cannatonic X, 1.2% THC 23% CBD

does anyone have experience with a strain as crazy as this? 1.2 thc and 23 cbd is not a misprint. i know there was the cbd project underway, but i thought that strains wouldnt be droping for a lil bit longer. My question is do these numbers mean you will gett the pain relief of cannabis without the high? i ask because sometimes patients who have never smoked or havnt smoked in years are put off by a feeling of paranoia. Any help is apreciated.
 
i though cbd could only really be effective as long as other cannabinoids were present in similar proportion?

Test of cannatonic
i wasn't sure if it would have medicinal properties without a high thc content, but from my rudementery understanding of canaboids its the THC that gives the phsycodelic effect and the CBD that counters those with a fealing of calm . i recently watched a documentery where a scientist gave a patient pure thc and she was paranoid and a lil schizo, as opposed to the calm euphoria she felt when smoking some good weed
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
i just read a review on it that said the thc level was around 6% and so was the cbd content.. it has a 1 / 1 thc to cbd ratio from all i've heard of it..
it's supposed to have a killer medicinal effect from the few reviews i've read on it, and even saw one smoke report, gj on it where the grower loved it..
 

stonedmetalhead1

Well-Known Member
i wasn't sure if it would have medicinal properties without a high thc content, but from my rudementery understanding of canaboids its the THC that gives the phsycodelic effect and the CBD that counters those with a fealing of calm . i recently watched a documentery where a scientist gave a patient pure thc and she was paranoid and a lil schizo, as opposed to the calm euphoria she felt when smoking some good weed
There are a limited amount of studies but what it is thought to be is that THC is the psychoactive chemical and other cannabinoids modify the effect of the THC. It's not cut and dry that high CDB or high THC content determines the quality of a strain but rather how their cannabinoids react together to produce a specific high that is seen in special plants.
 

Bad Karma

Well-Known Member
i just read a review on it that said the thc level was around 6% and so was the cbd content.. it has a 1 / 1 thc to cbd ratio from all i've heard of it..
it's supposed to have a killer medicinal effect from the few reviews i've read on it, and even saw one smoke report, gj on it where the grower loved it..
I believe what your referring to is the original Cannatonic, this thread is about Cannatonic X, part of the CBD intense breeding by Resin Seeds and Mr. Nice Seeds.
Cannatonic is no doubt one of the parents of this this CBD filled wild flower.
Here in NorCal we've seen a lot of Harlequin lately, which usually comes back from the lab at around 5% THC and 11% CBD.
 
i just read a review on it that said the thc level was around 6% and so was the cbd content.. it has a 1 / 1 thc to cbd ratio from all i've heard of it..
it's supposed to have a killer medicinal effect from the few reviews i've read on it, and even saw one smoke report, gj on it where the grower loved it..
heres a link to the lab that tested it http://www.micannalytics.com/results/sample.php?sampleid=110978&dispensary=77 the numbers are so weird i wonder if it was contaminated
 
if anyone who reads the link to the site can tell me the difference between THC+A and just plain 'ol THC, that would be awesome. also the difference between thc (activated) and thc (heat to activate). i've googled these terms and usually end up at sites pertaining to computer programming
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
if anyone who reads the link to the site can tell me the difference between THC+A and just plain 'ol THC, that would be awesome. also the difference between thc (activated) and thc (heat to activate). i've googled these terms and usually end up at sites pertaining to computer programming
THCA is tetrahydrocannabinolic acid, which is how most THC is present in fairly fresh cannabis andor hash. Heating will quickly cause the THCA molecule to extrude CO2, leaving THC. That is why smoking weed works, and why cooking with weed requires a hot step. If you ingest THCA, not much happens. cn
 
thanks cannabineer, i feel like an idiot not realizing that the A stood for acid, and now i get that only very low levels of thc is active without heat. thats why it takes longer for edibles to work because the act of digestion activates the thc as opossed to heating it with flame.
 

frmrboi

Well-Known Member
thats why it takes longer for edibles to work because the act of digestion activates the thc as opossed to heating it with flame.
this is incorect, it takes longer because it's a fat soluable chemical and takes a long time to digest, the thc is already activated by the cooking process.
Consuming edibles on an empty stomach and/or taking lecithin, an emulsifier willl speed up the reaction time and the intensity of the high but shorten the duration of it.
 
