Cannabinoids in pregnancy

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yeti5508

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  • Disclaimer: If you are a pregnant and using or have history of success using during pregnancy I'm not arguing with you. What I'm trying to say is the damn government needs to get it's butt in gear and fix this we need REAL science done so we have substantiated facts and not merely anecdotes (and rightly or wrongly even if everyone agreed it doesn't matter until appropriate scientific tests are designed and repeated the govt. has us by the short hairs).​





ive said this to many friends the govt. waste money on everything except cannabis,


I would not lot my wife MEDICATE if there was ONE BIT OF SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE PROVING THAT CANNABIS IN PREGNANCY IS BAD,

VAC PURGE-150$ BUTANE FOR 1LB- anything you say is COMPLETE NONSENSE to me after seeing that...

FADEDOG- 1000 times thank you, Your one of the most intelligent people on this site, IM READING EVERY LINK IN THERE, THANK YOU SIR. thats also on skunkpharmresearch though right, granny storm crows list?

TO THE MOST OF AMERICANS your biased opinion from being brainwashed from america for the last 80 years, IS BIASED, is all i have to say NOT FACTUAL IN ANYWAY, marijuana WAS NEVER KNOWN AS ANYTHING HARMFUL until the 1900's

I personally know of 3 women who used marijuana to cure aliments during pregnancy ( recommended by doctor) and some of the smartest kids I know today..

And as for my child being taken away - america will never control the life of me nor anyone who decides against it, maybe if you live in butt fuck egypt ,but were in a medical state so under state laW and under ca physician and prenatal recommendations i see no laws broken there,,,, AND BTW WE WILL PROBABLY STOP IN ADVANCE TO AVOID DRAMA

FOR THE LOVE OF SIRIUS BEFORE I GET FLAMED ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD NOT TAKE THE RISK, SHOW ME ANY RISK, ANY AT ALL!
NOT A BIASED AMERICAN OPINION, AMERICA IS BARELY 200 YEARS OLD I THINK CANNABIS IS A BIT OLDER AND IM SURE WOMEN HAVE USED IT FOR AGES DURING PREGNANCY..

Remember she only dabs maybe 2 times in a day,and she throws up A MINIMUM OF 5 TIMES a day, she eats 6 times, how the hell is she supposed to hold ANY nutrients down, how is my child supposed to be fed?!?!?! When she medicates she vomits maybe 2-3 times in a day.
seems like the smart thing to do to me, especially when DOCTORS and SCIENTIST support it...

WITH BIASED STATEMENT LIKE THIS HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO TO TRUST, AMERICA BANNED MARIJUANA TO MAKE MONEY END OF STORY
Children of heavy pot users may also have problems with short-term memory, concentration, and judgment. (There's no evidence so far, however, that marijuana use during pregnancy causes attention deficit hyperactivity disorder).

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]One study even found that young children whose mothers smoked marijuana during pregnancy had a higher risk of LEUKEMIA than those whose mothers did not.[/FONT]

What's more, there's no way to know if the pot you're smoking has been laced with other drugs (such as PCP) or contaminated with pesticides, which would put your baby at even higher risk. And using marijuana increases the chance that your baby will have birth defects if you're also drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco.

WHAT THE FUCK LEUKEMIA?!?!?!

HERES TWO COMMENTS FROM THAT WEBSITE THE VERY FIRST TWO
OK I can only go by my own experience and the experience of some of my friends. I am not especially proud of myself for this, but I did continue to smoke weed during both of my pregnancies. More so with my first...I had friends who had smoked while pregnant and their babies came out perfect, so I did not think there was much of a risk. I did quit 3 weeks before the birth of my son, because I didn't want him to be born "stoned" if that makes any sense. He is 6 now and is probably the smartest kid in his class...reading and writing way above his level. He is also the star player on his soccer team. My daughter is also very smart and very mature for her age, 3. My children were both between 7 and 8 pounds and I had to be induced both times...no pre mature labor here. I did not smoke while breastfeeding my son and I did with my daughter and I did not have enough milk for her after 2 months, I had to supplement. I think it does keep from allowing adaquate milk production.
posted 10/18/2007 by a BabyCenter Member
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How disappointing. I am a toxicologist, and nothing saddens me more than patronizing "professionals" like Mr. Briggs who present unsubstantiated speculations as facts. It is far too easy in this society to scare women with such misinformation into conforming their lives in a way that matches a conservative (and in my opinion, religious) norm. A woman that wants a baby, wants a healthy baby. And that makes her vulnerable to scare tactics. My message to the Mr. Briggs of the world is to stop patronizing women and admit that it is HIGHLY likely given the generations of people born to women who smoked marijuana (or had a couple beers for pete's sake!) during pregnancy, that this is not a 'drug' worth demonizing. I would like Mr. Briggs to address why drugs such as Zoloft have been given the speedy green light for use in pregnancy when it has a much younger history of use in our society. Perhaps it's because the big drug companies are making billions off of it? It's easier to attack pot.
posted 10/25/2007 by a BabyCenter Member

http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-safe-to-smoke-marijuana-during-pregnancy_2490.bc


