Cfl Grow

Been growing it for like 2, coming to its 3rd week now from seed. 1 fem Royal Queen.

125W + 23W 6400K CFL.

Planning to add another 125w, and make a light fixture for the 6 25w cfls that i have or even more..depends. Also plan to have this scrog out but need to make the scrog net asap..

2 Fans inside at the moment. Need to make an intake and outake, until i can put another 125W inside.

Only being pinching her and bending around abit . Already has 3 tops growing out i think or even more. I know i see 3 atleast already.

Only been feeding her water that's all.

Is it too small? I know its not stretching and that's a good sign. Height from the light to the plant is fine. It could be small because less light that's why. Although i was thinking if i added my other 125w, it would've been a bit bigger or twice the growth rate atleast.

thats super bushy, good job. looks like you could throw a stronger fan in there maybe, get some good air flow.

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ;7608503 said:

thats super bushy, good job. looks like you could throw a stronger fan in there maybe, get some good air flow.

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Thanks for the comment, and about the fan. Yes need to buy two extra fans to make an intake n outake. But first tomorrow, ill pop the holes for the air to come in n out. Was going to modify these fans to blow in and out of the cabinet. Having 1 of these fans on is enough to keep it cool inside. It gets hot inside, but i think the plants love it..warrmmmm. Forget to mention that i'd already have a 2nd fan in there for good air flow.
Soil mix, straight up top soil. Place some of the clay balls above to block the light from hitting the soil.

very busshyy indeed, going to pinch it all the way and u'll see how bushy it will get

When I am going to install the 23-25w cfls inside, planning to have some below the scrog net to light the bottom and some above with the 2x130w cfl.. I think that's a good idea, do you?

yea sounds like a good idea as long as you can keep it cool in there. Best temperatures are between 70-80 degrees f. that's when the lights are on though, when they're off it can get down to 60 and be perfectly fine. you just dont want temperatures to get past 85, 90 degrees. thats when you will start to have problems

when having new branches grown, usually the fan leaves dies, and new one are grown where the new branches have grown?

Just new updates of the plant. Pretty small at the moment. I'm still wanting to wait for the veg state to go on for longer. Also, soon feel like adding some 25w(s) CFL on the side.
It's cool inside and warm, just dropped the 2 big cfls lower. Should've done this at the beginning. Exhaust is sweet. The lights are usually 24hrs on anyways, and when i decide to turn them off. They are either off for 6-10 hours.

Anyone know how much i should be watering this for? I'd give the plant 250-350ml of water, every 2-3 days. Is that good? Because, the plant is in soil.
Haven't gave it any nutes, only just water.

Probably going to scrog around the screen to a 50% ratio. Adding more light like 4-8 25w cfl, will it speed up the growing process?


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Your lower leaves are yellowing. To me, it looks like a nitrogen deficiency. Try and get better airflow to your plant and have a fan blowing directly onto it. Keep up the good work!

richerdrocks said:

Your lower leaves are yellowing. To me, it looks like a nitrogen deficiency. Try and get better airflow to your plant and have a fan blowing directly onto it. Keep up the good work!

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Thanks for the reply m8, also, i don't think its nitrogen deficiency, as when these fans leave die out new ones usually grow out from the new branches. If you open the first picture above, you can see underneath the plant where the soil is, there are dead fan leaves there. This is my conclusion that, the fans leave u say that are yellowing is just the process of it growing. Maybe there is deficiency, as there is no intake in the cab. Just open holes that air can go in, also i have an out-take that keep taking out hot air.

Anyone know about the Yates Thrive All Soluble plant food? I'm just wondering if inside the packet of the fertiliser is color orange/yellow. Found the yates box, but it was open with some bag with stuff inside that is yellow/orange. The bag inside hasn't been open, just concern that what if it isn't fert, and was just some random bag with orange/yellow powder inside.

If it is fert, then right away im going to feed the plant with it. I've grown before, and it was much bushier than this plant. However, the other grow was in DWC, and was fertiliser/fed with seaweed ferti. Which could of been bushier.

It'll be great, if anyone could answer about the Yates Thrive fertiliser of how it looks like. Because I just fed it with it, 250-600ml / half a teaspoon of yates ferti in a 2L bottle.
Going to be feeding it with it until the 2L bottle of water+fert is finished. By then I'd hope the plant will be thriving in growth. Might make some CO2, to speed/strengthen the veg state. CO2ing it since, the lights are usually on.

Also, can someone help me out with the carbon filter. Going to be making one, soon or later. Is it outtake fan > vent out > carbon filter? Or Carbon filter > Out take fan > vent out?

Yesterday, I'd just gave the plant some yates nute. This will cover the nitrogen deficiency of the plant, if there is any. Going to be feeding it every 2 days until the 2L, bottle is finish. After that I'll post up the picture of the plant, showing you the growth of it.

This plant is being scrogg, can anyone tell me, if we are meant to bend the plant around the scrogg mesh? Or are we meant to just let the plant grow above the mesh net? Because i'd see that the plant like the lighting a lot and tries to reach to it by stretching out to the mesh net. All i'm doing is bending/pinching the plant under the mesh net tilll it grows around it. After the mesh net has been filled 50% atleast, i'll then let them grow above the mesh net.