Bad Karma,
You speak of this strain "Harlequin" with a high level of CBD. Is this strain available? I have my legal med card in Michigan and am interested in producing a strain with a high CBD level and it's associated properties/effects. If you can help PM me please! TIA
 

Brick Top

New Member
Bad Karma,
You speak of this strain "Harlequin" with a high level of CBD. Is this strain available? I have my legal med card in Michigan and am interested in producing a strain with a high CBD level and it's associated properties/effects. If you can help PM me please! TIA

Google Project CBD and see if you can find out more.


Harlequin







"Harlequin is one phenotype of a plant bred to produce hashish," explains Wade Laughter. "The genes are 75% sativa and 25 % indica. The Sativas include an early-1970s Columbian Gold, a Thai from the mountains near Laos, and a Swiss native land race that was bred for consumption of cattle. The Indica is from Nepal's Mustang state. These are all high-elevation plants....Harlequin is available as a clone at dispensaries in the Bay Area that are participants in Project CBD, including Sparc and the Vapor Room. The smell and taste are sweet with an almost syrupy heaviness that is pleasant on the inhale and the exhale. she needs about 60 to 70 days indoors to finish her full flowering. She sets flowers fairly quickly compared to other strains. I see fingertip-sized bud set at two weeks of flower —compared to pencil-eraser size in other plants at the same two weeks of flower. She really needs some way to support the colas the last few weeks because the trichomes and flowering tops get so heavy. Along those same lines, in a drying room where strains like Blueberry or Bubba Kush take seven to 10 days for drying before curing, the Harlequin can take as long as three weeks. She can be completely obscured by 'sugar' to where she looks 'frosted.'"


Cannabinoids in Harlequin Leaf?
Earlier this year Wilson Linker, a sales executive at Steep Hill Lab, tested leaves taken from a Harlequin plant about five weeks after it was started indoors from a clone. "Still completely in veg," he says of the plant. Linker took leaves from different various parts of the plant, ground them up, and tested them by GC/MS. To his surprise, the leaf tested at approximately 4% CBD and 2% THC (see illustration)

Linker repeated the test and confirmed the results with another Harlequin clone started the same day. Key questions will be answered by more testing: Do all Harlequin plants produce cannabinoids in the vegetative state? Do other CBD-rich strains have this trait?

"The true benefit," says Linker, "would be that you could extract the CBD in mid-summer, not wait for buds before harvesting. There's obvious implications for making edibles and tinctures. Imagine not having to deal with a harvest!"






http://www.projectcbd.org/StrainNotes/Harlequin/Harlequin.html


Links to other strains can be found using the following link.

http://projectcbd.com/Availability.html#Marketing
 
Bad Karma,
You speak of this strain "Harlequin" with a high level of CBD. Is this strain available? I have my legal med card in Michigan and am interested in producing a strain with a high CBD level and it's associated properties/effects. If you can help PM me please! TIA
i dont know about harlequin, but canatonic x is for sure here in MI. i'm not sure if the dispenserie was a part of the closings that swept the state recently, but find them on the catalynics website
 

oHsiN666

Well-Known Member
WOW!!!! i HAVE to try this strain! i seriously think CBD's work better for me. i have a real chemical imbalance. when i was in high school i used to use meth, and it was NOT an upper for me. most of the time it was a downer. i wouldn't get all uppity and speedy. id get calm and relaxed. i think i was supposed to be on Ritalin as a child but my mom was against it. i have good reactions with high CBD levels. there has been some really good Mexi i used to get a few years ago that i swear had higher CBD levels in it then THC. sooooo sleepy, but stoned too. way different then a chronic stone. the good ol' days. i haven't seen really good Mexi in a few yeas.
 
