cannot seem to identify plant problem

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moonstar45

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I can't seem to figure out what causes those line string looking damage, i've noticed my other plants have mite attacks based on the spotty white occurrences. they are all outdoor btw, rarely use nutes and just leave them alone there.

and is the last picture a female plant? just wanna make sure

and yes, i've tried planting weed at really horrible mediums (gravel and stone and they're still growing. lol)
 
vostok

vostok

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Thrips ...sneaky little buggers too ...pic 1 and 2 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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips


rozzers can lift you prints of them pics crop them?
 
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rob333

rob333

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vostok said:
Thrips ...sneaky little buggers too ...pic 1 and 2 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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips


rozzers can lift you prints of them pics crop them?
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yep im with u on that 1
 
vostok

vostok

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So tiny they burrow in and tunnel around see the lines on the top, often they don't like the taste ..so leap elsewhere, and cause a bubble or blister see above!!
 
vostok

vostok

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I stand corrected ...and thank you Diabolical,


..The pattern formed by the feeding tunnel is very often diagnostic for which kind of insect is responsible, sometimes even to genus level. The mine often contains frass, or droppings, and the pattern of frass deposition, mine shape and host plant identity are useful to determine the species of leaf miner. A few mining insects utilise other parts of a plant, such as the surface of a fruit....
http://www.leafmines.co.uk/

http://entomology.ifas.ufl.edu/creatures/veg/leaf/a_serpentine_leafminer.htm
 
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