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growgirl925

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I think this poster asked a question ALOT of people may wonder about but are too scared to ask because of backlash. In the US marijuana has, over the last decade, begun to be recognized and respected as a natural type of medicine. It's ridiculously easy to obtain a medical marijuana card, and yes, I'm almost positive lots of people who obtain cards do so for recreational purposes (more power to them!), but I have stood in line at my local dispensary next to MS and cancer patients who are clearly not there for recreation. I honestly respect you for asking this question. we need more good information information about this. Morning sickness, nausea, backache, hormonal fluctuations, and a myriad of other bothersome symptoms occur in pregnancy. is it really that far off for someone to wonder if an herbal remedy like marijuana would work safely during this time? Also, in addition to the conservative smothering attitudes some people still,and always will have about marijuana, you have those who believe children are communal property. THEY INDEED ARE NOT! I Think his posts are muddled because he feels attacked and that he now has to defend himself. I don't blame him and his questions really aren't being answered. Since actual unbiased medical research information is hard to find, aside from simply saying, "Don't do it.", maybe we could share personal experiences. My child is brilliant and beautiful. He has been sick less times than I can count on one hand, he reads, spells and speaks better than most children two years older than him. He is going into advanced classes next year as well. No ill effects noticed here, in fact I could argue the opposite, but I won't, or else I'm sure I will be berated and you will be wading through my muddled posts. I wish for you and your wife the best of luck and a healthy bundle of joy!!!
 
Nay47

Nay47

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Shocking how many people are brainwashed into thinking that this natrually growing herb is more harmful then big pharma wtf breast milk is naturally high in cannabonioids them same cannaboniods that come from our endocannaboniod systems that play a huge role in our health why would our body naturally produce cannaboniods and then concentrate high dose in breast milk for our young if it were not healthy? eating cannabis will be the best thing she could do for her self and the unborn child
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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did you know that babies are coming up positive for THC because of the use of Johnson and Johnson baby soaps in hospitals and homes



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Several soaps used to wash newborn babies may cause the baby to test positive for marijuana on some screening tests, according to a new study.

Urine samples that had tiny amounts of any of five popular baby soaps -- Johnson's Head-To-Toe Baby Wash, J&J Bedtime Bath, CVS Night-Time Baby Bath, Aveeno Soothing Relief Creamy Wash and Aveeno Wash Shampoo -- gave a positive result on a drug screening test for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the principal psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, reports Rachel Rettner at MSNBC.


The researchers began investigating after nurses at one North Carolina hospital reported a big increase in the number of newborns testing positive for marijuana. The amount of soap in the urine needed to produce a false positive test result was tiny, less than 0.1 milliliters, according to the researchers.




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This is a big deal, because screening tests that show a baby has been exposed to marijuana can, and often do, lead to the involvement of social services and even law enforcement due to accusations of child abuse. In one Alabama case last year, for example, a mother was arrested and criminally charged with "chemically endangering" her child when her baby boy tested positive for marijuana.


This, despite the fact that the body's own cannabinoids -- chemically almost identical to the active ingredients of cannabis -- are naturally present in mother's milk, and are crucial for the baby's development. In addition, according to the best scientific research, marijuana use by pregnant women may actually reduce infant mortality. Also, the babies of pot-smoking mothers scored better on tests of cognition than babies of non-toking mothers, besides.


But meanwhile, back to the false marijuana positives caused by soap on babies. Given the consequences, healthcare providers and laboratory staffs should be made aware that these soaps -- and possibly others -- can lead to a positive rest for cannabis. For that reason, positive tests should ideally be confirmed by a more sensitive method, the researchers said.



"We really did this to help protect families from being falsely accused" of marijuana use, and to help ensure that "intervention" efforts are directed at babies who are actually at risk of drug exposure, said study researcher Dr. Carl Seashore, who's a pediatrician in the newborn nursery at the University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill.



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Drug screening tests in hospitals that come back positive are usually not sent out to labs for additional confirmation, because of the time and expense, said study researcher Catherine Hammett-Stabler, also of UNC Chapel Hill.


It's become more and more common to screen newborns for marijuana exposure, and is considered "especially recommended" for babies born to women thought to be "high risk" for "drug use," such as those who don't come in for prenatal care visits, according to Hammett-Stabler. About 10 to 40 percent of babies born at UNC Chapel Hill hospital receive the test each month, according to Seashore.