I'm thinking a 1:1 ratio isn't that important. The importance of CBD stains is for making unheated oil or juicing it to ingest, to cure _____ (fill in the blank) and less about smoking it. Or for those that need low THC, often the same people that juice or take oil and have issues that THC irritates (spasms, anxiety, pain). Sometimes the high thc keeps some patients from taking as much medicine as they need. I am one of those patients, I am glad people are working on CBD strains. I have seen alot of vendors try CBD strains and give up on them, calling them junk due to low thc... please don't!

bump.. love to hear/see more about this cannatonic X
:D
Thanx!
 

edisonzmedicine

New Member
Google Project CBD and see if you can find out more.


Harlequin







"Harlequin is one phenotype of a plant bred to produce hashish," explains Wade Laughter. "The genes are 75% sativa and 25 % indica. The Sativas include an early-1970s Columbian Gold, a Thai from the mountains near Laos, and a Swiss native land race that was bred for consumption of cattle. The Indica is from Nepal's Mustang state. These are all high-elevation plants....Harlequin is available as a clone at dispensaries in the Bay Area that are participants in Project CBD, including Sparc and the Vapor Room. The smell and taste are sweet with an almost syrupy heaviness that is pleasant on the inhale and the exhale. she needs about 60 to 70 days indoors to finish her full flowering. She sets flowers fairly quickly compared to other strains. I see fingertip-sized bud set at two weeks of flower —compared to pencil-eraser size in other plants at the same two weeks of flower. She really needs some way to support the colas the last few weeks because the trichomes and flowering tops get so heavy. Along those same lines, in a drying room where strains like Blueberry or Bubba Kush take seven to 10 days for drying before curing, the Harlequin can take as long as three weeks. She can be completely obscured by 'sugar' to where she looks 'frosted.'"


Cannabinoids in Harlequin Leaf?
Earlier this year Wilson Linker, a sales executive at Steep Hill Lab, tested leaves taken from a Harlequin plant about five weeks after it was started indoors from a clone. "Still completely in veg," he says of the plant. Linker took leaves from different various parts of the plant, ground them up, and tested them by GC/MS. To his surprise, the leaf tested at approximately 4% CBD and 2% THC (see illustration)

Linker repeated the test and confirmed the results with another Harlequin clone started the same day. Key questions will be answered by more testing: Do all Harlequin plants produce cannabinoids in the vegetative state? Do other CBD-rich strains have this trait?

"The true benefit," says Linker, "would be that you could extract the CBD in mid-summer, not wait for buds before harvesting. There's obvious implications for making edibles and tinctures. Imagine not having to deal with a harvest!"






http://www.projectcbd.org/StrainNotes/Harlequin/Harlequin.html


Links to other strains can be found using the following link.

http://projectcbd.com/Availability.html#Marketing
Hello Brick Top,
I've read a lot of your posts and appreciate your knowledge. I'm also a southerner, trying to get to Cali to grow a few strains for my mother who has cancer. Looking at the Cruz area and the WAMM collective. The limits there are very liberal, and Val Corral of WAMM started the prop 215 movement. I hope to make mom a combo of high cbd and thc tinctures in an area where it's legal.

I've studied the science, benefits and other interesting things concerning cannabidiol, and I've had an epiphany/revelations concerning our beloved and sacred plant. I have some interesting philosophical views you might appreciate. I feel that I have a duty to the wise men among us, to share knowledge. I hope you will collect some of the gifts from God, the serendipitously discovered strains with the cb allele genetically intact. I fear that the health/lives of our fellows could someday depend upon men like yourself. Working and breeding strains rich in cbd will bless your life. If you ever wanna chat about current events, PM me sometime.
 
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