The plant is thriving in growth thanks to the fertilizer.

Anyone who knows how to modify MH ballast into a HPS ballast, do we only need to buy the ignitor and plug it into the MH ballast to transform it into a HPS light?
Because I've a 400w HPS ballast, and want to get a 250w ballast. It's pretty expensive, and at the moment, i can find a cheap MH ballast running from $50-70. I was thinking of taking the ignitor from the HPS ballast, and switch it to the 250W MH ballast to become a 250w HPS. I'm thinking of changing the set up into a HPS light, when I begin flowering it.

So a 250w HPS, with 2x 130W CFL + XXX x 25W cfl with it.
I'd already have the 2 x 130W cfl inside. Was planning to use a 250w hps with 260w of cfl 6500k. Because if i want to flower with the CFL, i have to buy the 2700k kelvins, so whynot just use the same amount of money to just buy a 250w hps. Since 2x 130w 2700k probably ranges from 100 for both of them. While a 250w hps is only like $20-40.

It has been awhile, since I've posted up pics. The plant has grown bigger, as I've been LSTing it under the mesh net. The four main branches have just started to grow other branches out from the side of the nodes.
I'd guess that yellow powder was actually the fertilizer and it's doing great. Will post up the new picture, your going mostly see the new nodes popping out outta the mesh net, note that these are just small nodes that just starting to grow out of the nodes. Stated in the previous post, I've snapped the two main branches and now theirs four main branches, and these branches have been lst side ways.

Going to buy some yeast soon, planning to add some CO2 inside. Even though it isn't from the proper co2 tank, it will still do provide something for the plant. I heard by adding Co2, the plant can withstand higher temperature. So if I put even little bit of co2 in constantly, will it still help the plant? Because soon, i want to install a 250w hps inside, add an extra exhaust 4" fan, and adding a diy Co2 source. I'm hoping that by adding the CO2, it will still help the plant, even if it's just a minor factor to the plant.

Here's the new picture of the plants. The plant has grown much bushier, much, much more. Can't even find the main stem of the plant looking above it. You can see the new buds site in the picture. Those big branches on the sides are the main colas, and those little budsites growing out of the sides of them. Going to need more light, because i can see that there not enough light penetrating underneath the plant. Flowering is coming soon, but i need to know if i can put more 6500k lighting than 2700k.

Anyone know the ratio of 2700k and 6500k for flowering?
I'm planning to buy a 2700k light cfl or a 250w hps. But if im going cfl how much do i need for this plant. Was planning to get 1 or 2 250w 2700k cfl, if 1, i can also use the 2 other 6500k 130w light I've. Also i got spare 6500k 25w cfl around, however does the ratio of 2700k have to be more than the 6500k in ratio?
Can you still have like 300w of 6500k and 250w of 2700k in flowering?

The season now is currently winter, was planning to cut a clone and veg it and have it flowering outside.
I'd want to compare these plant from out and in. However, the clone going to be small and hopefully it'll start to bud after I leave it outside for a month or two.

today, im going to pop a passive intake hole, since i have a 250w hps with reflectors. Does anyone know if it is safe to have my cfls hook up bside the 250w hps, will the light melt the cfls bulbs? Imagine a reflector wit the hps bulb in the middle, im asking if whether i can screw the cfl beside the hps aswell.

also need a carbon filter, so making that soon. Can start to smell the plant, as i walk into my room.
Just having the cfls on with the fan circulating air inside and passive outake fan, it doesn't get hot in there, just warm. So when installing the passive intake i hope that will help out for the hps thats going in.

Hooked up everything, temperature is fine, however still need a passive fan to be installed. You guys see in the first picture, is that RF? as i get closers to take a picture. Digital ballast, growlush, doesn't seem to show any signs of that just near the bulb.

Maybe I should also use the 2X130WCFLs 6500k for a week aswell or should I start to flower now.

Going to be start 12/12 tomorrow. At the moment there no passive intake fan, but the heat is still kept low. I might need an extra fan inside circulating the heat away from the light bulb as when the plant grow taller, its going to get burnt without a second fan moving the heat away from them. So one intake fan and one circulating fan and the heat will be sweet, then i can add the cfls in while i'm at it. Also adding DIY CO2 and Carbon filter too. Apparently having CO2 will help the plant withstand more degrees of heat.

Since they're going to be set on to 12/12. Do we have to start feeding the plant more often? Will it start drinking water more.

Yep, they are going to need a bloom feed with more Phosphorus than Nitrogen. Just go easy on the amount because you don't want to burn the girls. I was wondering what type CFL setup were you using before you switched to the 250w HPS? Best of luck to you!!

at the beginning i was using 1 130w cfl. then after a week i went an added another 130w cfl. Also had a 24w on the side. Veg it for like 1.5-2 month. Why it's bushy is because I LST the plant and accidently snapped these two main branches and 4 grew out afterwards