as a backup
• a normal 6 outlite power bar
• a used and washd water sprayer
• chains and o hooks to use for the light bulbs to hold them up becuz i decided that placing the pots of soil and plants or whatever ontop of other tuppaware and dvd and cd cases to raise them 2-3" from the bulbs
• a normal garbage bag stapled and folded to the right size and i will be using tacs to place it in front of the cabnit door to block out light a.k.a light leaks

MATERIALS I NEED OR WILL BUY:

• actavated carbon
• a small fan aproxx. 6" in hight and length

• i dont need to buy but i can obtain some all perpose plant fertilizer nbut it is marical gro like my soil and the npk is 15-10-10 or something

MORE INFORMATION ON MY PLAN AND THE PART I NEED HELP:
i will be using th egarbage bag as a light leak protector, i need to no if the 2 26w 2700k 1750lumen output will be enough to get 5 plants into sex and then eliminate about 2 or 3 and keep 2-3 for buding with male or not becuz i will be kepping the pollen from the males for later and i heard if u keep male pollen and pollenate the hermies with the male pollen then they produce female seeds? or is it when u take the hermie pollen and use it on a female? the seeds are bag seed off my friend so they shouldnt be too bad and i need to know will thos lights be good for just sexing them? im doing a 12/12 from seed for them so they should sex after the first month? the grow space is about 16" tall 9" wide and 15" deep with nothing in it but i am lsting all of them BEFORE they reach sex also the lights and chains make about 13" of grow room for the plants is that good enough for lsting majorly? and only 2 plants? will i need more light i have only a total of 1750+1750=3500 lumens is that enough? becuz i dont want to spend another $10 on 3 more when i can only fit about 3 or 4 MAX and with a fire hazard so is it enough? or would it make it wayyyy better if i add one 13w 800lumen 2700k light bulb? so ill have 4300 lumens? will 3500lumens make it just to get 5-10 plants to sex? or how many would fit in it til sex? im think more of five but the more the merrier so help me out and i will send u rep+ also i heard 5000-10000lumens is good for a normal sized plant which is like 3-5 ft tall but mine will be only 12-14" max will those lights with only 3500 lumens be enough?

Sound great. Sounds like it will be pretty good. Good Luck.

DOC.

It should work. I have a small Stealthy little grow space and you shouldn't have any problems. The only problem I am having is the smell. I made a little carbon Scrubber seemed to work good for a little while. I'll see if I can Post some pictures of my operation.
I'm growing a Hybrid, Its MasterLow...Master Kush X Lowryder. I don't think they even make it anymore I have a large stock of Seeds left over.

yo CLOSETTOCKER. how many lights use. what kind

jestacrazy said:

yo CLOSETTOCKER. how many lights use. what kind

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ya what wattage light are u using and im pretty sure it'll work i just want to know if the lights will work will 3500 lumens be good for 5-10 major lst plants too sex in? and like 2-4 plants to grow to bud in? or only 2-3? or just 2? what would give me the best yeild? and im not too worried about the diamentions just the hight becuz its only like 16" in hight without the plants but thanks REP+ hope i get some going soon this is like my dream

I have a small space 7.5 inches X 11.5 inches X 24 inches. I have 2 100w CFL's in Daylight Color. I would like to change them out to 3500K lights for flowering but I would need 4 and I just don't have the room. I have a Drip System and light timers for watering and 18/6 lighting. They are a Hybrid Master Kush X Lowryder= Masterlow. I don't think they even produce this train anymore but I have about a billion seeds, because I love it. But I tryed several and this is the best high. They don't speek to highly of lowryder or others like it for THC, but this one rocks..it's good for me. I'm going to try a some Northern lights Fem seed that I have on my next Grow.

thats good but would only 2 26w 1750- lumen each work to bud 2-3 plants? wha if i add 2 13w ones so i have 1750 x 2 lumens and 800 x 2 lumens will that work? im doing 12/12 from seed and one of my 26w cfls broke

The sun once it hits the ground is around 10,000 lumens...with 2 26w 1750lumens thats 52w 3500lumens...might be ok for sprouting but i would definatly look into gettin some more lights! check out my thread...ive got one cfl that puts out almost 3 times the power as your whole room.

alright i will but im doing a budgit grow and i am wondering if the 2 13w cfls and the 2 26w cfls would be enough giving me a total of 5100 lumens is that enough for REALLY short bushy lstd plants?