The researchers said they aren't sure why the soaps would cause positive marijuana tests. It could be that some compounds in the soap are chemically similar to THC (this doesn't mean you need to go smoking soap), or it could be that the chemicals in the soap change the way the test works, according to Hammett-Stabler.


When a more sensitive test was used on the urine samples containing the soap, the test came back negative, Hammett-Stabler said.


UNC Chapel Hill, at least, has changed its policy based on its own findings. All positive newborn drug urine tests from the hospital are now sent out for confirmation before any action is taken.


The study was published in the June issue of Clinical Biochemistry.
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The Daily Caller
Women in many states have gotten in deep legal trouble -- including losing custody of their kids -- after showing up positive for marijuana on hospital drug tests. But the most commonly used methods for detecting cannabis exposure are unreliable when used on infants, and "should not be reported" without more tests and followup by hospital staff and social workers, according to a new study recently published in the journal Clinical Chemistry.
While infant drug tests are commonly used across the United States, it's often done only in cases where the mother has some history of substance use, reports Stephen C. Webster at The Raw Story. Positive results for marijuana on the immunoassay drug test are often followed by a more targeted THC test to confirm the results.


But scientists with the University of Utah found that even the more targeted THC assay tests -- the ones used for confirming results -- show a "significantly higher" rate of false-positive results with infants.


Research published earlier this year found that many different soaps and household products, including baby shampoo, can cause false positives in immunoassay tests. This follow-up study tried to determine what's behind the higher rates of false positives for infants.


The study doesn't even touch the subject of whether non-pot-smoking parents have unjustly lost custody of their babies due to false positive drug test results. But it does greatly damage the view that THC assay testing is a reliable method of detecting cannabis use.


According to the researchers, infant urine analysis results that show positive for marijuana "should not be reported without confirmation [from an alternate specimen] or appropriate consultation, because they cannot currently be interpreted."


"Positive THC screening results may thus reflect compounds other than cannabinoids that are present in the urine of infants at high risk of drug exposure, or they may reflect environmental or socioeconomic factors associated with their high-risk situations," the researchers speculated.


The scientists who found the original flaw in immunoassay testing said two compounds in particular were responsible for causing false positives: polyquaternium 11 and cocamidropropyl betaine, which, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human SErvices, are in hundreds of household products like Windex, Lime-A-Way, Axe shower gel, Clairol hair coloring, Dial foaming hand soap, Crest toothpaste, a number of baby shampoos and others.


They discovered that less than 0.1 milliliter of these substances in a urine sample could contaminate the results, causing a false positive.


The University of Utah scientists originally wanted to determine why infant drug testing had false positives more often. But it turns out they couldn't explain the difference.


They just called the issue "unresolved" and said more study was needed to explain the false positives, leaving innocent parents in the lurch in the meantime. The researchers also speculated that infants might metabolize THC differently than adults due to underdeveloped liver enzymes.


"It would be helpful if future studies identified THC metabolites with prospectively collected infant urine samples matched for hospital location, used the same sample-collection protocols, and stratified the infants according to the risk of drug exposure," the scientists wrote.
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george xxx

george xxx

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You really think consuming cannabinoids by a pregnant woman is a good idea? Frankly I don't think we know enough yet. That is what angers me.
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I would generally agree that we do not know enough about cannabis use. What we should all know is that there is no such thing as reliable information from the medical community or our government. What should really anger you is knowingly and intentionally being misled by the government and our health care system.
 
smink13

smink13

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Looking for an update from the original poster. Have been researching and would like to know more from people that have been down this road. Thanks
 
Kush&Love

Kush&Love

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Check out an article written by a (nurse?) who was sent to Jamaica to do a study on the effects of marijuana on babies. Her studies over several years show that marijuana passed in the breast milk is what kept the babies living in slum like conditions alive, where most babies in similar conditions around the world would perish from malnutrition etc, because the marijuana passed through the milk basically made them eat and nurse more, on older children there were no I'll effects. She had to publish her own book as the government sent her down there and refused to publish her findings they were not showing what the government had hoped to find. I had severe vomiting in all of my pregnancies. Marijuana is the only thing that allowed me to eat. My doc tried with my third to prescribe me zofran they give to cancer patients, I declined, and glad I did as many babies are turning up with birth defects as a result. All three of my children have no asthma or breathing problems, never any health issues or allergies, and all hit and or surpassed their developmental milestones. It may be anecdotal but it is what it is.


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hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Retired RN here. I have a few years of experience. If pot caused birth defects all the old hippies kids would be total dumbasses and on state and federal aid full time. Not recommending it but . . . . ..
 
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