Call it........hydro exp gone mad .....imput wellcome.Autoflowering strain gone nutz

OK thanks guys she is flowering

now ...........should i keep her on a 12 to 12 time since unsure about the true autofloweringness of this strain or should i move her to a 20/4 like i do with my other autoflowering.......maybe a 18/6

and do u think it is smart to use alittle of fox farms beasit bloom or should i just keep mixing up 1 gallon of the feed each day and add it to the water to replace the missing water



update the plant is kissing the cooltube / turning and all this no longer a choice ...................should i just let it go and take the damage part off when i clip or should i top her below the light about 12 inch off the top

pic of the top .............and one of the trunk holy shit it is bigger then a pill bottle and up 3 nodes now

Autos flower based on age not light cycle, more light = more growth! at least that's the common thought in the Auto Forum.
20/4 or 24/0 !

You have lowered the N in the diet and raised the P and K, right?
If I had no room I would top every couple days till the plant finished rather than stress the plant with burns.

justugh said:

OK thanks guys she is flowering

now ...........should i keep her on a 12 to 12 time since unsure about the true autofloweringness of this strain or should i move her to a 20/4 like i do with my other autoflowering.......maybe a 18/6

and do u think it is smart to use alittle of fox farms beasit bloom or should i just keep mixing up 1 gallon of the feed each day and add it to the water to replace the missing water



update the plant is kissing the cooltube / turning and all this no longer a choice ...................should i just let it go and take the damage part off when i clip or should i top her below the light about 12 inch off the top

pic of the top .............and one of the trunk holy shit it is bigger then a pill bottle and up 3 nodes now
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That is an Awesome looking Plant!,
forgot that!

day 55

u guys helped so i am keeping it going untill she ends


1 should i trim up the lower parts and thin her out inside

2 the main stalk has taken some light damage do to the fact it is to fucking big should i remove this to adviod stressing and possible hermi

3 ..........i tried a pinch for supper cropping on a stalk the mass on the stalk was increased with in 3 days to have a knot .......should i do this to the rest

4 with a plant this massive i am replacing a gallon of water a day to the system been adding one gallon of feed to water ..........does someone have a better thought or plan to fallow

5 should i think about using a desolvable feed like beastie bloom ........or should i increase the flowering from the GH flora product line to what lvl
current at 5 ml grow 10 ml micro and 15 ml bloom per gallon


pics

bump ...........anyone

advice is welcomed

Personally I'd top her away from the cooltube since you said bending is no longer an option, and I would keep her on 12-12. I have a friend that got me into this stuff and he does some breeding with autoflowers and sativas. He told me that sometimes trying to force the auto flowering gene into a photoperiod results in a progeny that is confused about its flowering preferences, which sometimes results in hermaphrodites. I'd play it safe and 12-12 her, no telling how long barney worked this line (not discrediting their work at all!) and even if they did work it well there's always a chance you just got a more photoperiod learning progeny.

no idea on feed
it looks happy so i wouldnt change it much
the lower stuff not getting light you could cut it off
or just harvest the parts that finish and leave the rest to finish up
its up to you brother


BTW merry xmas buddy

I, and probably most others with larger plants, have the same problem of water replacement in 5 gallon buckets. Since I have some 10 gallon tubs laying around I started thinking about cutting a circle on a lid that would fit the net pot. The 10 gallon tub has a lower height than a 5 gallon bucket too. Maybe that would help with both height and rez refills?

I'm sure you already know this but many of the larger tubs are super cheap at many discount stores. I saw some some 28-32 gallon ones at a local store for about 10.00.

Not sure on how the profile of the net pot works out inside and how much solution one can actually hold as the tubs are wider rather than taller. Might be an option?

ehh man, that is a bind for sure. At that size it's probably gonna go 80-90 days at least, I would keep the light at 24/0 or 20/4 and let it try to finish asap. Cutting the lower branches might help, but my guess would be not by much unless you bush hog the fucker, those lower branches don't look like they are getting enough light to detract from the upper nodes significantly.

I'm just talking though, I haven't had to deal with that situation yet. I'm growing my first large plants on my current grow I'll be keen to see what happens for ya, thought I had my hands full with a 2 footer in veg but I feel for ya.

that certainly is a mammoth lol

Any update justugh? That's a bad ass plant. Want to see more pics!

Kontraband said:

Any update justugh? That's a bad ass plant. Want to see more pics!