Just keep going. You'll figure it out. Like I said before, keep reading and talking to these guy's and you'll figure it out. Opinions are like Assholes..everybody has one. There is lots of info, always get a second opinion. I once read on a thread somewhere that you should have 100watts of light per square

Just keep going. You'll figure it out. Like I said before, keep reading and talking to these guy's and you'll figure it out. Opinions are like Assholes..everybody has one. There is lots of info, always get a second opinion. I once read on a thread somewhere that you should have 100watts of light per square foot. I have just under 2

I don't know what happend with the replies..but I was saying 100w per 1 square foot.

ok but i thought it goes by lumens not watts? and if it goes by watts i have hmmmm 78watts total and 5100 lumens total and the space is 16" in hight and 15" in depth and 9" in width

1728 Square inches is a square foot. your just over 2100 square inches..you should be fine. I'm worried about what your going to grow in 16 inches. You will have to start 12/12 right from the start. I have problems with mine in 24 inches. You could get a Auto Flowering (AF) type of plant. They have so many crosses of these plants some have very high levels of THC.They have been designed to be small. I have the hybrid type and I do keep them under 24 inches. Your not going to get large quantities from these types of plants though. I just did the math..you have 2060 square inches and I have 2070 Square inches. I know I should have a little more light in mine but should be fine,and i don't have the room. I'm into flowering now about a week, and i was going to throw a picture on here, but its lights out for now. I run 18/6. remember i'm useing a AF strain.

You are gonna need at least 8 26w 27k cfl's to flower 2 plants 24"
Keep trying its frustrating at first especially when your budget is small.
BUT i wuold suggest NOT using the Miracle Grow
go to LOWES or HOMEDEPOT its spring so go to garden section get fish emultion its $5 for a quart and organic +much easier to use
they might also have a water ph'er its alot more percise than a pool kit tester your ideal range is 6.5-7.0

kepp it up

and closettoker i wouldnt worry so much about watts/ft2 you need to know lumens/ft2
add up total lumens divided by LxWxH of your grow space minimum is 2000 ideal is around 3000

you have plenty of space man...lights i would get some more...try a couple 68watters they are like 15 bucks at homedepot...but back to space if you lst them you wouldnt have to start 12/12 and wouldnt have to worry about the space...if your 16'' high and your lights take up maybe 2-3'' at the top that gives you 13-14" to grow if you use lst you could fit your plants as long as you keep em short and bushy

check out this thread man lst at its best https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/173570-my-plant-into-bondage-11.html

ok sorry iddint reply im trying to put in a little bit of work so ill keep it short i have marical gro becuz i got it for free off a friend that owed me $10 and second i have a total of 5100 lumens andu said 200 is ok and 3000 is ideal? then 5100 should work? and my space isnt 24" my space is 16" WITH OUT ANYTHING IN IT i addd lights and i should have approx. 13" and lsting should work fine im not worried about that and i have been reading for a year now so i think i know pretty much for a person that doesnt grow or have ANY experince of growing but its fine cuz im getting the seeds this week and i need hlpe on how to grem them the fastest way and if 3000 is ideal i dont understand why 5100 lumens wouldnt be?

and second this becuz of the hight and space i believe would be pretty much like a pc grow so i think it would work i saw someone on here groing with only 3 26 or 27 w cfls so i thought if i have onlky 2 and 2 13w ones with 800 lumens to replace it i thought it would work much the same

This is under 2 26watt about 3500 lum. I'm not saying you should do this, I'm just showing you this will work. I don't have the room now if I LST'ed and I prob. will next time, but it will work, I don't think i'll get the compact buds that I would like. but. Just an example. Try to get a light down in the center of the plant or Plants.