Can you get decent results in 2 gallon containers?
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Hollatchaboy
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tstick
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Well I would consider changing the medium IF I was going to continue to use the bags....BUT....I just checked the root ball in my 2-gallon plastic garden pot (one of the males) and the roots are very healthy. I would say they look healthier than the roots did when I was using the same medium in the bags. Sooooo.. for me, I think the old school plastic pots works best.Maybe you need to reconsider what medium you're using
This is a 2 gallon plastic pot with ProMix HP, feed is AN, light is 600w MH/HPS, Early Miss Auto. Yield was 13.2 oz.
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harris hawk
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Yes it all comes down to Genetics
tstick
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I would say that I agree that, without good genetics, there's no way to grow good weed. However, I think that, once that's established, then it becomes a matter of which growing technique/medium is going to work for a given grower/environment. Some people can get much better results in grow bags than what I can get, regardless of the genetics.
harris hawk
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I agree well put !!!!
emepher
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I don't know about soil but the advice here looks good - bigger pots for soil. I've grown some nice plants in 2 gallon bags though, using Pro-Mix, coco/perlite, and straight perlite. Did a SoG once in 2l bottles and was pleasantly surprised with the yield. And I pulled a pound off of a plant once (Greenpoint Seeds Tomahawk, GG4 x Stardawg) that was in a 2 gallon fabric pot, perlite with automated top-drip. It was allowed to veg extra long because it was the only female in a run of 6 plants from seed. So you can definitely be happy with 2 gallon pots but maybe not with soil.
Modern Selections
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The smallest pot I will use for flower is a 3 gal. That is for a rooted clones straight to flower or a week veg.
Roots equal fruits so go with the biggest container you can for soil.
With your drying out issue I think you are not giving the plant enough water. Or the soil has became too hydrophobic. This happens, especially with mixes containing peat, when you water around the plant but not all the way to the sides (as some growers do with young plants). The peat will compact and actually repel water. You can break it up and aerate by sticking a bamboo stake or a knife down in the soil allowing water to access deeper into the rootball.
I definitely like plastic pots vs bags. The bags do tend to dry out the sides faster. You want to water the pot until the water floods the top of the pot. This will push old air out of the rootzone as it moves it's way down the pot and suck new fresh air into the rootzone.
Water until there is some runoff. Doing this each time will solve the problem of some of the soil becoming hydrophobic.
Roots equal fruits so go with the biggest container you can for soil.
With your drying out issue I think you are not giving the plant enough water. Or the soil has became too hydrophobic. This happens, especially with mixes containing peat, when you water around the plant but not all the way to the sides (as some growers do with young plants). The peat will compact and actually repel water. You can break it up and aerate by sticking a bamboo stake or a knife down in the soil allowing water to access deeper into the rootball.
I definitely like plastic pots vs bags. The bags do tend to dry out the sides faster. You want to water the pot until the water floods the top of the pot. This will push old air out of the rootzone as it moves it's way down the pot and suck new fresh air into the rootzone.
Water until there is some runoff. Doing this each time will solve the problem of some of the soil becoming hydrophobic.
Er3
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I use 2 gal pots in a 3x3 with no issues
Er3
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I threw mine out too, my shit never needed adjustment after gh trio
Modern Selections
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Right, you can grow out of a crack in the sidewalk but is it optimal? No
The bigger the pot the bigger the yield. If you are yielding well in two gallons imagine what 5 gallons will do..
Also if you are having decent results not adjusting pH, imagine the results you would have adjusting the pH..it is well well worth it to dial the grow.
The bigger the pot the bigger the yield. If you are yielding well in two gallons imagine what 5 gallons will do..
Also if you are having decent results not adjusting pH, imagine the results you would have adjusting the pH..it is well well worth it to dial the grow.
driver77
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A disagree with pot size determining size of plant to a degree.....and most others on this thread have too. Now a solo cup is not going to produce a 3# plant...but once over the 2gal mark I would say it doesn't matter.
If I have no ph issues how is checking it going to make my grow better?
Modern Selections
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Oh it certainly does matter what the pot size is. We shall have to agree to disagree on that one.
It is impossible to say you don't have a pH issue. Plants can't talk. The best thing we can do is provide the very best for them and that means in every aspect of growing. Environment, water, light, media and nutrients. Maintaining proper pH will give you healthy plants that will produce the best and most cannabis the genetics will allow.
Waiting to see issues show in the leaves is too late, it is time lost and will affect end results. Staying ahead of the plant's needs is the best way to have a trouble free grow and yield the very best flowers.
Again I strive for the best weed in the world. I'm just giving advice to those like minded folks who want the best. If you are happy with your results good on you but there is no need to tell others not to try to optimize their grows for the best results.
It is impossible to say you don't have a pH issue. Plants can't talk. The best thing we can do is provide the very best for them and that means in every aspect of growing. Environment, water, light, media and nutrients. Maintaining proper pH will give you healthy plants that will produce the best and most cannabis the genetics will allow.
Waiting to see issues show in the leaves is too late, it is time lost and will affect end results. Staying ahead of the plant's needs is the best way to have a trouble free grow and yield the very best flowers.
Again I strive for the best weed in the world. I'm just giving advice to those like minded folks who want the best. If you are happy with your results good on you but there is no need to tell others not to try to optimize their grows for the best results.
Modern Selections
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Agreed and then it is too late, time has been lost, end product suffers.
What I was saying your plants can't holler hey! I'm about to use extra mag and it's not available, my ph is a few points off but my grower human doesn't know so I'll sit here and sulk.
Each setback affects the final product. Eliminate setbacks makes for better finished product. Ask any seasoned growers and they will have an IPM and the environment, nutrients and pH dialed to a T.
... And the ph'ing takes an extra what? 2 minutes max?
What I was saying your plants can't holler hey! I'm about to use extra mag and it's not available, my ph is a few points off but my grower human doesn't know so I'll sit here and sulk.
Each setback affects the final product. Eliminate setbacks makes for better finished product. Ask any seasoned growers and they will have an IPM and the environment, nutrients and pH dialed to a T.
... And the ph'ing takes an extra what? 2 minutes max?
driver77
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I grow in organic soil and use humic acid to buffer my soil ph....on the occasions that I did check it in the past it was dead nuts on. So I don't bother anymore......how is that bad advice??Thats one of the percs of growing in soil.....if done right the ph stuff will not be an issue.
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Billy the Mountain
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I've actually tinkered with pot size the past few years. Growing in coco, with a ~35 day veg cycle, I've noticed no difference between growing in 1 gal, 2 gal, 3 gal, or even 5 gal. The main difference is the fertigation frequency. I'm currently running "2 gal" (1.5 gal in reality) pots and use 5 irrigation cycles.
Last four grows using a 3 gal, a 1 gal, two 2 gallon runs, my final yields were all within 10%. I wasn't using clones, so there's that, but it's clear that pot size is an insignificant factor for cannabis with a typical hydro growing cycle duration. If one were to veg the plant for a few months, the results may be different.
Current grow in 2gal pots at 55 days since flip:
thumper60
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Been growing almost 40 yrs I have never owned a ph pen I have used swamp water, river water, well water, rain water never phed anything in my life. Heres some swamp grown mega crop an nasty swamp watr.