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u asked i got

the center cola was shot the light damage and it touching and still growing ........i chopped off about 10 inches (did not help all that much)

did some lower trimming i am seeing leaves droop so i am taken them out ..removed several small lower branchs might remove the 2 lowest due the low light tho they are not droopy like he others

i did a check on the stem when i was trimming the part in the back (i have a small 3 legged table in there with the airpump) it had broken out of the med bottle i used to prop up the leaves at the start

i removed the wings to the cooltube ............weight in i can up the bulb to a 1000w (currently 600) should i
i alter the time to a 18/6 ......atempt to finish sooner (this plant is my whole cash crop for next month now)
alter the feed to a 10ml micro 20ml bloom combined with some stackers i am messing with .......showed first signs of burn and i am seeing some red vein on the upper fan leaves but none on any of the lower leaves or branchings..............even has some new budsites forming inside becuase the top cola is gone so more light enters

if i read it right ppm is 1530.........i am giving almost 2 gallons of water day now ph has been needing adjustment each water lvling ......lvling it up from to about 5.2 5.5

Thing is looking awesome! That stalk is crazy for an autoflower, well hell, the entire plant is.

I'm very close to ordering some beans of that strain but thinking about the size. I have a bit more room than you but I don't know man... might be too much. I'm going to think about it a bit more.

Thanks a bunch for the update, looking awesome!
Take care

Kontraband said:

Thing is looking awesome! That stalk is crazy for an autoflower, well hell, the entire plant is.

I'm very close to ordering some beans of that strain but thinking about the size. I have a bit more room than you but I don't know man... might be too much. I'm going to think about it a bit more.

Thanks a bunch for the update, looking awesome!
Take care

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u can do this with almost any auto ............i figured it out it is not all of what they tell u .........u just need grow and micro and bloom .............everything else is up to u and if u can figure out the right combo the plant does this

the starting of it is simple i did it with the flora rdwc plan for 5 weeks ..........then altered it beacuase it will just keep growing with that much feed and now the flowering i am trying to dail in the root zone (the better the roots the better the buds and the more there are)

at this point i am so far off any plan i been wing it with several different product lines .............when this all ends i will list the ones i used and the results ......i have a very good one for roots and growth ..........parts are orgainc parts are chemical


this strain was a small on in soil i got 2 oz off it ..............this anyone can do it ...............this was my very first DWC i was all soil

justugh said:

u can do this with almost any auto ............i figured it out it is not all of what they tell u .........u just need grow and micro and bloom .............everything else is up to u and if u can figure out the right combo the plant does this

the starting of it is simple i did it with the flora rdwc plan for 5 weeks ..........then altered it beacuase it will just keep growing with that much feed and now the flowering i am trying to dail in the root zone (the better the roots the better the buds and the more there are)

at this point i am so far off any plan i been wing it with several different product lines .............when this all ends i will list the ones i used and the results ......i have a very good one for roots and growth ..........parts are orgainc parts are chemical


this strain was a small on in soil i got 2 oz off it ..............this anyone can do it ...............this was my very first DWC i was all soil

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Yeah, gotta be the nutes the environment you setup. I've got a Nordika auto now in DWC, it's getting to a decent size but it will not finish near as large as yours.
https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/764301-nordika-week-6-a.html (fairly recent pics down in the thread)

I'm only using a 250 watter but it was this was suppose to be a decent yielder. I think you're right though, the right nute combo and schedule that is agreeable with the strain. My next run I'm going use the 400 and 250 on one plant to see how it does. Right now I've got a bunch of mixed things going, in soil, hydro in different rooms.

Thanks again for the updates and will be interesting to get the final details in when your done.

OK she is flowering like mad has sites and smells going every where
i removed those 2 lower branches i was talking about removing and able to tap on those drooping leaves make them fall off
i am seeing some red stems inside and now on the other section



here is where i am at with the amount of upper leaves in there what do u think i should run my ppm at
3260 ppm right now and some signs of burn .............tomarrow when i add water i will check the lvls (alot of them are from the stackers )

1 should i add in some grow say 10 mls total
2 should i increase the light from a 600 to a 1000w get some more depth into the plant (if i do go 1000 w should i use a dual arc bulb or stick with the HPS)
3 should i mess with the ph and try lowing little for more aborbtion rate on some of those lesser goodies (not NPK)

i wouldnt mess with the ph to much seeing how if something goes wrong its not just a loss its a really big loss if its going and showing minimum burn then i would let it ride where you have it thats just
my opinion though

your the guy that has done hydro ..............go back in about hour check make sure it is at 5.8 or 5.9


have u messed with Advanced Nutrients line of products .....voodoo juice/piranha

the piranha looks to be a good choice with increased 02 aborbtion

no hadnt messed with AN ive used technaflora
and general hydroponics i think is the brand that makes floranova had luck with both of them but moved away from hydro a few years back and started with coco or soil or a blend of the two that i use now its a bit more forgiving if you cant tend to them daily

for those who are fallowing

i tested my ppm about 26 hours since the last time .................i added a gallon of water to the system (lvled it out) ppm is 2340

yeasterday it was 3260.......now 2340 .......my ppm tester is a TDS tester
it been 8 days since i replace the water .............i am going to give it today to lower the ppm more(i am cheap not throwing out good food) then i will change the water out and post (what the ppm is and the combo of stackers and feed ratios)

i will post pics tomarrow or day after i am getting a new tablet so the pic should be better...............it is funny the bush is doing a bowl shape becuase of the cooltube with no wings